[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;30699628]There you go [url]http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/4580,news-comment,news-politics,pros-and-cons-gay-adoption[/url]
First hit when search gay adoption arguments. There you got both pros and cons, it's not a walk on sunshine.[/QUOTE]
You disgrace the flag you have beneath your avatar. [url]http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/1522/a/17834[/url]
People like this still exist in a country progressively moving forward
Wowow
[QUOTE=Farrelm;30701998]People like this still exist in a country progressively moving forward
Wowow[/QUOTE]
It's not a progressive as some people make it out to be.
they can't wait to get between one man's ass and another mans cock. I hate the "WHAT WILL THEIR CHILDREN THINK?" argument people like to pull. You have no business telling parents that they're not suitable to raise children if they have never before, or aren't deemed mentally ill (I'm split on that though). I just don't get most social conservatives when it comes to civil rights. They lost on slavery, they lost on black rights, and they will eventually lose on this. I bet 20 years ago this wouldn't be possible to pass in say, NYC.
this is discrimination, they are basically telling you that your love is inferior , or you are inferior person, or that you will be an inferior parent. They don't even know you or your partner. Who gives a shit if it's tradition, you are denying massive amounts of people the same basic rights you enjoy.
[QUOTE=fox '09;30712731]they can't wait to get between one man's ass and another mans cock[/QUOTE]
duh heh heh heh
Can anyone just imagine America under Tea Party leadership? It would take some bizarre circumstances for it to happen, but what if it did?
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;30713254]Can anyone just imagine America under Tea Party leadership? It would take some bizarre circumstances for it to happen, but what if it did?[/QUOTE]
Riots, I hope.
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;30713254]Can anyone just imagine America under Tea Party leadership? It would take some bizarre circumstances for it to happen, but what if it did?[/QUOTE]
It'd be the Christian utopia that our forefathers hoped to create.
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;30691265]I'm merely think about the child itself, it will lose the role models of both sexes, bigger chance to turn gay and due the current society probably be bullied over it.
I also keep remembering a Swedish article of a 8 year old that got adopted from a orphanage, the girl saw all other children leave with a "mother and father" she got two mothers, she didn't know what to say and kept it to herself for several years and developed several issues because of it.
It's just like people keep talking about the adults' rights. But don't actually care, thinking everything will turn out good for the child. I of course still think gay couples should have the same rights, but adoption is another chapter.[/QUOTE]
So it's because of the loss of a role model?
Well then obviously you must think that by extension, single parents should not be allowed to keep kids, and that even if I hate the ever-loving fuck out of my wife I can't divorce her because of the child, which is stupid as shit.
Also why does there [B]HAVE[/B] to be a female or male role model?
I think we all know that people are varied enough that gender doesn't fucking matter when it comes to personality and ability as a role model, so it's not like a woman is bringing anything to the table that a man can't, or vice versa. Plus, if you go by the old timey way of man works and woman stays at home then I've already lost a role model for much of the day. Besides, it's not like you can't find a role model elsewhere if it's so damn important. For example, my role model is not my parents, rather though my teacher.
[editline]25th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;30699628]There you go [url]http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/4580,news-comment,news-politics,pros-and-cons-gay-adoption[/url]
First hit when search gay adoption arguments. There you got both pros and cons, it's not a walk on sunshine.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Children raised by gay parents are offered only one partnership model and are therefore [B](some argue)[/B] more likely to be gay.[/QUOTE]
That fucking thing
I hate when journalists do that shit, they put in stuff like (some argue) so that they can disguise that they are inserting their own fucking opinion. They never say who argues either.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;30686202]No. Long live bi master race[/QUOTE]
Which luckily includes [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale]almost every human on Earth.[/url]
[QUOTE=The golden;30686948]or anything other than a middle-class Caucasian male.[/QUOTE]
What? That's moved to just Upper class...
[editline]26th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=linksysruler;30714196]Which luckily includes [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale]almost every human on Earth.[/url][/QUOTE]
I hate that scale...too many people miss-use it.
[QUOTE=linksysruler;30714196]Which luckily includes [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale]almost every human on Earth.[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm probably 7 on that thing
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;30691265]I'm merely think about the child itself, it will lose the role models of both sexes, bigger chance to turn gay and due the current society probably be bullied over it.
[/QUOTE]
So shall we ban single parents too?
Kids are bullied for all sorts of stupid reasons. Shall be ban fat people from having kids too in case their kids are more likely to be fat and therefore bullied?
In fact as gay marriage and adoption becomes widespread and more normalised the bullying is likely to decrease.
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;30713254]Can anyone just imagine America under Tea Party leadership? It would take some bizarre circumstances for it to happen, but what if it did?[/QUOTE]
Sub-Saharan Africa with fat old white people
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;30713254]Can anyone just imagine America under Tea Party leadership? It would take some bizarre circumstances for it to happen, but what if it did?[/QUOTE]
First of all, everyone would probably get killed because they are communists or socialists, just like in the 60's and then the rest of the world would invade America, kick those nutjobs out and plant the seed of justice there.
Or everyone gets along and we all make love.
[QUOTE=GeneralFredrik;30719013]
Or everyone gets along and we all make love.[/QUOTE]
Dem's fightin' words boy!
[QUOTE=Takkun10;30694138]Whatever happened to separation of church and state.[/QUOTE]
Stupidity.
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;30691265]I'm merely think about the child itself, it will lose the role models of both sexes, [b]bigger chance to turn gay[/b][/QUOTE]
Oh that's right, I completely forgot how stuff like that "turns" people gay. That's why straight parents never have gay kids right?
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;30713254]Can anyone just imagine America under Tea Party leadership? It would take some bizarre circumstances for it to happen, but what if it did?[/QUOTE]
It'd be one very ironic revolution for the Tea Party.
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;30699628]There you go [url]http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/4580,news-comment,news-politics,pros-and-cons-gay-adoption[/url]
First hit when search gay adoption arguments. There you got both pros and cons, it's not a walk on sunshine.[/QUOTE]
While I'm honestly not terribly convinced about gay couples adopting, that is the dumbest list of cons....these are real gems.
[quote]We are a 'Christian' country[/quote]
Like really, pretty obvious what's wrong with that.
[quote]Children raised by gay parents are offered only one partnership model and are therefore (some argue) more likely to be gay.[/quote]
Shouldn't that be fixed to "some morons argue"?..
As for me, the only thing that "bothers" me slightly is the potential of a slightly confusing childhood upbringing, most people are straight or mostly straight, most adopted kids will be too. Just like being gay can be a bit of a confusing experience growing up in a traditional family I could expect it will be a bit strange as a straight kid growing up with gay parents. Statistically this would be the most likely occurrence too.
(gets ready to be flamed for being Homophobic or something...)
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[quote]As a gay adoptive parent, I can only say shame on those of you who would deny a child a loving stable environment. My son is 32 years old, quite heterosexual, well educated and thoroughly well adjusted. We adopted him at the age of 7 from a group home facility. (I volunteered as a tutor there, because my parents adopted two children from the same Catholic agency). It took many years of therapy to help him overcome the emotional and physical abuse that he suffered at the hands of his mother and her many drug-addicted boyfriends. I don't think when he marries and has his own children (he's engaged to a wonderful girl) he will look back on his childhood with us as having been second-rate.[/quote]
Love the one and only comment on that page, heartwarming :)
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;30700013]First point has absolutely nothing to back it up, so void.
Second point pulls the dumbass religion card, so void.
Third point also has nothing to back it up, so void.
Fourth assumes that roman catholic adoption agencies are the only ones out there, so void.
And I'm not even gonna bother with the fifth point. If you don't see how that is not a valid point, you might as well get yourself lobotimised.[/QUOTE]
The fifth point would be funny if it wasn't what passed for logic for these people.
[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;30688136]I've never really understood this stuff about families being crucially important to society.
Besides, if a gay couple get married and (optionally) adopt a child, that sounds like a family to me.[/QUOTE]
I find accepting gay rights very useful for everyone. They are the people who will adopt, thus less orphans. I don't see bad in this?
[QUOTE=KingKombat;30695025]
oh wait, a book written over a thousand years ago when people were still being burned at the stake says it's not okay? this changes everything![/QUOTE]
It's the fault of your stupid ass people, not a book.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;30720627]I find accepting gay rights very useful for everyone. They are the people who will adopt, thus less orphans. I don't see bad in this?[/QUOTE]
Yeah but fags will spread their fag disease and take over America with their shitty designer cloths and evil butt sex!
Why can't these people do the gene pool a favor and get murdered?
[QUOTE=CommieTurtle;30721904]Why can't these people do the gene pool a favor and get murdered?[/QUOTE]
Or maybe pull a Darwin. That way, we can laugh at them in death too.
Anyone seen Sexy Eskimo in this thread lately? He seems to have mysteriously disappeared after posting that terrible excuse of an article.
Tea Party, would you kindly get your heads out of your collective ass?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;30722280]Or maybe pull a Darwin. That way, we can laugh at them in death too.
Anyone seen Sexy Eskimo in this thread lately? He seems to have mysteriously disappeared after posting that terrible excuse of an article.[/QUOTE]
He is crying in the back of ICA while drinking and talking to homophobes.
[QUOTE=Takkun10;30694138]Whatever happened to separation of church and state.[/QUOTE]
I've wondered that, too. Back when there was a big hoopla over having the word "God" in the pledge and kids having prayer in school sporting events/lunch rooms everyone was all "BOOOO SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!" so most places banned it, but when the topic of gay marriage comes up some of the same law-makers are all "NOPE NOPE NOPE NO GAY MARRIAGE PRAAAAAAISE JEEEEEE-SUS!"
I wonder what these idiots will find to complain about next? "Vegetarians are dooming America, ban people from not eating meat!"
[QUOTE=Sweet_Water;30729540]I wonder what these idiots will find to complain about next? "Vegetarians are dooming America, ban people from not eating meat!"[/QUOTE]
Unsurprisingly in the media conservatives have tried to paint vegetarians as people with no spine.
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