• Marijuana Ingredient Can Help Heal Broken Bones, Study Says
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[QUOTE=QuinnithXD;48262966]Little to no industrial use? Have you heard of hemp string/cloth?[/QUOTE] Hemp string/cloth is expensive and usually inferior in quality to alternative products. You wouldn't use it to make most kinds of paper, you wouldn't use it to make most kinds of clothing (cotton is superior by far). Additionally, the economic impact of legalization is usually widely overstated on the assumption that loads of farmers are going to switch to a crop which offers poor profit margins. Hemp (not Marijuana) itself is largely unprofitable for most farmers in the first world.
It's still hypocritical that we allow one plant which causes a whole hosts of diseases as well as mental and physical addiction, we allow an entire host of chemicals which cause aggression and basically dissolve the liver, and yet we don't allow something else which is like a less severe version of the first one with no physical addiction, little mental addiction, and an additional risk of psychosis, despite the latter also having many, many positive benefits. The hypocrisy is unbelievable. Also, don't say booze helps cholesterol, that's just saying that a glass of wine a day is the best thing if you [I]have[/I] to drink every day.
[quote]endocannabinoid system, which regulates a number of physiological processes as well as the skeleton.[/quote] What about emotional skeletons?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;48263060]Hemp string/cloth is expensive and usually inferior in quality to alternative products. You wouldn't use it to make most kinds of paper, you wouldn't use it to make most kinds of clothing (cotton is superior by far). Additionally, the economic impact of legalization is usually widely overstated on the assumption that loads of farmers are going to switch to a crop which offers poor profit margins. Hemp (not Marijuana) itself is largely unprofitable for most farmers in the first world.[/QUOTE] Everything you've said is either a symptom of the fact that it's currently illegal in the first place, or an assumption that since it's not superior to something else it wouldn't be used as an alternative. Hemp doesn't need to be superior to alternatives if it can be made cheaper, or in larger quantities, hemp paper might replace or supplement wood paper to help fight deforestation, hemp clothing will no longer be a gimmick and therefore could become cheaper, farmers might not stop growing other crops in favor of growing nothing but pot, but it's something they could grow alongside other crops for supplemental income. The economic impact has very little to do with farmers in the first place, it's about the DEA's war on drugs and prison and court costs fighting against marijuana as though it's meth which costs an astronomical amount of money each year no longer being a thing leading to better spent funding and the prioritizing of fighting drugs that actually matter. Legalizing marijuana could do literally nothing but good, is the point, even if it's not a literal "miracle plant" it's still pretty amazing in terms of sheer versatility of potential commercial and medicinal uses.
[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;48263301]Everything you've said is either a symptom of the fact that it's currently illegal in the first place, or an assumption that since it's not superior to something else it wouldn't be used as an alternative.[/quote] It's already the case in countries where it is legal. Even if you are allowed to grow and market it, nobody bothers to do so because it's so unprofitable. The Soviet Union used to be the biggest producer of it until they got cotton farming up (because cotton is actually cheaper than hemp). [quote]Hemp doesn't need to be superior to alternatives if it can be made cheaper, or in larger quantities, hemp paper might replace or supplement wood paper to help fight deforestation.[/quote] Hemp paper is extremely expensive and is mainly used for rolling cigars and other niche uses. Also you need a lot more land to grow hemp on than you do trees, and it also needs more chemicals to treat it for paper production than wood pulp (so you aren't doing the environment any favours). [quote]hemp clothing will no longer be a gimmick and therefore could become cheaper[/quote] Lol it'll never beat cotton. [quote]farmers might not stop growing other crops in favor of growing nothing but pot, but it's something they could grow alongside other crops for supplemental income. The economic impact has very little to do with farmers in the first place, it's about the DEA's war on drugs and prison and court costs fighting against marijuana as though it's meth which costs an astronomical amount of money each year no longer being a thing leading to better spent funding and the prioritizing of fighting drugs that actually matter.[/quote] It being illegal is pointless, but it's also pointless to paint it as some miracle plant when the scientific and historical evidence points to it being rather mundane. [quote]Legalizing marijuana could do literally nothing but good, is the point, even if it's not a literal "miracle plant" it's still pretty amazing in terms of sheer versatility of potential commercial and medicinal uses.[/QUOTE] I support legalization, but it's a fact that most of the versatile uses and its potential commercial/medicinal uses are exaggerated or invented. Do you know what most hemp grown in the UK is used for? It's not for clothing or paper or medicine, but for horse bedding lol.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;48261651]Potatoes nearly killed Ireland, if that ain't a miracle then I don't know what is.[/QUOTE] Because of a lack of genetical diversity, which made potatoes more vulnerable to disease and plages. Plus, overdependency.
[video=youtube;W0xHCkOnn-A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0xHCkOnn-A[/video] interesting video
I swear in 10 years or so kids will be taking cannabidiol as supplement like they do with vitamin pills. We'll look back and laugh about how ridiculous it is that Cannabis was once illegal.
marijuana is the graphene of drugs
[QUOTE=QuinnithXD;48262966]Little to no industrial use? Have you heard of hemp string/cloth? Or how about just the fact that legalization alone can EXTRAORDINARILY help with the debt problems around the world? I mean fuck it right lets just keep the drug lords making millions off of something that has no reason to be illegal. PLUS fuck yeah it'll get you high, what's wrong with that?[/QUOTE] Ignoring the fact that hemp cloth is both inferior and more costly than modern alternatives, hemp isn't marijuana. As well, you'll notice I never argued about legalization. If you want to smoke weed, whatever. Go ahead. Not my problem. But don't fucking tout it as a miracle plant that cures everything, because it isn't.
[QUOTE=Paramud;48264196]Ignoring the fact that hemp cloth is both inferior and more costly than modern alternatives, hemp isn't marijuana. As well, you'll notice I never argued about legalization. If you want to smoke weed, whatever. Go ahead. Not my problem. But don't fucking tout it as a miracle plant that cures everything, because it isn't.[/QUOTE] It's not but it does have significant medicinal benefits.
[QUOTE=GunFox;48261588]A plant that is easy to grow, [B]isn't chemically addictive,[/B] is virtually impossible to overdose on, has properties that can supplement or replace analgesics, and can promote appetite even in the face of things like chemo therapy? It also makes decent cordage, has cancer combating properties (we'll say those claims are questionable though), and now apparently can aid in mending broken bones. The side effects for an adult? You eat more and enjoy yourself. No liver or kidney damage. No holes in your stomach. No heart or lung failure. If you smoke it, you fuck up your lungs a bit, though still nothing even approaching the damage done by cigarettes. [B]No addiction[/B] (I'm looking at you, hydrocodone). I do not use marijuana in any capacity, but it is pretty damn close to a miracle plant.[/QUOTE] I'm all for legalization of pot, but people need to stop acting under the impression that it's harmless. Sure, it's one of the safest recreational drugs out there, but it's still a psychoactive substance and it is very possible for addiction to become an issue. As with most other classes of drugs, (such as opiates, like the hydrocodone you just mentioned) the physical damage isn't very prevalent, but your mental health is at risk. Even though it's "just weed", you're still taking in a substance that essentially boosts the happy levels in your brain. For a lot of people, constant use is not exactly a good idea if you're planning on keeping a healthy mental state. Sad to see how anti-drug programs scare kids from doing drugs by telling them about the (exaggerated) physical effects like "Smoking meth/crack will destroy your teeth", when the real danger with taking drugs is risk of mental health and the reality of addiction. If marijuana is to be legalized for recreational use, I really hope there will be more of an emphasis on this. [sp]then again knowing the state of mental health care in places like north america, there probably won't be shit[/sp]
I love how you idiots jump to LEGALIZE YEAH WEED IS GREAT No, they're going to take the substance from the plant and sell it separately. I for one hope it stays banned, any positive elements can be extracted without the hallucinogens and sold separately while it stays a banned substance It's like a bunch of pot smoking idiots jump on any positive marijuana thread and push their agenda. Marijuana is by harmless, it has benefits, which should be extracted and the negatives left with the natural plant. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Tasm;48264335]I love how you idiots jump to LEGALIZE YEAH WEED IS GREAT No, they're going to take the substance from the plant and sell it separately. I for one hope it stays banned, any positive elements can be extracted without the hallucinogens and sold separately while it stays a banned substance[/QUOTE] Why should it be banned? I think you're being ridiculous. It has 0 calories and is essentially harmless in comparison to hard drugs such as alcohol, which can lead to substance abuse.
[QUOTE=isreal?;48264343]Why should it be banned? I think you're being ridiculous. It has 0 calories and is essentially harmless in comparison to hard drugs such as alcohol, which can lead to substance abuse.[/QUOTE] Really? Hard drugs such as alcohol? Bahaha Weed is just as addictive if not more addictive, hell, How do you even compare that? Have you got some source for that or is it some bullshit you made up?
[QUOTE=Tasm;48264369]Really? Hard drugs such as alcohol? Bahaha Weed is just as addicted if not more addictive. How do you even compare that? Have you got some source for that or is it some bullshit you made up?[/QUOTE] How is weed more addictive than alcohol. Citation please. I smoke weed frequently because I enjoy it. I'm not addicted.
[QUOTE=isreal?;48264373]How is weed more addictive than alcohol. Citation please. I smoke weed frequently because I enjoy it. I'm not addicted.[/QUOTE] I said the same if not more, not "more" Besides I asked you for an answer, or was your fact from out of your rectum?
[QUOTE=Tasm;48264369]Really? Hard drugs such as alcohol? Bahaha Weed is just as addictive if not more addictive, hell, How do you even compare that? Have you got some source for that or is it some bullshit you made up?[/QUOTE] when's the last time someone got delirium tremens and died from weed withdrawal
[QUOTE=Tasm;48264382]I said the same if not more, not "more" Besides I asked you for an answer, or was it out of your rectum?[/QUOTE] So basically you're a troll is what you're saying.
[QUOTE=isreal?;48264387]So basically you're a troll is what you're saying.[/QUOTE] I'm saying you can't back up your statement.
[QUOTE=Tasm;48264396]I'm saying you can't back up your statement.[/QUOTE] alcohol can literally kill you if you withdraw from it, i don't understand how you can even begin to compare the two
[QUOTE=Tasm;48264369]Really? Hard drugs such as alcohol? Bahaha Weed is just as addictive if not more addictive. How do you even compare that? Have you got some source for that or is it some bullshit you made up?[/QUOTE] If we do, are you going to actually take the evidence or are you just going to say "kek biased sauce show me the evidence evidence where is the evidence?"
[QUOTE=isreal?;48264387]So basically you're a troll is what you're saying.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=TheHydra;48264400]alcohol can literally kill you if you withdraw from it, i don't understand how you can even begin to compare the two[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Megadave;48264406]If we do, are you going to actually take the evidence or are you just going to say "kek biased sauce show me the evidence evidence where is the evidence?"[/QUOTE] no feeding.
[QUOTE=archangel125;48261387]Hard to make a profit off a miracle plant when you can sell expensive drugs (each with their own host of side-effects) that combat individual problems, rather than having one for a whole load of problems.[/QUOTE] I don't think you realize how profitable a flawless, end all cure to cancer would be. Or HIV, or herpies, etc [editline]21st July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Tasm;48264369]Really? Hard drugs such as alcohol? Bahaha Weed is just as addictive if not more addictive, hell, How do you even compare that? Have you got some source for that or is it some bullshit you made up?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2401691/Mike-Tyson-reveals-alcoholic-close-death.html[/url] [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/04/opinion/mike-tyson-fighting-to-kick-the-habit.html[/url] I know it's just one guy, but alcohol is dangerous shit no matter how anyone puts it
People want marijuana to be this 'miracle' plant so badly that they'll ignore (and most of the time outright deny) any downsides of it and vastly over-emphasise the benefits. Marijuana can worsen depression and other mental illnesses, but hey-ho, 'muh weed'.
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;48264488]People want marijuana to be this 'miracle' plant so badly that they'll ignore (and most of the time outright deny) any downsides of it and vastly over-emphasise the benefits. Marijuana can worsen depression and other mental illnesses, but hey-ho, 'muh weed'.[/QUOTE] The effects depend on the strain. I've never heard of it making somebody depressed. I'm smoking girl scout cookies right now and I feel energised, happy and focused. I have a sports injury and it is helping me with the pain as well.
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;48264488]People want marijuana to be this 'miracle' plant so badly that they'll ignore (and most of the time outright deny) any downsides of it and vastly over-emphasise the benefits. Marijuana can worsen depression and other mental illnesses, but hey-ho, 'muh weed'.[/QUOTE] That is because there is no "one size fits all" weed. You have to do research into the different strains and what they do.
[QUOTE=isreal?;48264498]The effects depend on the strain. I've never heard of it making somebody depressed. I'm smoking girl scout cookies right now and I feel energised, happy and focused. I have a sports injury and it is helping me with the pain as well.[/QUOTE] Regardless of you hearing about it or not it can make depressed people more depressed Shit effects people differently
[QUOTE=isreal?;48264302]It's not but it does have significant medicinal benefits.[/QUOTE] Significant is an exaggeration.
[QUOTE=Paramud;48264970]Significant is an exaggeration.[/QUOTE] How so? It allows me to stop using beta blockers for anxiety. That's pretty significant. It allows people undergoing chemo to actually have an appetite. It relieves pain and suffering. It can reduce seizures in people with epilepsy. All 100% naturally. Its cheaply available, easily grown and ingested. I'd rather use Marijuana than expensive pharmaceuticals. Not to mention that it relives Insomnia; and a large percentage of the population could benefit from a full 8 hours sleep.
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