WikiLeaks proposes tracking verified Twitter users' homes, families and finances - Polidicks

Apparently the tweet was deleted.

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51634473]Has this caused any incidents? Was this setup with the public's knowledge? Who advocates/opposes it?[/QUOTE] Haven't heard of any incidents, but I think it's quite likely that some people have used it with malicious intentions. It was criticized by a government agency that deals with data, [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Data_Protection_Authority[/url] Although the information has always been publicly available, you just had to call the tax office(I think) and ask. So what the company did was making it much easier to look the info up. Example, here's our prime minister. [url]https://www.ratsit.se/19570721-Kjell_Stefan_Lofven_Stockholm/DJlijzCwc2rL5TH9uKJvXln9B7bhIxHxGrpBWC3JrwU[/url]

[QUOTE=Swebonny;51634512]Haven't heard of any incidents, but I think it's quite likely that some people have used it with malicious intentions. It was criticized by a government agency that deals with data, [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Data_Protection_Authority[/url] Although the information has always been publicly available, you just had to call the tax office(I think) and ask. So what the company did was making it much easier to look the info up. Example, here's our prime minister. [url]https://www.ratsit.se/19570721-Kjell_Stefan_Lofven_Stockholm/DJlijzCwc2rL5TH9uKJvXln9B7bhIxHxGrpBWC3JrwU[/url][/QUOTE] What's your take on it?

Wikileaks can kindly fuck off after seeing this and the shit they pulled during the election.

[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51634476]Dude you totally don't get it. First of all, a surprising amount of family relations, financial details, and housing information IS publicly available. Please look into this more. It's surprising how much stuff people put on facebook, or what you can dig up through publicly available government records if you have somebody's name. Secondly, I purposely hide my personal identity as best as I can so that information doesn't get out. I don't want people knowing my identity so I attempt to hide it. Other than my personal facebook, I try to use screen names and different email addresses for my various online activities when I want to stay anonymous. My point is that it is on YOU to stay anonymous. If you use the same email address on Facepunch that you use on your personal Facebook, it's your own fault if somebody puts 2 and 2 together. That isn't illegal, and it shouldn't be illegal. Is it unethical to do? Yeah, sure. But not illegal.[/QUOTE] You know, I agree I didn't think I would, but I think you're right on the money here

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51634539]You know, I agree I didn't think I would, but I think you're right on the money here[/QUOTE] I knew one day we would find common ground somewhere.

They're probably not doing anything illegal but honestly they can fuck right off with this shit. That's my opinion on the matter.

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51634495]Apparently the tweet was deleted.[/QUOTE] Here is an [url=https://archive.is/LFeG3]archive of the tweet[/url].

[QUOTE=froztshock;51634564]They're probably not doing anything illegal but honestly they can fuck right off with this shit. That's my opinion on the matter.[/QUOTE] This is probably what I wanted to say but I kind of fucked it up. It might be public information (though it somewhat sounded like that wasn't just public info they were talking about) but it's quite sinister to target specific individuals and gather all that information in one place.

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51634520]What's your take on it?[/QUOTE] I'm not sure how I feel to be honest. In a way I think it's a good thing, it gives a feeling of transparency. You can't hide just because you're rich or some politician. It's not targeting specific individuals either, everyone are included. At the same time the information can be abused. In fact when thinking about it, sometimes our media post lists of the people that has made the most money in every municipality in Sweden. Not sure what that is supposed to achieve. We also have a service called "LexBase" which allows you to lookup an individual to see if they've committed crimes before.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;51634646] We also have a service called "LexBase" which allows you to lookup an individual to see if they've committed crimes before.[/QUOTE] I don't see much issue with this specifically though, it's like those sex offender lists that get published here in the US, better to know if there's convicted (ex)predators living near me than not.

[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;51634665]I don't see much issue with this specifically though, it's like those sex offender lists that get published here in the US, better to know if there's convicted (ex)predators living near me than not.[/QUOTE] It's quite interesting, there was a huge controversy around it. Much much bigger than the one providing public/financial data. Even got an English Wiki page that details what happened: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexbase[/URL]

That's really interesting. I guess yeah I can see a potential for misuse because it could lead to someone being wrongly profiled or stereotyped because of a criminal history if they had actually changed for the better post-conviction. But to be fair I think that there's a reasonable place between profiling someone wrongly for their past convictions and being completely in the dark to the whole thing. A reasonable cautionary middle ground. Arguably I'd think that if it were more curtailed to a specific caliber of crime it'd be more reasonable to see less issue with it as well.

This is some crazy shit, sounds like a horrible way to enable stalking, swatting and all other kinds of horrible stuff that would happen to people if their information was accessible to the public easily. Not to mention bullying, imagine if your bully could google you to find out how little your parents earn, if they have some sort of medical problem they can poke fun at.

so they're hypocrites, i was right to be skeptical of them.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51634191]so I have a right to know your finances? Okay, so post them[/QUOTE] Depends. If someone works in the public sector than their finances are already public information.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;51635449]Depends. If someone works in the public sector than their finances are already public information.[/QUOTE] All verified users on twitter aren't public sector workers though.

this is pretty stupid but i dont know what makes people think this move is politically/financially motivated or "evil" in the slightest whats that quote about calling something evil that can just be attributed to stupidity

Did Snowden comment this idea? I'm pretty sure he wouldn't support it.

[QUOTE=srobins;51634481]release him from his illegal detention. [/QUOTE] People are still trying to redefine 'hiding out as a fugitive from rape charges' as 'illegal detention'? Regardless of whether you feel the charges are legitimate or not, he is fundamentally in an embassy of his own free will, he's not being detained. Any time people describe his living conditions like Gitmo, it has to be pointed out that he is free to leave and face the charges at any time, and if the charges actually are baseless I really don't believe he'd be convicted in a Swedish court.

[QUOTE=catbarf;51636795]People are still trying to redefine 'hiding out as a fugitive from rape charges' as 'illegal detention'? Regardless of whether you feel the charges are legitimate or not, he is fundamentally in an embassy of his own free will, he's not being detained. Any time people describe his living conditions like Gitmo, it has to be pointed out that he is free to leave and face the charges at any time, and if the charges actually are baseless I really don't believe he'd be convicted in a Swedish court.[/QUOTE] "People", as in the United Nations and anyone with some sense. Your personal sense of trust for the Swedish court system doesn't change the fact that the rape charges are a farce and logically only exist to punish him for whistleblowing.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51634340]Public info, keyword, public info. Posting private info(your cell/phone records, tax returns etc) is violating your privacy and is infact illegal. We're talkin bout public info. According to them [video]https://twitter.com/WLTaskForce/status/817497571534872576[/video] That's what they want to do with verified twitter users. Why they wanna do that I dunno(and honestly is fucking retarded) but it's not illegal or violating privacy laws to post someones [B]public[/B] info Like I have on Facebook? Weird, Zuckerberg must be invading my privacy!!![/QUOTE] So when are you going to post your finances?

[QUOTE=srobins;51637234]"People", as in the United Nations and anyone with some sense. Your personal sense of trust for the Swedish court system doesn't change the fact that the rape charges are a farce and logically only exist to punish him for whistleblowing.[/QUOTE] I thought it was just a front to get him back to a country where they can slap him with treason?

[QUOTE=nAXiom090;51635435]so they're hypocrites, i was right to be skeptical of them.[/QUOTE] Not necessarily. Assange has always been pretty hardcore about making information freely available as far as I know, so this isn't really that out there for them. It doesn't really compromise their trustworthiness as far as the information they release goes, but they aren't a group I agree that much with in terms of politics. Those are separate issues in this case though. [editline]8th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=RockyTV;51635816]Did Snowden comment this idea? I'm pretty sure he wouldn't support it.[/QUOTE] He hasn't tweeted since Friday, but considering the latest tweet on his timeline is [URL="https://tweetsave.com/hoofnagle/status/817363020422619136"][media]https://twitter.com/hoofnagle/status/817363020422619136[/media][/URL][URL="http://archive.is/v3dGR"],[/URL] I'm inclined to agree with you.