Federal judge declares National Day of Prayer unconstitutional - Polidicks

[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;21397393]Because it's considered "Unpatriotic" to change your pledge or your money[/QUOTE] Unless it's 1950 and you're changing your pledge to include "under god"

[QUOTE=Billiam;21397474]Um, religion in politics of a secular country is dangerous, like destruction of basic rights dangerous. [/QUOTE] Because a government recognizing the cultural diversity of their country is destruction of basic rights.

[QUOTE=Mexican;21397531]Unless it's 1950 and you're changing your pledge to include "under god"[/QUOTE] Well it was obviously done to combat communism, whos leaders were primarily atheist.

You can be certain that those who rated the OP dumb are the tea-party, fox-watching Palin-supporting type.

[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;21397549]Because a government recognizing the cultural diversity of their country is destruction of basic rights.[/QUOTE] Uh, because a government incorporating values from an unfounded and biased source when the document establishing the government explicitly states that they shouldn't is a violation of basic rights. The government recognizes the cultural aspect of religion by allowing everyone to practice as they please. However, when the government begins to include religion in law they're promoting it, which is a big slap in the face for non-religious people. Because they want to respect both groups they remain separate.

These kinds of shit makes me lulz

Jesus fucking christ! I bet half you didn't even know that was a holiday. It's not likes it gonna change you into some Bible-thumping Christian. You guys act like every christian is some backwoods, inbreed, redneck person. When in reality alot of christians are some of the smartest people I know. The only real atheist I will every take serious in these kinds of threads are, Johnnymo1 and whatwhat, and whatwhat hasn't been around in awhile. The rest of you are just stupid teens trying to figure out a way to be different and act like you got a voice. Nothing you say matters. No one cares that you're offended that the gov. had prayer as a holiday. Grow the fuck up, there's alot worse things than prayer in the gov.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;21398589]Jesus fucking christ! I bet half you didn't even know that was a holiday. It's not likes it gonna change you into some Bible-thumping Christian. You guys act like every christian is some backwoods, inbreed, redneck person. When in reality alot of christians are some of the smartest people I know. The only real atheist I will every take serious in these kinds of threads are, Johnnymo1 and whatwhat, and whatwhat hasn't been around in awhile. The rest of you are just stupid teens trying to figure out a way to be different and act like you got a voice. Nothing you say matters. No one cares that you're offended that the gov. had prayer as a holiday. Grow the fuck up, there's alot worse things than prayer in the gov.[/QUOTE] Congratulations on ENTIRELY missing the point of that ruling.

[QUOTE=Billiam;21397708]Uh, because a government incorporating values from an unfounded and biased source when the document establishing the government explicitly states that they shouldn't is a violation of basic rights. The government recognizes the cultural aspect of religion by allowing everyone to practice as they please. However, when the government begins to include religion in law they're promoting it, which is a big slap in the face for non-religious people. Because they want to respect both groups they remain separate.[/QUOTE] Look, can't we all just tolerate each other and get along?

[QUOTE=archangel125;21398644]Congratulations on ENTIRELY missing the point of that ruling.[/QUOTE] Eh. To late for me to actually try and find the point in these post. I'm agnostic myself, but you gotta admit some of the people in here, are just trying to act like they've got a voice. Well, goodnight.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;21398589]Jesus fucking christ! I bet half you didn't even know that was a holiday.[/QUOTE] I did. [QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;21398589]It's not likes it gonna change you into some Bible-thumping Christian. You guys act like every christian is some backwoods, inbreed, redneck person.[/QUOTE] I like how you only mention Christianity when in fact we aren't even talking about it. There are other religions that have prayer too. [QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;21398589]The rest of you are just stupid teens trying to figure out a way to be different and act like you got a voice.[/quote] Baseless claim. [QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;21398589]Nothing you say matters. No one cares that you're offended that the gov. had prayer as a holiday. Grow the fuck up, there's alot worse things than prayer in the gov.[/quote] Sounds like you're the one who needs to calm down and grow up. Why are you so mad? [editline]01:11AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;21398667]Eh. To late for me to actually try and find the point in these post. I'm agnostic myself, but you gotta admit some of the people in here, are just trying to act like they've got a voice. Well, goodnight.[/QUOTE] It's called a forum. We discuss things here.

[QUOTE=JDK721;21398674]I did. I like how you only mention Christianity when in fact we aren't even talking about it. There are other religions that have prayer too. Baseless claim. Sounds like you're the one who needs to calm down and grow up. Why are you so mad?[/QUOTE] Me mad? No no! I'm tired. I mentioned Christianity because, well, it's probably 75% of what you guys mean. My baseless claim is, infact a baseless claim, but alot of FPERs are teens who just want to feel wanted. I have no problem with you though.

Daddy is just trying to annoy us, since he has nothing better to do with his pathetic life.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;21398754]Daddy is just trying to annoy us, since he has nothing better to do with his pathetic life.[/QUOTE] By all means! This was part of my plan! Muhahahaha! Yes! It's working! It's working! Sorry, but nope. Also, I having nothing to do with my pathetic life at this moment, since it's 1:16 am here. [editline]09:17PM[/editline] [QUOTE=JDK721;21398674] It's called a forum. We discuss things here.[/QUOTE] Touche.

Except you make some of the most horrific generalizations I've ever seen, and you seem to think that we think that you're all uneducated red necks. Also, what does the fact that we're teenagers have to do with anything? The frontal lobe of the brain stops developing around 20, so basically we have the same thinking capacity as you, except without the years of strain, drinking and bias.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;21398589]Jesus fucking christ! I bet half you didn't even know that was a holiday. It's not likes it gonna change you into some Bible-thumping Christian. You guys act like every christian is some backwoods, inbreed, redneck person. [/QUOTE] no-one ever said anything like that. [QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;21398589]The only real atheist I will every take serious in these kinds of threads are, Johnnymo1 and whatwhat, and whatwhat hasn't been around in awhile. The rest of you are just stupid teens trying to figure out a way to be different and act like you got a voice. [/QUOTE] except i'm a 25-going-on-26 year old med student, and i'm not the one throwing around names and pejoratives don't you dare call us immature

Do I have a need to feel wanted? Maybe. I have a steady relationship, I don't need some sort of outside attention via the internet. People come to a forum to discuss things, that's what we're all doing. How does that mean we have a need to feel wanted?

[QUOTE=thisispain;21398802]no-one ever said anything like that. except i'm a 25-going-on-26 year old med student, and i'm not the one throwing around names and pejoratives don't you dare call us immature[/QUOTE] I apologize. I would snip my post, but as you see I'am the highlight in this thread. Honestly, I think my post was a post of tired rage. Skimmed to fast through this thread.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;21398834]I apologize. I would snip my post, but as you see I'am the highlight in this thread. Honestly, I think my post was a post of tired rage. Skimmed to fast through this thread.[/QUOTE] apologies mean nothing think before you post

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;21398798]Except you make some of the most horrific generalizations I've ever seen, and you seem to think that we think that you're all uneducated red necks. Also, what does the fact that we're teenagers have to do with anything? The frontal lobe of the brain stops developing around 20, so basically we have the same thinking capacity as you, except without the years of strain, drinking and bias.[/QUOTE] Not you personally, but i've seen posts where people act like christians and religion in general is for the retarded. [editline]09:23PM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;21398844]apologies mean nothing think before you post[/QUOTE] You are right. Guess it's a mistake on my part.

What is this? Why are you so easily defeated?

Because he isn't CriticalThought

[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;21398666]Look, can't we all just tolerate each other and get along?[/QUOTE] The government is tolerating everyone by not instituting a day of prayer.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;21398984]What is this? Why are you so easily defeated?[/QUOTE] He's a good person who can admit his mistakes. I didn't think those existed on the internet.

Hopefully an appellate court won't overturn that decision. In any case there is going to be a long time of bitching by the devout. Fun Fact: Original writer of the Pledge of Allegiance, Francis Bellamy, was a Baptist minister (and so-called "Christian Socialist), and he didn't see it necessary to put "God" in there. That was added later in the 1950s in an American attempt to differentiate their secular principles from Soviet atheism.

[QUOTE=ThatDamnGrei;21389804]Next we need to get "under god" out of the Pledge and "In god we trust" off the money.[/QUOTE] I never got that argument, really. Seems to me that if hardcore atheists are as rational as they say they are, they wouldn't rip their asses over something that harmless and petty. Real rational people don't care about symbols or symbolism in general.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;21399011]Because he isn't CriticalThought[/QUOTE] He lacks "critical thoughts" like "CriticalThought." :smug:

@ can we get along: No, no we cant. But we all can get together and eat cheese its

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;21398589]Jesus fucking christ! I bet half you didn't even know that was a holiday. It's not likes it gonna change you into some Bible-thumping Christian. You guys act like every christian is some backwoods, inbreed, redneck person. When in reality alot of christians are some of the smartest people I know. The only real atheist I will every take serious in these kinds of threads are, Johnnymo1 and whatwhat, and whatwhat hasn't been around in awhile. The rest of you are just stupid teens trying to figure out a way to be different and act like you got a voice. Nothing you say matters. No one cares that you're offended that the gov. had prayer as a holiday. Grow the fuck up, there's alot worse things than prayer in the gov.[/QUOTE] lol i can't even begin to count the amount of fallacies in that. [editline]04:21PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;21398712] but alot of FPERs are teens who just want to feel wanted.[/QUOTE] proof

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;21398589]The only real atheist I will every take serious in these kinds of threads are, Johnnymo1 and whatwhat, and whatwhat hasn't been around in awhile. The rest of you are just stupid teens trying to figure out a way to be different and act like you got a voice.[/QUOTE] Fallacies for Dummmies, entry #3: Frame your opponent as angsty teens.