• EA, Valve wooing Nintendo for Wii U online distribution services? (Rumor)
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[QUOTE=Godline;33264276]Wii is a shite console anyway. Waste of developing time.[/QUOTE] it made more money than xbox and ps3 combined....
[QUOTE=Madtoker;33294151]it made more money than xbox and ps3 combined....[/QUOTE] Not anymore, sales have slumped heavily and the other two consoles are catching up. Plus in the long run, its not the games that sell the best that change gaming. Its the games that do something really good first, ala the First Modern Warfare.
[QUOTE=Swilly;33294235]Plus in the long run, its not the games that sell the best that change gaming. Its the games that do something really good first, ala the First Modern Warfare.[/QUOTE] Actually I think that would be proof of the opposite. Modern warfare didn't really do any one idea differently but just put a lot of the together. There were games like it before it came out but non sold like modern warfare did and thats when developers decides to copy it.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;33295708]Actually I think that would be proof of the opposite. Modern warfare didn't really do any one idea differently but just put a lot of the together. There were games like it before it came out but non sold like modern warfare did and thats when developers decides to copy it.[/QUOTE] Which is something new. The entire idea, 'but x took its ideas from y and z' doesn't mean it wasn't original. In fact it means the opposite because what is created is completely new using Y and Z.
[QUOTE=Swilly;33294235]Not anymore, sales have slumped heavily and the other two consoles are catching up.[/QUOTE] Because so many people have it now and Nintendo has announced that they're releasing a new console next year so nobody is dumb enough to buy a Wii now when it's about to be replaced
I seriously hope Nintendo will implement Steam, but knowing Nintendo, I think they will go for EA because they have more influence, money and also publish games on the Nintendo consoles.
[QUOTE=Titz;33270323]Yeah, because EA and Valve would kindly team up. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Didn't they kind of do that with Left 4 Dead?
[QUOTE=Madtoker;33294151]it made more money than xbox and ps3 combined....[/QUOTE] VERY outdated information, Kinect has made more money than the 360 for example. Kinect (thus 360) is also dominating the console market.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;33301241]VERY outdated information, Kinect has made more money than the 360 for example. Kinect (thus 360) is also dominating the console market.[/QUOTE]Not really, yes they've made progress but the Wii still leads [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Upbxj.jpg[/IMG] [I]the xbox has quite the lead[/I] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(seventh_generation)#Sales_standings"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(seventh_generation)#Sales_standings[/URL] and as you can see this information isn't "outdated."
[QUOTE=The Baconator;33272520]Not in the age where people can't get the fuck off their Macbook Pros. I swear it's like they get high off of holding it and clicking it's keys, and yes they plays games like WoW, Runescape, Facebook games, etc on it.[/QUOTE] If that was the case then there wouldn't much of a market for consoles. Consoles are just massively easy to use compared to computers. Parents like the fact that they don't have to bother with issues we find trivial. Doesn't apply to just parents either. Everyone who owns/buys a console has a reason for it.
[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;33303301]Not really, yes they've made progress but the Wii still leads [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Upbxj.jpg[/IMG] [I]the xbox has quite the lead[/I] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(seventh_generation)#Sales_standings"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(seventh_generation)#Sales_standings[/URL] and as you can see this information isn't "outdated."[/QUOTE] I thought the playstation had way less sales then that compared to the xbox. They are practically equal, not to mention ps3 owners buy more games on average then xbox gamers.
[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;33303301]Not really, yes they've made progress but the Wii still leads [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Upbxj.jpg[/IMG] [I]the xbox has quite the lead[/I] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(seventh_generation)#Sales_standings"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(seventh_generation)#Sales_standings[/URL] and as you can see this information isn't "outdated."[/QUOTE] Cross references with how many consoles are being [I]used[/I]. In Japan for the most part, after the third year, they dropped the Wii and shoved it into a corner. That's what it comes down to.
[QUOTE=Swilly;33310500]In Japan for the most part, after the third year, they dropped the Wii and shoved it into a corner. That's what it comes down to.[/QUOTE] Source? Because for the most part hard core games are still being made for the wii in japan.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;33321202]Source? Because for the most part hard core games are still being made for the wii in japan.[/QUOTE] It was a year ago, now all the articles are about the price drop.
[QUOTE=Datsun;33304656]If that was the case then there wouldn't much of a market for consoles. Consoles are just massively easy to use compared to computers. Parents like the fact that they don't have to bother with issues we find trivial. Doesn't apply to just parents either. Everyone who owns/buys a console has a reason for it.[/QUOTE] That age that I'm talking about started when the iPad came out (or maybe the iPad 2, not sure).
As much as I agree with Valve's standpoint, I still think that one of the reasons this thread is seeing so much bias towards Valve is because it was posted on a forum based on a mod of a successful Valve title. If you were to make an identical OP on, say, a fan based Brink forum (ohgodIhopeitdoesn'texist), you'd probably see the same amount of bias.
[img]http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Butkicker/Stuff/mspaintmisc/steam_u_concept.png[/img] Oh, just imagine [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/img]
Am I the only one who isn't excited for a company that hates 3rd party developers?
[QUOTE=Swilly;33352812]Am I the only one who isn't excited for a company that hates 3rd party developers?[/QUOTE] Hopefully they have learned from past mistakes.
Origin being bad or not, does anybody else think a forum based around Steam is biased? [editline]20th November 2011[/editline] Oh, you noticed that, too.
[QUOTE=A big fat ass;33353599]Origin being bad or not, does anybody else think a forum based around Steam is biased? [editline]20th November 2011[/editline] Oh, you noticed that, too.[/QUOTE] Forum based around steam...halfway sure you mean Garry's mod.
Seeing how many outright stupid decisions Nintendo have made the last few years. I doubt they will make a good decision this time. Origin on Wii U is GOING to happen. Nintendo is retarded and I am very unhappy with my 3DS
[QUOTE=Ardosos;33353011]Hopefully they have learned from past mistakes.[/QUOTE] I really doubt it.
This better lead to a Pokemon MMO and good Super Smash Bros. online.
[QUOTE=Red scout?;33368285]Seeing how many outright stupid decisions Nintendo have made the last few years. I doubt they will make a good decision this time. Origin on Wii U is GOING to happen. Nintendo is retarded and I am very unhappy with my 3DS[/QUOTE] Just because you're not happy with Nintendo's decisions doesn't mean they're retarded. And you really can't say that Nintendo will prefer Origin over Steam. For all we know, they already chose one of them, but hasn't announced it.
[QUOTE=Swilly;33352812]Am I the only one who isn't excited for a company that hates 3rd party developers?[/QUOTE] Are you serious? Just because the wii didn't have as strogn a 3rd party as other systems doesn't mean it hates 3rd party. Not to mention if Nintendo is trying everything they can to get 3rd parties on the wii U. [editline]21st November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Swilly;33372114]I really doubt it.[/QUOTE] The reason why it didn't have as much support is because its hardware was pretty behind. But now that the wii Us hardware surpasses the other 2 systems and we are getting reports that the other 2 new systems aren't going to be that much more advanced hardware wise its pretty safe to say that developing for the wii U will be a lot easier.
[QUOTE=Krandel;33375840]Just because you're not happy with Nintendo's decisions doesn't mean they're retarded. And you really can't say that Nintendo will prefer Origin over Steam. For all we know, they already chose one of them, but hasn't announced it.[/QUOTE] No, they're thick headed. For example, they've said they'd rather not be in business than make 3rd party games. It's like some pride thing.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;33376396]No, they're thick headed. For example, they've said they'd rather not be in business than make 3rd party games. It's like some pride thing.[/QUOTE] I never heard them say that. Could you give me a source for it?
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;33376136]Are you serious? Just because the wii didn't have as strogn a 3rd party as other systems doesn't mean it hates 3rd party. Not to mention if Nintendo is trying everything they can to get 3rd parties on the wii U. [editline]21st November 2011[/editline] The reason why it didn't have as much support is because its hardware was pretty behind. But now that the wii Us hardware surpasses the other 2 systems and we are getting reports that the other 2 new systems aren't going to be that much more advanced hardware wise its pretty safe to say that developing for the wii U will be a lot easier.[/QUOTE] ..... Yes because the Gamecube was real 3rd Party, or the N64. And before you give a list of games. I'll bet you atleast 10 bucks that each of those all had companies which Nintendo had a personal stake in.
[QUOTE=Swilly;33381119]..... Yes because the Gamecube was real 3rd Party, or the N64. And before you give a list of games. I'll bet you atleast 10 bucks that each of those all had companies which Nintendo had a personal stake in.[/QUOTE] The gamecube and n64 did have a lot of 3rd party titles. Most of Nintendos rules were mainly to stop sexual content.
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