Another Dinosaur's color Revealed - Polidicks

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20946207]Makes little sense from an evolutionary standpoint. Unless all the plants were black.[/QUOTE] Well it may have been a volcano dweller, the warmth from the soil would be a natural incubator.

Yeah but plants don't grow besides active volcanoes, at least not ones that last for long. Without the plants you can't have a food chain, so why bother being black, shouldn't you at least match the color of the plants?

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20946310]Yeah but plants don't grow besides active volcanoes, at least not ones that last for long. Without the plants you can't have a food chain, so why bother being black, shouldn't you at least match the color of the plants?[/QUOTE] Actually there were some plants across the volcanic plains during the Cretaceous period.

Fuck yes bird dinos.

[quote=janus vesta;20939028]you're a bit obsessed with dinosaurs, aren't you?[/quote] DinQ

You seriously need to consider a career in this stuff.

Did I miss anything?

ohhhhh dear

I kinda wish these things were still around so I can get a couple to fight each other

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20946207]Makes little sense from an evolutionary standpoint. Unless all the plants were black.[/QUOTE] If it didn't make sense from an evolutionary standpoint, it wouldn't have evolved that way.

[QUOTE=TH89;20949014]If it didn't make sense from an evolutionary standpoint, it wouldn't have evolved that way.[/QUOTE] I was saying maybe the artists are wrong. They are dealing with million year old samples.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20949230]I was saying maybe the artists are wrong. They are dealing with million year old samples.[/QUOTE] They've been dealing with it themselves for decades, hundreds of scientists went over the results, and you say their [i]wrong[/i]?

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;20949317]They've been dealing with it themselves for decades, hundreds of scientists went over the results, and you say their [I]wrong[/I]?[/QUOTE] You should take everything with a grain of salt. Just because 1 pigment is there now, doesn't mean additional pigments weren't there before, that have long since disappeared. We're talking millions of years here.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20949339]You should take everything with a grain of salt. Just because 1 pigment is there now, doesn't mean additional pigments weren't there before, that have long since disappeared. We're talking millions of years here.[/QUOTE] We'll be sure to give your intuition the consideration it deserves. :smug:

[QUOTE=TH89;20949366]We'll be sure to give your intuition the consideration it deserves.[/QUOTE] Lol k thanks. :love: Everything a scientist says must be true right?

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20949387]Everything a scientist says must be true right?[/QUOTE] No, but if it's down to a shitload of scientists versus you, the odds are pretty stacked [editline]03:40AM[/editline] Plus the fact that there's dozens of precedents for colorful, non-camouflaged animals in nature today kind of undermines your argument.

[QUOTE=K00n!;20939348][img]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=91601&dateline=1269388264[/img][/QUOTE] I always loved his avatar and would like the video it came from. I ENJOY BREAKING INTELLECTUAL POST COMBOS.

A whole lot of scientists have been wrong before. Look at the first few attempts to go to space

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20949421]A whole lot of scientists have been wrong before.[/QUOTE] There's no logical reason to think they're wrong here, and every reason to think they're right. Why are you trying to argue this? It's really silly.

[QUOTE=TH89;20949479]There's no logical reason to think they're wrong here, and every reason to think they're right. Why are you trying to argue this? It's really silly.[/QUOTE] I'm not trying to start an argument, you were the one doing that. Everyone seems to think as soon as a scientist says it, it must be fact.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20949421]A whole lot of scientists have been wrong before. Look at the first few of America's attempts to go to space[/QUOTE] Scientists can be wrong. It doesn't mean it can't be fixed, reworked, or refined.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20949521]I'm not trying to start an argument, you were the one doing that. Everyone seems to think as soon as a scientist says it, it must be fact.[/QUOTE] The whole point of science is to find out facts. You've yet to give a single reason why anyone should doubt this except for "scientists are wrong sometimes." Are you a creationist or something? I don't get it. Are you trying to be cool by being arbitrarily contrarian?

And this is why we humans are alive and deez guys are ded \/ [img]http://images.china.cn/attachement/jpg/site1007/20100311/0013729e78490d02f45301.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=TH89;20949553]The whole point of science is to find out facts. You've yet to give a single reason why anyone should doubt this except for "scientists are wrong sometimes." Are you a creationist or something? I don't get it.[/QUOTE] Why would the feathers be black, it seems odd no? There's no reason to think since the time of the dinosaurs, that plants have become less efficient at capturing light (green being the wavelength they can't capture today, a plant at maximum efficiency would be black) so there seems no logical reason for them to be black with white stripes. Most animals are colored so they can blend in with the plants around it, to hide from predators, assuming plants weren't black with white stripes back then, why would they be that color? Zebras are that color because they come together to form a large striped mass of animals that can be used to scare off predators, assuming the wings on this thing allow fight, it would most likely fly away if confronted with a predator not try to jump in a pile with other ones. You'd think it'd be brown, gray or something of that sort of camouflage purposes. The red on the head, and the white on the wings make it hard to blend in with the night sky. I never said I was an expert that's just my thought process.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20949623]Why would the feathers be black, it seems odd no? There's no reason to think since the time of the dinosaurs, that plants have become less efficient at capturing light (green being the wavelength they can't capture today, a plant at maximum efficiency would be black) so there seems no logical reason for them to be black with white stripes. Most animals are colored so they can blend in with the plants around it, to hide from predators, assuming plants weren't black with white stripes back then, why would they be that color? Zebras are that color because they come together to form a large striped mass of animals that can be used to scare off predators, assuming the wings on this thing allow fight, it would most likely fly away if confronted with a predator not try to jump in a pile with other ones. You'd think it'd be brown, gray or something of that sort of camouflage purposes. The red on the head, and the white on the wings make it hard to blend in with the night sky. I never said I was an expert that's just my thought process.[/QUOTE] Evolutionary adaptions don't always benefit the organism. You're acting that all adaptations were specifically designed for evolutionary advantages. Some are purely harmless side-effects and others can be detrimental. Those who have favorable traits from a good combination of alleles or get a beneficial mutation will go on and reproduce, and they will become successful and so on and so forth. This dinosaur, if put in your context, could also be a nocturnal animal who did its hunting during nighttime.

However it would violate natural selection. It would be more beneficial to the organism to be the color of the plant life around it. Being a seemingly random color doesn't help it does it? [editline]11:08PM[/editline] Where are you TH89, prove me wrong with your all knowing cock of mighty wisdom.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20949764]However it would violate natural selection. It would be more beneficial to the organism to be the color of the plant life around it. Being a seemingly random color doesn't help it does it?[/QUOTE] Peacocks have brightly colored, large tail feathers. It doesn't match the color of flora around it. It uses this to attract mates and succeed in creating offspring. Now, think very hard about the color of this dinosaur and its purpose.

i love its hair <3

[QUOTE=mikymikmik;20949852]i love its hair <3[/QUOTE] Egads, it has attracted a mate even through death!

Peacocks bring the feathers up to scare off predators. I see no where in the artists depictions where that is possible. Also, Peacocks are native to India, where there might be various brightly colored flowers around. Female peacocks are boring looking, only the male ones are neat.