Use of Ad-Blocking Software Rises by 30% Worldwide
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[QUOTE=JustExtreme;51772437]Good. If a site wants money I'm fine with them having a donate button but advertising shits in your head. If I want a product or service I will research it for myself and I'm not going to click on some banner ad anyway.[/QUOTE]
Oh man, I still think about how hard World of Tanks is pushing for web advertising. Unfortunately most of the stuff they use look like some flash or Facebook game instead of actually showing off the game content. Great game, wish I discovered it much sooner even. But shittily advertised.
[QUOTE=freaka;51772542]pro tip if you get to one of those shitty sites, turn off java scripts for them in chrome settings and you can view them even with adblock on[/QUOTE]
I've had maybe two that actually do not deliver the content no matter how much you edit the page, and require JavaScript.
adblock has a setting to allow nonintrusive ads and i leave that checked. it just means the occasional banner ad on website or twitch ads (from twitch not other ones) on streams.
You can't escape advertising when you're walking around in the city, driving down the highway, watching TV. Some taxi cabs in the US (at least in NYC) even have screens and speakers in the backseat that play a constant barrage of ads, and you have to fiddle with it to mute it. At the very least I can block ads on the internet and get some escape. I feel no qualms about blocking ads. It's not my responsibility to uphold a failed business model.
Advertisements for phones is the absolute worse as well.
"Oh, you are reading something?! HERE! let me redirect you to a malware site and have your phone vibrate until you close your browser"
How people browse without Adaway or other ad-blocking software is beyond me.
[QUOTE=RocketSnail;51772083][URL]https://adnauseam.io/[/URL]
It's an extension based on uBlock Origin that automatically clicks on blocked ads. Google banned it from the Chrome Web Store. I suggest you fork the github project [URL]https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam[/URL][/QUOTE]
This is incredible, I'll be sure to tell everyone I know about this.
[editline]4th February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Davidn64;51774890]Advertisements for phones is the absolute worse as well.
"Oh, you are reading something?! HERE! let me redirect you to a malware site and have your phone vibrate until you close your browser"
How people browse without Adaway or other ad-blocking software is beyond me.[/QUOTE]
Get Firefox for Android, it has complete plugin support. I got AdNauseam (as of right now), Decentraleyes, HTTPS Everywhere, and Self-Destructing Cookies installed.
I can imagine a near future where any form of adblock is illegal under the argument of loss revenues (similar to piracy laws), and we'll be forced to run our browsers in sandboxes to stay secure :v:
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;51775088]I can imagine a near future where any form of adblock is illegal under the argument of loss revenues (similar to piracy laws), and we'll be forced to run our browsers in sandboxes to stay secure :v:[/QUOTE]
Or it will be like piracy where nobody cares that it is illegal and continues to do it
Internet laws are unique in that the bulk of them tend to be outright ignored by society due to how unenforceable many of them are. Banning ad blockers would be the most bullshit and pointless law ever made and would do nothing but have the occasional teenager fined thousands of dollars to try and scare everyone into obedience like we already see with piracy.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;51775088]I can imagine a near future where any form of adblock is illegal under the argument of loss revenues (similar to piracy laws), and we'll be forced to run our browsers in sandboxes to stay secure :v:[/QUOTE]
It'll be a good year for people who make viruses :v:
Unintrusive, non-interrupting ads are ads I can manage.
Unfortunately those don't seem to exist, and for example seeing the same fucking ad for the 5th time in a 20-minute youtube-video drives me up the fucking wall. It doesn't happen at home (because adblock durr), but at work I can't install anything on the PC and I use youtube to listen to podcasts while I work and god-DAMMIT it gets annoying.
Not to mention the certainly malware-ridden ads you'd get when you need to download some once-in-a-lifetime exotic file from some garbage filesharing-site because it's the only place that has it.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;51775131]It'll be a good year for people who make viruses :v:[/QUOTE]
I've said it before and I'll said it again, ads should not be allowed to have embedded javascripts. They should just be a single image, gif, or video. And until that's the case, I will never stop using my adblocker, even if I have to use my VPN to get around the legality of it :v:
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;51775088]I can imagine a near future where any form of adblock is illegal under the argument of loss revenues (similar to piracy laws), and we'll be forced to run our browsers in sandboxes to stay secure :v:[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see them try making it illegal, lol. Ain't gonna discourage the vast majority of adblock users from continuing to use it and it'll actively encourage adblock developers to find ways to make it so there's no way the government would be able to figure out if you're using one without physically examining your computer.
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;51775144]Unintrusive, non-interrupting ads are ads I can manage.
Unfortunately those don't seem to exist, and for example seeing the same fucking ad for the 5th time in a 20-minute youtube-video drives me up the fucking wall. It doesn't happen at home (because adblock durr), but at work I can't install anything on the PC and I use youtube to listen to podcasts while I work and god-DAMMIT it gets annoying.
Not to mention the certainly malware-ridden ads you'd get when you need to download some once-in-a-lifetime exotic file from some garbage filesharing-site because it's the only place that has it.[/QUOTE]
Ads with malicious code [URL="http://www.pcworld.com/article/2604480/malicious-advertising-hits-amazon-youtube-and-yahoo-cisco-says.html"]sometimes even slip into popular sites such as Amazon, YouTube, and Yahoo[/URL].
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;51775157]Ads with malicious code [URL="http://www.pcworld.com/article/2604480/malicious-advertising-hits-amazon-youtube-and-yahoo-cisco-says.html"]sometimes even slip into popular sites such as Amazon, YouTube, and Yahoo[/URL].[/QUOTE]
Ever since FPSBanana became riddled with sketchy ads, up to the point where it was actually in gaming news that people were getting malicious attacks from them sometimes I hopped on to an adblock. Shits ridiculous and companies don't care as long as they get the cash.
A certain browser has an interesting feature that could make this work better:
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[url]https://brave.com/[/url]
Start supporting publishers today with our new Brave Payments system.
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[url]https://brave.com/publishers.html[/url]
Today, your visitors want minimal ads but you want maximum return for your great content. Brave gives both sides what they want.
How does it work? Readers may choose a monthly contribution amount which is divided among the publisher sites they visit most. And as Brave grows, so does your revenue.
Here is the best part. Neither the readers nor the publisher need to do anything different. They just keep surfing and you just keep publishing.
Well, one small detail... you do need to collect your cash.
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I'll never not use an Adblocker, because not having distracting shit I don't care about on the screen is just that fucking great. Added security and better performance are great reasons too, but to be completely honest, I'd still keep blocking if those were not an issue.
Yeah back in the day when I didn't use an adblocker I got malware that went straight through my anti-virus and straight up crippled my computer, so fuck that shit, if you want me to stop using it, make ads not a fucking danger to my computer and all the important stuff that's on said computer.
[QUOTE=jonu67;51775384]Yeah back in the day when I didn't use an adblocker I got malware that went straight through my anti-virus and straight up crippled my computer, so fuck that shit, if you want me to stop using it, make ads not a fucking danger to my computer and all the important stuff that's on said computer.[/QUOTE]
To be fair browsers are pretty secure these days, it's unlikely you're going to get malware. There could still be malicious code, but the worst it'll do is try to download files or ask you to install a browser addon, which you can just ignore. But you're right in saying ads should never contain malicious code of any kind
[QUOTE=mastersrp;51775219]A certain browser has an interesting feature that could make this work better:[/QUOTE]
IMO things like BRAVE are going to be needed going forward. I would love to support more websites that I use, but you mostly need to contribute quite large sums ($5+) and most websites I don't use enough to justify that cost (save for YouTube Red).
But a system where I can drop $20 bucks a month into a 'pot' and have it get distributed depending on my use, would be nice, and something worthwhile for the free internet.
[QUOTE=RocketSnail;51772083][URL]https://adnauseam.io/[/URL]
It's an extension based on uBlock Origin that automatically clicks on blocked ads. Google banned it from the Chrome Web Store. I suggest you fork the github project [URL]https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam[/URL][/QUOTE]
Wait, so does this still give ad revenue to people who use them but make sure I don't have to see them?
[QUOTE=djjkps2;51775673]To be fair browsers are pretty secure these days, it's unlikely you're going to get malware. There could still be malicious code, but the worst it'll do is try to download files or ask you to install a browser addon, which you can just ignore. But you're right in saying ads should never contain malicious code of any kind[/QUOTE]
Not always the case, more serious malware can take advantage of browser or operating system flaws to gain pretty much direct access, it's better to block them all than to take that risk however small it may be.
[QUOTE=glitchvid;51775689]IMO things like BRAVE are going to be needed going forward. I would love to support more websites that I use, but you mostly need to contribute quite large sums ($5+) and most websites I don't use enough to justify that cost (save for YouTube Red).
But a system where I can drop $20 bucks a month into a 'pot' and have it get distributed depending on my use, would be nice, and something worthwhile for the free internet.[/QUOTE]
I already pay enough to get an internet connection, if I want to support someone I'd rather do it directly rather than muck about with some automatic system that requires I install yet another web browser.
I only really use ad blockers because ads are obviously annoying.
But what's even more annoying are pages that show a pop up asking me to disable ad block to see their content.
Which makes me ask a question.. Is there an adblocker available that bypasses or gets around that check on these kinds of websites?
[QUOTE=Buck.;51776310]I only really use ad blockers because ads are obviously annoying.
But what's even more annoying are pages that show a pop up asking me to disable ad block to see their content.
Which makes me ask a question.. Is there an adblocker available that bypasses or gets around that check on these kinds of websites?[/QUOTE]
There's an anti-anti-adblocker you can install
[QUOTE=UnknownDude;51774878]It's not my responsibility to uphold a failed business model.[/QUOTE]
I love you.
[QUOTE=Chryseus;51776280]Not always the case, more serious malware can take advantage of browser or operating system flaws to gain pretty much direct access, it's better to block them all than to take that risk however small it may be.[/QUOTE]
Very, very, very unlikely. If you're using Chrome or browser based on Chromium, there's a whole section of work that goes into the browser to ensure security.
[url]https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security[/url]
I believe other popular browsers have the same level of focus on security too.
[QUOTE=djjkps2;51776408]Very, very, very unlikely. If you're using Chrome or browser based on Chromium, there's a whole section of work that goes into the browser to ensure security.
[url]https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security[/url]
I believe other popular browsers have the same level of focus on security too.[/QUOTE]
WebKit (layout engine for Safari and Chrome) has so many security vulnerabilities it isn't even funny. As a side note, though, that makes it useful for gaining homebrew access on the 3DS and even kernel-level access on the Wii U :v:
I wouldn't trust browser sandboxing alone. They're a whole lot more secure than back in the day, but they're awfully complex and Im sure there are still a lot of holes that can put your system in danger.
[QUOTE=Chryseus;51776280]
I already pay enough to get an internet connection, if I want to support someone I'd rather do it directly rather than muck about with some automatic system that requires I install yet another web browser.[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't be mandatory. Furthermore it's a pretty good solution for an ad free internet.
[QUOTE=djjkps2;51776408]Very, very, very unlikely. If you're using Chrome or browser based on Chromium, there's a whole section of work that goes into the browser to ensure security.
[url]https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security[/url]
I believe other popular browsers have the same level of focus on security too.[/QUOTE]
What are bugs and exploits? You clearly have no idea what you're actually talking about. A lot of work may go into security but it's impossible to always catch all security bugs and exploits. Software is kinda extremely complicated and sometimes acts in unexpected ways.
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