Number of adults in US with college degrees hits new national record - Polidicks

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34896340]I'd rather be a philosophy major than information systems. Philosophy would at least be interesting, and I wouldn't be stuck at a help desk for the rest of my life. And this is coming from a Computer Science major.[/QUOTE] Yeah, you'd be stuck on a street spouting conspiracies.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34896340]I'd rather be a philosophy major than information systems. Philosophy would at least be interesting, and I wouldn't be stuck at a help desk for the rest of my life. And this is coming from a Computer Science major.[/QUOTE] I am technically still a computer science major, I'm going to be changing though. I agree that philosophy is fascinating, but it would be hard to get a job with that degree. I'd take classes on it, but not make a life out of it.

Luckily I'm moving into a job most people don't know about. I'm majoring in Information Technology/Networking & Security so I can work with the Federal Government in the Department of Defense or Homeland Security. Those jobs are bountiful and all you have to do is essentially be a paper tiger. (Certified in everything you can think of) Starting out most IT jobs pay at $60,000.00 per year and by the time I would retire I would be making $130,000.00 per year because a lot of Fed. Gov. positions give mandatory yearly raises. Plus I'd have a retirement, healthcare, and very good vacations.

[QUOTE=GunFox;34895821]This is a bad thing. We have basically locked ourselves into an education arms race. The result is that jobs that have no business requiring college degrees will demand them and jobs that don't need higher degrees will start requiring them. This doesn't help anyone. It only hurts society and causes a significant portion of our young workforce to enter the market in debt.[/QUOTE] What the hell ? In the future, developed country will need more people with degrees as the globalisation continues forward, much of the industrious work will go overseas. We need to concentrate on the potential of our human capital.

[QUOTE=TehDoctorz;34889866]Have faith in the future and shy away those pessimistic primal instincts (it's true, brain is hardwired to take in pessimistic information and hold onto it more than optimistic information).[/QUOTE] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimism_bias]No, actually the complete opposite is true.[/url] [editline]27th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34892777]What does everyone have against art degrees? There is nothing wrong with them.[/QUOTE] they're a drain on the economy

[QUOTE=Bredirish123;34896748]Luckily I'm moving into a job most people don't know about. I'm majoring in Information Technology/Networking & Security so I can work with the Federal Government in the Department of Defense or Homeland Security. Those jobs are bountiful and all you have to do is essentially be a paper tiger. (Certified in everything you can think of) Starting out most IT jobs pay at $60,000.00 per year and by the time I would retire I would be making $130,000.00 per year because a lot of Fed. Gov. positions give mandatory yearly raises. Plus I'd have a retirement, healthcare, and very good vacations.[/QUOTE] Most people don't know about IT? IT is by no means a secret. And it's not a well-respected or prestigious job at all. [editline]27th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;34897462] they're a drain on the economy[/QUOTE] I'm sorry that you think it's better to trample over people who want to enjoy life in your greedy pursuit of the maximum number of dollars you can get your hands on. [editline]27th February 2012[/editline] I respect artists because they do what they enjoy. I don't respect MBAs because they're only in it for the money.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34897738]Most people don't know about IT? IT is by no means a secret. And it's not a well-respected or prestigious job at all. [editline]27th February 2012[/editline] I'm sorry that you think it's better to trample over people who want to enjoy life in your greedy pursuit of the maximum number of dollars you can get your hands on. [editline]27th February 2012[/editline] I respect artists because they do what they enjoy. I don't respect MBAs because they're only in it for the money.[/QUOTE] Or maybe MBAs want to further their education because they enjoy the field. I'm studying accounting and planning to start my MBA next year, not because I'm a greedy fuck, but because I enjoy the field of study, and I want to pursue my CPA certification.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34888617]So long as it's not 100%. As sad as it is to say, there are jobs that need to be done without a college degree, such as basic utility jobs. I can see it now - in the future as college degrees grow, the jobs with higher pay will end up the ones with the need of a college degree because there are zero applicants to them.[/QUOTE] We will get robots to do our dirty work in socialist college learning america. [editline]27th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=brianosaur;34895389]Depends what you want to major in, are you planning on majoring in a dead end major like the arts, philosophy, history (unless you wanna teach the rest of your life), etc. I'm in college for information systems tech, and i love it and college is the best decision i ever made.[/QUOTE] There is no such thing as a dead end field.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34894871]It's because of what I posted just before you. High schools no longer teach any real life necessities. They only focus on "WE NEED TO PREPARE YOU FOR COLLEGE" and nothing more. Hell, in my high school, the class personal finances (teaches you about banking and managing your own money) was a strictly optional class that, when I took it, there were only 10 other students in there with me.[/QUOTE] Pretty much this in the UK too. All of my lessons since I can remember have only been about teaching us to past the tests, not understand the actual subjects. Hell, I managed to get a B in biology and I have no idea what the fuck anything is.

prob cus dem leberals hav wuined our scool sistem an mad it rel ezz!!!!!11

Yeah, but right now an American student drops out of High School every 26 seconds, so this will number will decline a lot over the next 10 years. Are people disagreeing at A) A high school student drops every 26 seconds or B) the number will decline. A is fact, B is my opinion.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34897738]I'm sorry that you think it's better to trample over people who want to enjoy life in your greedy pursuit of the maximum number of dollars you can get your hands on. [editline]27th February 2012[/editline] I respect artists because they do what they enjoy. I don't respect MBAs because they're only in it for the money.[/QUOTE] i respect stem majors because they contribute orders of magnitude more to the rest of the human race than liberal arts i don't know how you can call anyone greedy

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34897738] I respect artists because they do what they enjoy. I don't respect MBAs because they're only in it for the money.[/QUOTE] I have a friend whom is an art major simply because he thinks he can get big bucks out of it. He's barely skilled at art at all. What do you make of this "doing it for the enjoyment" person? [editline]28th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mechanical43;34897323]What the hell ? In the future, developed country will need more people with degrees as the globalisation continues forward, much of the industrious work will go overseas. We need to concentrate on the potential of our human capital.[/QUOTE] We shouldn't be so utterly dependent upon other nations such as China for our industries. [editline]28th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Noble;34896225]You could get hired as a lecturer or writer, or author your own books. I'm not a philosophy major but I still find the subject interesting.[/QUOTE] I'm considering minoring in philosophy. I think it would make a great compliment to my history major. You can know all the events that happened, but you really can't know the past until you've learned how the people thought about life.

The thing is though, not everybody needs to go to college to succeed, if you think about it. Calculus and Biology won't help if you're going to be a Plumber (which my city desperately needs)

Wonder what the info on Uni graduates are - I would like to know how common people in my future line of work are.