Google Stock Surge Adds Record $52 Billion to its Market Value
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Every time I try to use a search engine other than Google, I am filled with immediate regret from the subpar results and return to Google.
When the result I want is the first result 80% of the time or in the first couple results 95% of the time, and there's no clutter on the page from advertising a sidebars and shit, it's hard to choose anything else.
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It would take Google to do a huge messy thing to cause the average person to remotely think of leaving the search engine for good and going to one of the other ones.[/QUOTE]
you'd be surprised how many computer illiterate people refer to things like yahoo as "the safe version of google."
most people 40 and up that I've met have something other than google as their home page, usually really terrible shit that got set by one of those bloatware installers that changes your default search engine and everything.
obviously google still holds the overwhelming majority of search engine traffic but there is a considerable amount on others.
RIP san francisco
[QUOTE=Source;48243820]I'd rather Google be champs of the search engine anyway since bing is...y'know owned by Microsoft.[/QUOTE]
Who I'd much rather give my information than Google.
Both search engines get you your answers, but Google looks like shit, while Bing is wallpaper material.
[QUOTE=joost1120;48248854]Who I'd much rather give my information than Google.
[B]Both search engines get you your answers[/B], but Google looks like shit, while Bing is wallpaper material.[/QUOTE]
in my experience, that is just untrue
I also really don't care what my search engine [I]looks[/I] like. Just if it gets me what I want to know faster.
[QUOTE=OvB;48230380]Google is not a monopoly.[/QUOTE]
I'd say google actually has a monopoly in multiple markets. Search being one of them. Another would probably smartphone OS storefronts and there's bound to be a few others.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;48230836]Good marketing does not mean its a monopoly. People are freethinking individuals and can not use some, or all, of google's services if they wanted.[/QUOTE]
The fact that people can use a different service does not not make google a monopoly. A monopoly is factual marketshare as opposed to potential situations were users don't use your product. As google has a monopoly position in search, you generally see others trying to get on in on it. SEO often only targets google, etc etc etc.
[QUOTE=Arrows;48230070]Google, le king of the monopoly.[/QUOTE]
Because Microsoft and yahoo don't exactly try, I mean they even pay to have their sites set as default or have fucking updates set their sites to default, but still Google holds a monopoly
Can anyone even compete with Google? I sure hope so.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;48249845]I'd say google actually has a monopoly in multiple markets. Search being one of them. Another would probably smartphone OS storefronts[/QUOTE]
Digital marketplaces were a fragmented ineffective mess before Google actually made play the default store, even then several competitors exist but its not like Google even limits what you put up, outside of dmca protections and a few other checks, they don't limit anyone and you can even still go to other app stores. Apple also accounts for a little under a half of the smartphone market with an exclusive storefront that has a very high bar of entry and some pretty questionable clauses.
Yeah with Apple's store alone I'd count a monopoly out for that. Then you add Microsoft, Amazon, etc.
[QUOTE=Sableye;48249953]Digital marketplaces were a fragmented ineffective mess before Google actually made play the default store, even then several competitors exist but its not like Google even limits what you put up, outside of dmca protections and a few other checks, they don't limit anyone and you can even still go to other app stores. Apple also accounts for a little under a half of the smartphone market with an exclusive storefront that has a very high bar of entry and some pretty questionable clauses.[/QUOTE]
You're mistaking two important things here. Monopoly and misuse of monopoly. Also apple accounts for only roughly 20% of the smartphone market as such for roughly only 20% of smartphone market users. And despite them making in over 90% of the profits, those aren't a measure of monopoly. Also I'd like to remind people that if someone has a monopolistic standing comes into consideration from 30-40% of the marketshare, unless there are similar or bigger competitors. You don't have to be the sole or close to 100% competitor.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;48250030]You're mistaking two important things here. Monopoly and misuse of monopoly. Also apple accounts for only roughly 20% of the smartphone market as such for roughly only 20% of smartphone market users. And despite them making in over 90% of the profits, those aren't a measure of monopoly. Also I'd like to remind people that if someone has a monopolistic standing comes into consideration from 30-40% of the marketshare, unless there are similar or bigger competitors. You don't have to be the sole or close to 100% competitor.[/QUOTE]
Ya but market share doesn't really make sense in a digital ecosystem, its not good for developers if they have to certify their app to 6-7 different stores and maintain 6-7 different bugfixes, there has to be an inherent monopoly involved here and Google to their best interests has not imposed any anticompetitive rules on the app store, also apple's app store made 11B$ as of 2014 the app marketplace itself is estimated to only be about worth about 20-24B$ as of 2013 so as a share apple is roughly half the market, so no Google doesn't have a monopoly on apps simply because they have the default store on the most devices
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What I'm saying is while the platform holders have an inherent monopoly similar to ISPs and their territory, the actual revanue breakdown shows that Apple and Google are mere gatekeepers and Google is not holding a massive slice of the total profit of the app industry. The other things to take into account are that downloads and profit are unrelated, Google may pummel apple with download numbers but apple is roughly half the total industry revanue from sales
DuckDuckGo works great too, and it keeps you out of the 'filter bubble'.
[QUOTE=patq911;48230085]A monopoly of other's incompetence isn't really a monopoly.[/QUOTE]
It will be later on.
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