• UK Citizens Petition Government to Ban Donald Trump from Country
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The 3rd one... what the fuck?
Trump petition has now become the top petition of all time and looks set to be the first to break half a million signatures
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49279226]Banning people for saying offensive things is stupid.[/QUOTE] Remember instaban?
[QUOTE=*Freezorg*;49284670]That's stupid. The guy isn't gonna win the presidency, he is and will continue to be powerless, what is banning him gonna do exactly? Banning anyone from a [I]whole country[/I], [I]forever[/I] for "hate speech", especially [B]when they're as harmless as Trump (what's he gonna do, beat a Muslim with his bare hands? Yeah right)[/B] is stupid, you'd have to ban pretty much all the chavs in London.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I mean all he's going to do is ban all Muslims from entering the USA, deport every single illegal Mexican and their families, kill the families of terrorists, and build a wall around the US border if he becomes President (which is looking increasingly likely)! How fucking harmless is that?
[QUOTE=Killuah;49287487]Remember instaban?[/QUOTE] Reminds me of a guy who wanted a bigger hard drive and made a thread asking where to buy one... now consider that 'b' is next to 'n' on a keyboard and apply the aforementioned instaban script on facepunch, it was incredibly hilarious at the time.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;49287526]Yeah, I mean all he's going to do is ban all Muslims from entering the USA, deport every single illegal Mexican and their families, kill the families of terrorists, and build a wall around the US border if he becomes President (which is looking increasingly likely)! How fucking harmless is that?[/QUOTE] You're being an obtuse knob on purpose. I immediately stated that I think he has 0 chance of winning the presidency.
[QUOTE=kila58;49278936]Yea but why?[/QUOTE] They just don't need that kind of negativity in their lives
i agree hate speech should be legal and outright hinting at the ban of islamic citizens should be allowed.
i have muslim friends guys trust!!!!!
Past 500,000 votes. Now by far the highest on the website, ever.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;49290779]i agree hate speech should be legal and outright hinting at the ban of islamic citizens should be allowed.[/QUOTE] Might sound bad but it's better than the alternative of it not being legal.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;49292247]Might sound bad but it's better than the alternative of it not being legal.[/QUOTE] I, for one, am for making illegal hate speech especially against large groups of people. Moreso if the person saying it has political sway.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;49292550]I, for one, am for making illegal hate speech especially against large groups of people. Moreso if the person saying it has political sway.[/QUOTE] People with power make the laws, not obey them. Are you suggesting to have those who make and enforce laws to adhere to them? [QUOTE]If half a million people can take the time to sign a petition to ban you from their country in less than a week, you must be doing something wrong.[/QUOTE] The man has charisma and know how to manipulate people. He makes his living as a business man. By whipping up a frenzy, he is getting attention, thus power. So he is doing something right in this regard.
Even if he does get banned, you can be sure it'll disappear right away if he actually becomes president.
[QUOTE=Levithan;49281618]kill and devour the trump[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Terminutter;49282260]Stump the trump?[/QUOTE] you can't jump the trump
[QUOTE=J!NX;49292848]you can't jump the trump[/QUOTE] Teflon don needs to be gone
[QUOTE=*Freezorg*;49284670]That's stupid. The guy isn't gonna win the presidency, he is and will continue to be powerless, what is banning him gonna do exactly? Banning anyone from a [I]whole country[/I], [I]forever[/I] for "hate speech", [B]especially when they're as harmless as Trump (what's he gonna do, beat a Muslim with his bare hands? Yeah right)[/B] is stupid, you'd have to ban pretty much all the chavs in London.[/QUOTE] I think you're missing the point here. What trump is doing is not harmless. He is inciting hate within a mass amount of people toward Muslims. He's obviously not going around physically beating up Muslims, but that is the type of behavior that is incited in others by his words, which is the basis for punishment due to hate speech.
Just because a man says something you disagree with does not mean he should be banned from a country. The best way to challenge his ideas is to allow him into the country and then shine a spotlight on him. Eventually, if people do honestly indeed think Trump is the next Adolf Stalin Hitler "The Holocaust" Himmler then they will criticism him or debate with him. It's absolutely insane that people will support banning a person from their country for having objectionable ideas. That is no better than banning all people from a country for having religious ideas that you disagree with. You all need to re-examine your points of view and understand your own hypocrisy.
[QUOTE=DeEz;49292842]Even if he does get banned, you can be sure it'll disappear right away if he actually becomes president.[/QUOTE] which wont happen lol
[QUOTE=dragon1972;49293508]Just because a man says something you disagree with does not mean he should be banned from a country. The best way to challenge his ideas is to allow him into the country and then shine a spotlight on him. Eventually, if people do honestly indeed think Trump is the next Adolf Stalin Hitler "The Holocaust" Himmler then they will criticism him or debate with him. It's absolutely insane that people will support banning a person from their country for having objectionable ideas. That is no better than banning all people from a country for having religious ideas that you disagree with. You all need to re-examine your points of view and understand your own hypocrisy.[/QUOTE] Reread the thread, and take a look specifically at what trump is doing. He is inciting violence against muslims and other minorities. His own supporters have physically beat up other people and trump supported it.
[QUOTE=dragon1972;49293508]Just because a man says something you disagree with does not mean he should be banned from a country. The best way to challenge his ideas is to allow him into the country and then shine a spotlight on him. Eventually, if people do honestly indeed think Trump is the next Adolf Stalin Hitler "The Holocaust" Himmler then they will criticism him or debate with him. It's absolutely insane that people will support banning a person from their country for having objectionable ideas. That is no better than banning all people from a country for having religious ideas that you disagree with. You all need to re-examine your points of view and understand your own hypocrisy.[/QUOTE] Making fun of Trump in Britain will make absolutely no difference. Most informed people outside America know that his opinion on basically anything is worthless. Additionally, his ideas aren't objectionable, they're outright insane. Ban all muslims from entering? How the hell do you even enforce that in the first place? The only reason this petition exists is to persuade the British government to basically flip the bird to Trump as a presidential candidate. An allied nation telling off one of your presidential candidates is not something you can just ignore since that basically never happens. While we're at it, can we ban him from entering the EU in general?
[QUOTE=Matt2468rv;49293389]I think you're missing the point here. What trump is doing is not harmless. He is inciting hate within a mass amount of people toward Muslims. He's obviously not going around physically beating up Muslims, but that is the type of behavior that is incited in others by his words, which is the basis for punishment due to hate speech.[/QUOTE] In the UK? Nobody gives a fuck about Trump in the UK.
[QUOTE=da space core;49293924]Reread the thread, and take a look specifically at what trump is doing. He is inciting violence against muslims and other minorities. His own supporters have physically beat up other people and trump supported it.[/QUOTE] When did he directly and intentionally incite violence against Muslims? I'm curious. Is it the families statement? Did Trump actually condone his supporters beating protesters?
[QUOTE=dragon1972;49293508]Just because a man says something you disagree with does not mean he should be banned from a country. The best way to challenge his ideas is to allow him into the country and then shine a spotlight on him. Eventually, if people do honestly indeed think Trump is the next Adolf Stalin Hitler "The Holocaust" Himmler then they will criticism him or debate with him. It's absolutely insane that people will support banning a person from their country for having objectionable ideas. That is no better than banning all people from a country for having religious ideas that you disagree with. You all need to re-examine your points of view and understand your own hypocrisy.[/QUOTE] if a rapper got banned for writing fictional lyrics about rape and murder then donald trump should be banned for the very real hate he's tried to incite against various groups over the years
I do not think brits would like it the EU tried to influence their elections. Trump should not be banned from entering the UK
[QUOTE=momoiro;49305747]I do not think brits would like it the EU tried to influence their elections. Trump should not be banned from entering the UK[/QUOTE] We aren't trying to influence their elections - we're simply saying that he is not welcome in our country.
I feel like someones opinions start becoming relevant when it's [I]their platform for why they should lead an entire country.[/I]
I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but I can only see this giving him more ammo to work with.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49279226]Banning people for saying offensive things is stupid.[/QUOTE] no its not, offensive things have no positive outcome on a populous and therefore are derogatory towards progression and should be stamped out, especially if its the fucking retarded stupid lies trump farts out.
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;49306463]I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but I can only see this giving him more ammo to work with.[/QUOTE] He's going to have a hard time explaining why the US's #1 ally hates his guts, I mean look how he spun his Israel trip, and that wasn't even with nearly as much hate
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