wikileaks attacked, releasing contingency plan passwords - Polidicks

[QUOTE=catbarf;51930556]Probably because the leak itself is basically same old same old. Spy agency has spy tools, more at eleven. Is there evidence of it being unlawfully used against the American public? No? Alright, maybe it will be of interest to security firms. The drama regarding Russia is by far the most controversial aspect of this so that's what people are talking about.[/QUOTE] That's being incredibly trivializing to the issue. What Snowden leaked that the NSA was doing was perfectly legal (approved by a secret court no less) but no less immoral. Would you have called that "spy agency has spy tools big deal"? Are you really comfortable with the fact that these agencies have this kind of unaccounted power?

[QUOTE=Wii60;51930146]someone found this in the files is this a half life 3 arg[/QUOTE] Wow, that bout of righteous indignation didn't last very long

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51932045]Wow, that bout of righteous indignation didn't last very long[/QUOTE] am i not allowed to find something funny in something i dont like

[QUOTE=Crumpet;51930128]what does this mean? the current shift in politics is anything but socialist. [editline]8th March 2017[/editline] I love how McCarthyism has become a conservative buzzword, and it's especially hilarious to see it used as an insult by the same people who decry government intervention as socialism.[/QUOTE] I mean yea sure a basic income is being proposed in a lot of european countries yet somehow that isn't a shift towards socialism? Are you kidding me? I'm not even a fucking conservative, I would prefer a mixed market. So don't just assume what I am.

hope you've been wishing the CIA good night by whispering into your smart TVs before you go to sleep, guys

No, this isn't like Nixon. He spied on people without a warrant. Instead, this is like bugging every device in the world and only [i]looking[/i] once you have a 'reason'.

[QUOTE=Jim Morrison;51932039]That's being incredibly trivializing to the issue. What Snowden leaked that the NSA was doing was perfectly legal (approved by a secret court no less) but no less immoral. Would you have called that "spy agency has spy tools big deal"? Are you really comfortable with the fact that these agencies have this kind of unaccounted power?[/QUOTE] i'm comfortable with it because i accepted long ago that there's nothing i can do about it. if there were accountability measures put in place the capability wouldn't go away it would just get pushed deeper

[QUOTE=space1;51932489]I mean yea sure a basic income is being proposed in a lot of european countries yet somehow that isn't a shift towards socialism? Are you kidding me? I'm not even a fucking conservative, I would prefer a mixed market. So don't just assume what I am.[/QUOTE] How about we just assume you don't know what socialism is?

Also: [t]https://i.redd.it/fbrxfno1i1ky.jpg[/t] :v:

I am a meme engineer in the field of meme communications.

memes are a very legitimate propaganda force and if you were an intelligence agency and not exploiting them you'd be an idiot

[QUOTE=Jim Morrison;51932039]That's being incredibly trivializing to the issue. What Snowden leaked that the NSA was doing was perfectly legal (approved by a secret court no less) but no less immoral. Would you have called that "spy agency has spy tools big deal"? Are you really comfortable with the fact that these agencies have this kind of unaccounted power?[/QUOTE] If someone acts like it's shocking revelation that an agency like the CIA has the ability to hack Apple products, it's more reflective of their ignorance of the subject than of the significance of the leak. Snowden was a completely different thing and you're trivializing his significance by painting the two as equivalent. For starters, the programs he revealed were not standard-issue for intelligence agencies the world over, hence the political outrage theater that ensued, and the shocking part of that leak was the evidence that those programs had collected data on US citizens. If the extent of Snowden's leaks had been that the NSA can crack iPhones and they do this to Russia, lacking the two key factors that made it so controversial, the public reaction would have been wildly different. Does the leak demonstrate any capability far and above what every first-world intelligence agency on Earth is assumed to be capable of? Does it demonstrate actual unaccountable misuse of that power, or attempts to circumvent the safeguards on that power that currently exist? If the answer to both is 'no', then that reduces it to 'spy agency has spy tools' exactly as I said.

the worst part about this whole thing imo is that the cia had exploits exclusively to themselves [b]and then fucking "lost them"[/b] my favorite thing from this however is that they can make their digital fingerprint look like anyone else's, with an example given by the CIA themselves: russia. what a thing to stir the shit now, huh? [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-wikileaks-products-idUSKBN16F22M[/url] [quote]U.S. cyber security expert Robert Graham said WikiLeaks provided enough detail to recognize some known vulnerabilities. "One anti-virus researcher has told me that a virus they once suspected came from the Russians or Chinese can now be attributed to the CIA, as it matches the description perfectly to something in the leak," Graham said in a blog post.[/quote] also this shit is fucking gold. CIA has a list of kaomojis for infiltrating online communities [url]https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_17760284.html[/url] [quote](`･ω･´) <-- Pedobear?[/quote] they are very bad at this

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51926085]Wikileaks is, for me, false till proven true. They got an agenda (see Assange trying to form a libertarian party in Aus and supporting Donald Trump during election). They use information as a weapon and do not apply the purported doctrine of transparency unless it serves them and their goals. Selective transparency and deception by omission is little better than lying; and thats assuming you can even trust the validity their sources. If I set up a website called "wikiwhistleblower" and posted a bunch of stuff would you believe me? If so - why? Assange is a fervent anti state nutter - Year Zero will be just another thing to try and undermine peoples faith/confidence in the state.[/QUOTE] 0% of their documents have ever been proven false that wouldn't be true for YOUR website so no I wouldn't fucking believe you

[QUOTE=space1;51932489]I mean yea sure a basic income is being proposed in a lot of european countries yet somehow that isn't a shift towards socialism? Are you kidding me? I'm not even a fucking conservative, I would prefer a mixed market. So don't just assume what I am.[/QUOTE] What are you talking about? Since the neoliberal shift in the 80s Politics in the west has only dug it's heels deeper into the right wing. Moreso recently with the huge wave of right wing populism washing over Europe, and even the US with the election of Trump. A mixed market is a slight shift towards socialism, and the mixed markets have been declining in favour of the free market since Reagan and Thatcher. To say there has been a socialist shift is pure ignorance.

[QUOTE=Doozle;51926344]The cia will hack your smart tv and use it to assassinate you without being detected[/QUOTE] So they'll just put Piers Morgan on a loop and eventually you'll contemplate suicide as a result. [B][I]The perfect assassination! [/I][/B]

[QUOTE=TheJoey;51933637]the worst part about this whole thing imo is that the cia had exploits exclusively to themselves [b]and then fucking "lost them"[/b] my favorite thing from this however is that they can make their digital fingerprint look like anyone else's, with an example given by the CIA themselves: russia. what a thing to stir the shit now, huh? [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-wikileaks-products-idUSKBN16F22M[/url] also this shit is fucking gold. CIA has a list of kaomojis for infiltrating online communities [url]https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_17760284.html[/url] they are very bad at this[/QUOTE] (\/) (°,,°) (\/) WOOPwoopwowopwoopwoopwoop! the above text actually exists in a cia database in real life

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51932964]memes are a very legitimate propaganda force and if you were an intelligence agency and not exploiting them you'd be an idiot[/QUOTE] how the hell do you make a pro-government meme without looking obvious?

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51939066]how the hell do you make a pro-government meme without looking obvious?[/QUOTE] Easy, by making memes that vaguely shit on anti-government sentiments.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;51939077]Easy, by making memes that vaguely shit on anti-government sentiments.[/QUOTE] have there been any successful political memes? the closest one I know is "Holy shit my mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets"

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51939138]have there been any successful political memes? the closest one I know is "Holy shit my mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets"[/QUOTE] Ohhh yeah. I see a dozen a day in the politics discord.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51939138]have there been any successful political memes? the closest one I know is "Holy shit my mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets"[/QUOTE] Any meme that tends to be used as a strawman usually becomes politicized, regardless of whether or not that was the original intention.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51939066]how the hell do you make a pro-government meme without looking obvious?[/QUOTE] Its ridiculously easy lets say the CIA wants to disorganize a potential occupy wallstreet 2.0 via internet. The CIA can easily mass produce a set of images/memes full of rumors/lies/truths about people either involved in it or are running it. it can be normal memes or depending on the target they could go for niche meme styles like le epik dank memes. then you suddenly see shit like: - "tfw you want to go to work but protestors blocked me from doing so <silly expression picture>", - "LOL <Protest Figurehead> is just like Voldemort from harry potter", - "<A fake story about a person being harrassed by protestors>, please like and share to spread the story and keep people alert!", - "Hey jimbo, did you know that <protest figurehead> did <a terrible thing>, aint that just quackin crazy", - protester group AUTISTIC SCREECHING - and much more. Tons more ideas can pop up like crazy depending on the current meme flow. This isn't gonna look like some stupid twitter marketing tweet, its gonna look like some random 4channer/redditor/facebook dude/etc. made it. they can also do entire copypasta's and spread around that make the protestors look dumb. How about videos compiling all the bad things protesters are doing that will go viral, make comics about the protest that make fun of them, etc. all this shit will spread through the usual channels. reddit, facebook, twitter, 4chan, tumblr, whatever. people who find it funny/alarming/etc. will spread it like wildfire. everyone will laugh/hate your protest now instead of joining/accepting it and the protest will eventually die out. outrage quelled, everyone at CIA's meme warfare center cracks open a bottle of wine and parties for doing their job before going on to take aim at their next target. literal meme warfare exists and the best humor/inspiration/lies/etc. will win it. Someone is currently sitting in a CIA Office right now photoshopping a pepe to a picture of trump and getting paid for it with taxpayer dollars. we are in the worst form of cyberpunk.

It's also almost a guarantee that there are users on Facepunch who are employed by the CIA. Who'd have thunk it?

[QUOTE=Quark:;51943033]It's also almost a guarantee that there are users on Facepunch who are employed by the CIA. Who'd have thunk it?[/QUOTE] Found the spook

[QUOTE=Wii60;51939330]Its ridiculously easy lets say the CIA wants to disorganize a potential occupy wallstreet 2.0 via internet. The CIA can easily mass produce a set of images/memes full of rumors/lies/truths about people either involved in it or are running it. it can be normal memes or depending on the target they could go for niche meme styles like le epik dank memes. then you suddenly see shit like: - "tfw you want to go to work but protestors blocked me from doing so <silly expression picture>", - "LOL <Protest Figurehead> is just like Voldemort from harry potter", - "<A fake story about a person being harrassed by protestors>, please like and share to spread the story and keep people alert!", - "Hey jimbo, did you know that <protest figurehead> did <a terrible thing>, aint that just quackin crazy", - protester group AUTISTIC SCREECHING - and much more. Tons more ideas can pop up like crazy depending on the current meme flow. This isn't gonna look like some stupid twitter marketing tweet, its gonna look like some random 4channer/redditor/facebook dude/etc. made it. they can also do entire copypasta's and spread around that make the protestors look dumb. How about videos compiling all the bad things protesters are doing that will go viral, make comics about the protest that make fun of them, etc. all this shit will spread through the usual channels. reddit, facebook, twitter, 4chan, tumblr, whatever. people who find it funny/alarming/etc. will spread it like wildfire. everyone will laugh/hate your protest now instead of joining/accepting it and the protest will eventually die out. outrage quelled, everyone at CIA's meme warfare center cracks open a bottle of wine and parties for doing their job before going on to take aim at their next target. literal meme warfare exists and the best humor/inspiration/lies/etc. will win it. Someone is currently sitting in a CIA Office right now photoshopping a pepe to a picture of trump and getting paid for it with taxpayer dollars. we are in the worst form of cyberpunk.[/QUOTE] I wish to escape this meme reality I find myself trapped in

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51939138]have there been any successful political memes? the closest one I know is "Holy shit my mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets"[/QUOTE] Benghazi

Tbf CIA being in possession of al these hacks is not that shocking, it is only a natural thing that organization as such researched and developed that kinds of exploits. The more worrying part is them being able to false-flag their operations, and probably doing so in the past. The fact that Wikileaks released such documents *just* because their stream got taken down is worrying too, while nature of this leak shows that it's just a tiny part of CIA's arsenal, this does seem "a little bit" like they overreacted (I know they never released anything that would let people use this knowledge maliciously), and looks more like a personal attack on CIA than anything. Maybe they just wanted more publicity too? But hey, at least we will get some security updates out of this I guess.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51939138]have there been any successful political memes? the closest one I know is "Holy shit my mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets"[/QUOTE] biden memes, political spectrum memes, no step on snek, ancap memes, etc these are just off the top of my head, there's plenty of political memes. It's arguable that almost any meme thats pro/anti trump is political as well.