It's baaaaaack! Killer Instinct for Xbox One has 24 hour internet check-in DRM - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Manibogi;43220682]Except Maximilian must've recorded over 1000 matches by now and this has NEVER happened to him. For a "common" issue there have been very few reports of this, and it only occurs when there's a bad connection between players, in other words, long distance or overseas matches. If you're gonna attempt THAT in any fighting game then you deserve whatever issues you get. So, way to pull that out of your ass. [editline]18th December 2013[/editline] Now this is just a terrible counter argument and I'm not even gonna tell you why, it's fairly obvious.[/QUOTE] IT HASN'T HAPPENED TO THIS ONE GUY SO THE PROBLEM DOESN'T EXIST!!!!!!!! [editline]18th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=isoulcalibur;43220520] if not THE best netcode available in any fighting game out right now. [/QUOTE] not while GGPO exists I'm sorry

[QUOTE=Robber;43222628] It's literally [I]impossible[/I] to consider that worse than normal F2P or normal paid games unless you misunderstood how it works.[/QUOTE] Not really, I play the good F2P games where most of the content can be unlocked via actually playing the game. This is just P2W bullshit like APB. Except with way fewer options and zero cosmetics.

Microsoft were bound to roll back things they claimed to ditch after E3. It's very naive to think otherwise.

[QUOTE=gk99;43224152]Not really, I play the good F2P games where most of the content can be unlocked via actually playing the game. This is just P2W bullshit like APB. Except with way fewer options and zero cosmetics.[/QUOTE] How is KI P2W? Jago is free and he's a pretty good counterpick to every other character in the game right now. He can beat any other member of the cast with ease. Also, there ARE cosmetics. A lot of them. Clearly you know nothing about the game, so why even bother posting in this thread?

[QUOTE=gk99;43224152]Not really, I play the good F2P games where most of the content can be unlocked via actually playing the game. This is just P2W bullshit like APB. Except with way fewer options and zero cosmetics.[/QUOTE] Yeap, thanks for reading the thread and being totally uninformed without actually have played the game. Characters rotate each week for the F2P version and to unlock the whole cast it's 20 bucks. Nobody's OP. This is better than your average 'F2P', you do realize this right? KI is clearly nowhere near P2W. The only thing you get with money is the ability to play any part of the cast whenever you want. Which is what they want you to do, and it's pretty cheap considering other fighting game's prices. Thanks for making up bullshit!

KI isn't even F2P. I see the free character as simply a VERY well done free trial. THEN, you can pay $20 to buy the full game. $20. Full game. If you're whining, you're full of shit.

[QUOTE=Manibogi;43218655]I know right? It's like, every other paid fighting game or some shit. Unbelievable. [editline]17th December 2013[/editline] Okay, whose ass did you pull that from? You get Jago for free and then you pay for the rest like you would pay for any other fighting game. It's more generous than it seems like, considering they're probably losing a lot of money by doing this.[/QUOTE] The fact you have to pay for any characters in a fighting game is literally fucking retarded, I genuinely hope the game fails catastrophically based on that alone.

[QUOTE=bravehat;43225471]The fact you have to pay for any characters in a fighting game is literally fucking retarded, I genuinely hope the game fails catastrophically based on that alone.[/QUOTE] Bull fucking shit. It's not paying for characters. It's paying $20 for the full game. OOOOOOOR, you can pay for specific characters, IF YOU WANT TO. Nobody's forcing you.

[QUOTE=bravehat;43225471]The fact you have to pay for any characters in a fighting game is literally fucking retarded, I genuinely hope the game fails catastrophically based on that alone.[/QUOTE] Uhh, technically you have to pay for characters in every fighting game, since you're paying for the game. KI is the exact same deal, only there's a version that's free and has 1 character.

So far this thread just seems to be bitching about certain things that are presented as a CHOICE, not as a requirement. God forbid game companies give people a choice of how they want to pay for their game. What soulless bastards.

This whole thread has been: "This game is worth 60 dollars and it's amazing!" "This game is worth 20 dollars and gives you 1 character for free, and it sucks because of it!"

[QUOTE=simkas;43225549]Uhh, technically you have to pay for characters in every fighting game, since you're paying for the game. KI is the exact same deal, only there's a version that's free and has 1 character.[/QUOTE] Right, so it's essentially just an arse for elbow way of doing things.

Yeah, to you guys who are saying Killer Instinct is shit, I don't know what game you're playing because it's not the one that's I've been playing. My introduction to the Killer Instinct games was an arcade machine some time in the early 90's, since then I've always sorta missed that feeling of having those big, clunky controls that I could somehow manipulate with surgical precision. I played [i]every single Killer Instinct game since then[/i] and I'm not going to lie, the latest Killer Instinct is fucking fun. This isn't nostalgia speaking, in fact, the latest game has overcome my feelings of nostalgia and lived up to my first experiences. For once a game has come out that's everything it was back in the day, at least for me. I realize it's "free to play but you only get Jago" thing is misleading, and it kinda sucks, but as people have said it's twenty dollars for the rest of the characters which is a deal since the game's pretty fucking great. Technically, you can become a god with Jago and never spend a dime but I bought everything immediately because I played it once and that's all I needed. I said, "yep, this game is worth it," and downloaded as much as I could. (except for accessories, I don't need accessories to snap necks and cash my checks)

[QUOTE=bravehat;43225904]Right, so it's essentially just an arse for elbow way of doing things.[/QUOTE] Again, how? It's a $20 game. I fail to see what the problem is.

[QUOTE=bravehat;43225904]Right, so it's essentially just an arse for elbow way of doing things.[/QUOTE] You're getting a better and more convenient deal than you would if it was just a regular retail priced game, that sounds like the complete opposite of an arse for elbow way of doing things to me.

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;43225924]Again, how? It's a $20 game. I fail to see what the problem is.[/QUOTE] Why not just sell it as a a 20$ dollar game and just have all the fighters instead of doing a really nitpicky thing of one free character, then buying the rest individually or en masse? Really, if it's 20 dollars then only a tight arsed twat will moan about the price and people who want it will buy it because the price isn't an issue so why even go through the trouble of essentially needing to pay for each character or actually buy them separately. Like I said, it's not the price that's the problem, it's the pointlessly arse for elbow thing of buying characters after that.

[QUOTE=bravehat;43225963]Why not just sell it as a a 20$ dollar game and just have all the fighters instead of doing a really nitpicky thing of one free character, then buying the rest individually or en masse? Really, if it's 20 dollars then only a tight arsed twat will moan about the price and people who want it will buy it because the price isn't an issue so why even go through the trouble of essentially needing to pay for each character or actually buy them separately. Like I said, it's not the price that's the problem, it's the pointlessly arse for elbow thing of buying characters after that.[/QUOTE] How the fuck is that nitpicky? It's a CHOICE. It's something they've OFFERED, not required. Again, if you think a game company is wrong because they offer multiple choices of pay than just the one, then you're totally full of shit. Yes, paying for each character isn't ideal. But you don't HAVE TO. If they had required it, then yes, it would be an issue. But they didn't, so it's not an issue at all. It's simply a choice that's there, and you can easily ignore it if you want. Anybody who thinks this is an issue is simply grasping at straws.

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[QUOTE=Shark Bones;43226001]How the fuck is that nitpicky? It's a CHOICE. It's something they've OFFERED, not required. Again, if you think a game company is wrong because they offer multiple choices of pay than just the one, then you're totally full of shit. Yes, paying for each character isn't ideal. But you don't HAVE TO. If they had required it, then yes, it would be an issue. But they didn't, so it's not an issue at all. It's simply a choice that's there, and you can easily ignore it if you want. Anybody who thinks this is an issue is simply grasping at straws.[/QUOTE] How is this evading you? I don't care about price, company, individually buying characters or anything. I'm saying that if you're gonna put the price that low, then why not just follow the standard model of demo with a character or two and then release the game with a full roster for 20 dollars? Doing a full release for free and locking the characters that will be undoubtedly unlocked later because of the low price just seems like a needlessly backwards way of doing it. Aye it achieves the same effect but why reinvent the wheel?

[QUOTE=bravehat;43225963]Why not just sell it as a a 20$ dollar game and just have all the fighters instead of doing a really nitpicky thing of one free character, then buying the rest individually or en masse? Really, if it's 20 dollars then only a tight arsed twat will moan about the price and people who want it will buy it because the price isn't an issue so why even go through the trouble of essentially needing to pay for each character or actually buy them separately. Like I said, it's not the price that's the problem, it's the pointlessly arse for elbow thing of buying characters after that.[/QUOTE] So that you can seriously try out a game with a tiny entry fee? Why would you complain about a cheaper buy-in??

[QUOTE=bravehat;43226043]How is this evading you? I don't care about price, company, individually buying characters or anything. I'm saying that if you're gonna put the price that low, then why not just follow the standard model of demo with a character or two and then release the game with a full roster for 20 dollars? Doing a full release for free and locking the characters that will be undoubtedly unlocked later because of the low price just seems like a needlessly backwards way of doing it. Aye it achieves the same effect but why reinvent the wheel?[/QUOTE] Except it really isn't a full release. It's a demo. A demo with one character. Not ideal, but if you want the game, it's only $20. Hell, most fighting games don't even GET a demo. [editline]18th December 2013[/editline] They tried something new, and put it off to the side as a choice if you don't want to use it. They didn';t re-invent the wheel, they offered both the original wheel and their own wheel. Your choice of how you want.

Guys, why are you even arguing with him? He'll never understand, the guy's either a troll or really daft.

[QUOTE=Manibogi;43226129]Guys, why are you even arguing with him? He'll never understand, the guy's either a troll or really daft.[/QUOTE] Mainly because I fucking adore this game and I don't want ignorance to keep people from buying it. If you don't like the game itself, that's fine. But nitpicking about alternate ways to pay? That's just lame. I'd rather the truth be spread than whiny BS. This game has absolutely stellar gameplay, it's fun on an almost unholy scale. I want more people to play it, personally.

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;43226157] If you don't like the game itself, that's fine. But nitpicking about alternate ways to pay? That's just lame. I'd rather the truth be spread than whiny BS.[/QUOTE] You can't critique a game while leaving out its pricing strategy. The monetization is what the game has to be designed around.

[QUOTE=Super Muffin;43226516]You can't criticize a game while leaving out its pricing strategy. The monetization is what the game has to be designed around.[/QUOTE] So Killer Instinct should be praised for offering a cheaper way to pay.

[QUOTE=bravehat;43225963]Why not just sell it as a a 20$ dollar game and just have all the fighters instead of doing a really nitpicky thing of one free character, then buying the rest individually or en masse? Really, if it's 20 dollars then only a tight arsed twat will moan about the price and people who want it will buy it because the price isn't an issue so why even go through the trouble of essentially needing to pay for each character or actually buy them separately. Like I said, it's not the price that's the problem, it's the pointlessly arse for elbow thing of buying characters after that.[/QUOTE] They literally are doing EXACTLY that, only with there being a choice to play it for free that gets you 1 character. You are literally saying it's bad because it has a demo.

[QUOTE=Super Muffin;43226516]You can't critique a game while leaving out its pricing strategy. The monetization is what the game has to be designed around.[/QUOTE] And the general pricing strategy is $20 for the full game. Just because it has an alternate, OPTIONAL way of paying doesn't make it at all bad or faulty. In any way. If you're nitpicking 100% optional things, then your argument is pretty much totally invalid.

[QUOTE=bravehat;43225471]The fact you have to pay for any characters in a fighting game is literally fucking retarded, I genuinely hope the game fails catastrophically based on that alone.[/QUOTE] Lmao, what are you even saying? 20 bucks for the whole game, ALL characters. That's a fucking deal. The fact that you can pay for individual characters can make the game cheaper than 20 dollars if you plan on never playing on all the characters. I guess by your logic, you hope LoL, DoTA, etc. fail 'catastrophically based on that alone'?

If the game had presented the "pay for individual characters" motif as the only way to pay, then yes, it would have been worth getting upset over. But they didn't, they presented it as an optional choice for people who do just want to buy specific character instead of the whole game. If you just want a lump sum for the whole game, you got that, in a cheap price of $20. Nitpicking the way of pay that you didn't even chose to take makes no sense. It's there for specific character loyalists, not for everyone.

Why does everyone keep saying $20 for all characters? Read what you're buying. [quote=pricing] Combo Breaker Pack $19.99 / 19,99€ - 8 first characters (6 from launch and 2 which will be available after)[/quote] The $20 option is for the first 8 characters. You'll be paying more down the road for additional characters and stages. It might not reach up to $60 for all the non-cosmetic content in the long run, which would be great, but I don't have faith that will be the case.