Germany sees 'overwhelming' sales of Hitler's Mein Kampf - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Bradyns;51617946]Reading Mein Kampf isn't meant to be entertaining, but merely an insight into the momoirs (and morso the mind) of an historically important figure.[/QUOTE] But it's hilarious as hell, his description of his "beginning years" are basically the posterchild internet "I am so much smarter and more cultivated than thou" poster

[QUOTE=Turnips5;51617741]hitler invented crappy kickstarters actually [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_Through_Joy#The_.22People.27s_Car.22[/url][/QUOTE] Crappy kickstarter? I'd say it was a smashing success. [t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Vw_kaefer_1303_v_sst.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;51617917]Jewish influence in government policy has been increasingly spotlighted in recent years and along with the turmoil in Europe these sales don't surprise me[/QUOTE] Holy shit my stomach is hurting and my sides are non-existent

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;51617917]Jewish influence in government policy has been increasingly spotlighted in recent years[/QUOTE] No it hasn't oh my god

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51617972]Crappy kickstarter? I'd say it was a smashing success. [t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Vw_kaefer_1303_v_sst.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] But then that means hitler is indirectly responsible for porsche

[QUOTE=Limed00d;51618014]Holy shit my stomach is hurting and my sides are non-existent[/QUOTE] [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1497919&p=50126915&highlight=#post50126915[/url] [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1515044&p=50149037&viewfull=1#post50149037[/url] Poe's law at it again

[QUOTE=SirJon;51618018]But then that means hitler is indirectly responsible for porsche[/QUOTE] You think Ferdinand Porsche was just racing cars during WW2? He and Hitler said fuck that noise, and instead built toys for adults like this sexy motherfucker. [t]http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/imgs/sdkfz-184-ferdinand-elefant.jpg[/t] And this magnificent oversized thing. [t]http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Maus_Trials_1944.png[/t] And occasionally help contribute to some small dumb shit like this. [t]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_On6h0CRgS28/TVEKOkwf7EI/AAAAAAAAAIw/U_cxwCegDjQ/s1600/tank_tiger1-super.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=Tudd;51618037]You think Ferdinand Porsche was just racing cars during WW2? He and Hitler said fuck that noise, and instead toys for adults like this sexy motherfucker. [/QUOTE] Hundreds of hours of world of tanks have taught me to despise and revile all creations of Porsche

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51618046]Bad Example Ferdinand is a shit-tier waifu[/QUOTE] You fucking know in World of Tanks and War Thunder that the matchmaker made it shit! Happens every time with Russian Devs in charge. [editline]3rd January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Raidyr;51618045]Hundreds of hours of world of tanks have taught me to despise and revile all creations of Porsche[/QUOTE] My Dad owns 6 Porsches. So if you came over to my parent's house, it would be your worst nightmare when I lock you in my garage.

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51617972]Crappy kickstarter? I'd say it was a smashing success. [t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Vw_kaefer_1303_v_sst.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] However it didn't go into production until AFTER WWII. Those funds just sort of "vanished" once WWII started kicking in. So still meets the criteria for crappy Kickstarter. IIRC the people that already put money in didn't get reparations until the 60s. Unless you were in East Germany, in which you were shit outta luck for obvious reasons.

From what I've heard, the book isn't even that interesting. I'm sure it's fascinating for people who are interested in world history, or are history majors, but I bet modern racists buying the book for hitler are just wasting their money

[QUOTE=MasterKade;51618060]From what I've heard, the book isn't even that interesting. I'm sure it's fascinating for people who are interested in world history, or are history majors, but I bet modern racists buying the book for hitler are just wasting their money[/QUOTE] It honestly is. It just wasn't edited at all well and even Hitler himself thought it was too much rambling. But Hitler Table Talks are really good, the World at War series, and Nuremberg Diary are some of the best first-hand sources you can observe over World War 2 that give new points of views.

Mein Kampf is literally the most boring and uninteresting book ever written. [QUOTE] I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal placed in a very favourable position to be emotionally impressed again and again by the magnificent splendour of ecclesiastical ceremonial. What could be more natural for me than to look upon the Abbot as representing the highest human ideal worth striving for, just as the position of the humble village priest had appeared to my father in his own boyhood days?[/QUOTE] :ohno:

[QUOTE=Tudd;51618049] My Dad owns 6 Porsches. So if you came over to my parent's house, it would be your worst nightmare when I lock you in my garage.[/QUOTE] Explains a lot tbh

[QUOTE=uber.;51618505]Mein Kampf is literally the most boring and uninteresting book ever written. :ohno:[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Overhauser;51617948]But it's hilarious as hell, his description of his "beginning years" are basically the posterchild internet "I am so much smarter and more cultivated than thou" poster[/QUOTE] Good luck, I am behind 7 bunkers

[QUOTE=Overhauser;51617948]But it's hilarious as hell, his description of his "beginning years" are basically the posterchild internet "I am so much smarter and more cultivated than thou" poster[/QUOTE] Examples? Because actually, much of Hitler's "recollections" about his early years were inventions to hide the fact that his father was a drinker who regularly beat Adolf (as well as his mother, Klara) after his older half-brother Alois Jr. ran away from home (also the effect the death of his father had on him when he was 13), his Aunt Johanna was a hunchbacked schizophrenic who lived with the family and terrified him as a child, the psychological effects the death of his brother Edmund from measles in 1900 had on him (when he was 11), his time spent living with August Kubizek (perhaps the only friend he ever had) in Vienna, his bouts of depression and feelings of worthlessness, loneliness and social isolation, etc. If anything, his description of his early life in Mein Kampf is nothing but an invention to portray a normal existence to readers. In truth, it was an extremely dysfunctional childhood/adolescence which explains a lot about his personality in his later years.

I am talking about the pretentious "I am too good for these peasants" tone. But in regards to what you are saying, it absolutely makes sense.

[QUOTE=matt000024;51617634]Surprise surprise... trying to erase something by law would make it more popular? Who knew...[/QUOTE] That's not the reason why sales are rising. It's no like it was banned by law only yesterday. Also, de-nazification worked out pretty well and it was implemented by the Allies. Just saying. Foreigners seem to forget that and then pretend Germany is somehow trying to remove the Third Reich out of history books themselves.

Actually ordered the book a few days ago but it's still not here. Got Manheim's translation since I heard it was the most true to the real book, including things like grammatical errors.

I hope it also includes the part where the book just stops in the middle of a sentence due to ???? and nobody proofreading it

Did they put the Manga version back on shelves? I would buy that one in a heartbeat. [t]http://mangable.com/files/images/mein_kampf/1/12.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51618545]Explains a lot tbh[/QUOTE] To be fair, my family's history was that of being poor Croatian/German immigrants till around my grandfather sold the family business. My dad was even living on people's couches in California doing various jobs like Ski instructor/Garbage man until he got into accounting and now runs his own accounting firm/does real estate.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;51617630]It's prohibited to display it in public except for scholarly reasons, which in practice is fairly broad iirc.[/QUOTE] Yes, for example I'm not sure it's legal for me to post that Unicode character outside of artistic pursuits or other reasonable contexts with different meaning :v: The symbols ban is the broadest part of the anti-nazi laws here in Germany by quite a margin, and since e.g. video games are not-art-as-ruled-by-a-court-(years-ago) they are harshly censored in this regard too. The USK changed the guidelines in 2014 to regard games as art form, but that isn't relevant to considerations of legality.

[QUOTE=Overhauser;51617948]But it's hilarious as hell, his description of his "beginning years" are basically the posterchild internet "I am so much smarter and more cultivated than thou" poster[/QUOTE] Welcome To My Twisted Reich

[QUOTE=TheHydra;51619604]Welcome To My Twisted Reich[/QUOTE] M'Landsleute

[QUOTE=Overhauser;51619639]M'Landsleute[/QUOTE] *Tips Tyrolean*

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;51617917]Jewish influence in government policy has been increasingly spotlighted in recent years and along with the turmoil in Europe these sales don't surprise me[/QUOTE] if jews are so influential in the german government then why would they support the letting in of refugees with non positive views of jews anti semitic hate crimes have risen drastically since the letting in of refugees started. Whenever I hear these things blaming the jews for having tons of power and influencing western civilization, i wish you guys were right because sitting in a super secret room plotting the course of the world and discussing how to influence the goyim sounds more fun than barely affording college

[QUOTE=Bradyns;51617648]I would highly recommend reading it. Read it during modern history in year 12 almost 9 years ago, and twice since (own a hard copy). It gives you a unique insight into a man that captivated Germany and lead them into another war. I'd also recommend the "World at War" documentary series from the BBC in the 70's.[/QUOTE] Good to know the mods know their place :fp:

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51617793] You can probably make a fair case on why it may have been justifiable at the time, but nowadays at the very least they should be repealed imo.[/QUOTE] No, banning or suppressing ideas is [I]never[/I] a good idea. Think about what that implies, if you ban it, you're acting with the justification of those ideas being wrong and destructive. However if they were bad ideas with no merit, nobody would find them appealing, so you wouldn't have to ban it. You only ban ideas if you're either afraid of them, like how communist countries will ban anything anti communist, or because you object to them on morale grounds, in which case you're assuming that all people are collectively inherently evil/misguided/foolish/etc and will embrace the ideas without objection. And not only is that an awfully pessimistic worldview, it would also imply that people are inherently evil/resentful. And if that were true, a stable society would be functionally impossible, so that doesn't make any sense either. Moreover, that's assuming that there could be a set of ideas which are inherently evil/destructive/malicious in nature which function in reality better than anything else, which implies reality is an inherently evil place. But seeing as how the best and most well thought out principals, rooted in freedom, expression, individualist values and counter checks on power objectively function the best, all evidence points to reality being mostly benign. So that's another nail in the coffin. And anytime a movement is forcibly put underground, it will no longer be subject to criticism and counter movements from differing viewpoints, which leads to extremism and ideological fermenting, which is how nazism, communism and fascism found traction in the first place. The best cure for bad ideas is daylight. Arguing to ban ideas will never be anything but a tool for ideologically based oppression or unfounded and destructive sophistry. It will never be right and should always be fought.

[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;51621440]No, banning or suppressing ideas is [I]never[/I] a good idea. Think about what that implies, if you ban it, you're acting with the justification of those ideas being wrong and destructive. However if they were bad ideas with no merit, nobody would find them appealing, so you wouldn't have to ban it. You only ban ideas if you're either afraid of them, like how communist countries will ban anything anti communist, or because you object to them on morale grounds, in which case you're assuming that all people are collectively inherently evil/misguided/foolish/etc and will embrace the ideas without objection. And not only is that an awfully pessimistic worldview, it would also imply that people are inherently evil/resentful. And if that were true, a stable society would be functionally impossible, so that doesn't make any sense either. [/QUOTE] You mean like how the US quasi banned sociali-, sorry, I mean, communist ideals? You're basically stating that society could do no wrong and therefore there should be no restrictions on free speech, when in pretty much every freedom we have there are restrictions. [QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;51621440] Moreover, that's assuming that there could be a set of ideas which are inherently evil/destructive/malicious in nature which function in reality better than anything else, which implies reality is an inherently evil place. But seeing as how the best and most well thought out principals, rooted in freedom, expression, individualist values and counter checks on power objectively function the best, all evidence points to reality being mostly benign. So that's another nail in the coffin. [/QUOTE] No, it doesn't imply that reality is an evil place, it implies that some folks are prone to doing evil things without them realising. You're basically arguing at this point that everyone is able to distinguish between good and evil and therefore we don't need any restrictions, when reality proves you wrong. [QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;51621440] And anytime a movement is forcibly put underground, it will no longer be subject to criticism and counter movements from differing viewpoints, which leads to extremism and ideological fermenting, which is how nazism, communism and fascism found traction in the first place. The best cure for bad ideas is daylight. [/QUOTE] Sorry, but that's a blatant lie. Nazism found traction from many things, however, it was never banned or "forcibly put undergrund". Hitler's party, the NSDAP, was treated just like any other party. [QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;51621440]Arguing to ban ideas will never be anything but a tool for ideologically based oppression or unfounded and destructive sophistry. It will never be right and should always be fought.[/QUOTE] You don't ban ideas, you ban their expression.