[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51850225]Do tell us more how he isn't defending pedophilia by defending relationships between 13 year old boys and older men.[/QUOTE]
Well for one 13 year old is not pre-pubescent, so it's not pedophilia.
It is [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty]pederasty[/url] though, which hasn't been a socially accepted practice for like 2000+ years. He makes a point (or tries to at least) that the practice is still common in the American homosexual community due to the frequent rejection of homosexuals from their home.
Whether or not you agree with him is a different thing (I don't, for the record, relying on pederasty as a band-aid solution to a social problem is dumb as shit), but what he condones is not pedophilia. That's just an uneducated simplification that doesn't need to be made.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51850225]Do tell us more how he isn't defending pedophilia by defending relationships between 13 year old boys and older men.[/QUOTE]
strictly speaking pedophillia is the condition of an attraction to prepubescent children not the actual act which is child abuse.
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51850287]strictly speaking pedophillia is the condition of an attraction to prepubescent children not the actual act which is child abuse.[/QUOTE]
Ok, so he's defending child abuse. All the gold-star pedophiles who never act on their urges breathe a sigh of relief, but Milo's still in the shit for advocating relationships with minors.
[QUOTE=gk99;51850201]Tbf though consent is arbitrary and oppressive, at least in the US. If you have two 17 year olds dating, and one is one day older than the other, the one day that the older one is 18 and the younger one is 17 is a day where it's illegal for the older one to commit any sexual act because they're an adult and the other is a minor.
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That's not how the law works at all, bud. The age is not arbitrary.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;51850337]That's not how the law works at all, bud. The age is not arbitrary.[/QUOTE]
Being the law doesn't make it not arbitrary, it means the arbitrary value has legal weight. Find me an objective basis for determining the age of consent. I'll wait.
Edit: And I should point out that not every state has laws that protect young couples in the scenario described.
last thread about this guy I said something about his act didn't add up, he does act exactly like one of those christian people who believe they can be straight through jesus, just with a liberachi twist to it
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51850261]Well for one 13 year old is not pre-pubescent, so it's not pedophilia.
It is [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty]pederasty[/url] though, which hasn't been a socially accepted practice for like 2000+ years. He makes a point (or tries to at least) that the practice is still common in the American homosexual community due to the frequent rejection of homosexuals from their home.
Whether or not you agree with him is a different thing (I don't, for the record, relying on pederasty as a band-aid solution to a social problem is dumb as shit), but what he condones is not pedophilia. That's just an uneducated simplification that doesn't need to be made.[/QUOTE]
Well thanks for clearing that up now I know hes only condoning statutory rape instead, what relief.
You know, if this was about lowering the age of consent to something like 16 or 17, that would at least be reasonable, but 13 year olds? Seriously?
Milo is probably going to find a way to weasel himself out of this, considering how many people he has lined up to defend him until they're on their knees, but this is definitely going to taint his reputation more than the protests or anything else.
He's not gonna go away, but this is gonna fuck him pretty bad. And that's a pretty good thing.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;51850337]That's not how the law works at all, bud. The age is not arbitrary.[/QUOTE]
The age of consent is literally an arbitrary measure, though ? It generalizes something that will by definition change with every individual.
Besides, lower age of consent typically exists to allow younger people to have sex with each other without being in a legally unclear area and potentially risk committing a crime when there was none. It doesn't exist to allow older men and women to fuck teenagers, that's just a side-effect that usually is dealt with by means of statutory rape.
[editline]20th February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=duckmaster;51850389]Well thanks for clearing that up now I know hes only condoning statutory rape instead, what relief.[/QUOTE]
Hey, I think it's an important difference to make. Putting everything in one handbasket is bound to make you run short at some point.
[editline]20th February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51850414]You know, if this was about lowering the age of consent to something like 16 or 17, that would at least be reasonable, but 13 year olds? Seriously?
Milo is probably going to find a way to weasel himself out of this, considering how many people he has lined up to defend him until they're on their knees, but this is definitely going to taint his reputation more than the protests or anything else.
He's not gonna go away, but this is gonna fuck him pretty bad. And that's a pretty good thing.[/QUOTE]
Age of consent in a whole bunch of European countries is 14, sometimes 15, and that's fine in my opinion. Teens gonna fuck no matter what, if you want to prevent older people from abusing younger age of consent just consolidate your statutory rape laws.
And having a lower age of consent does not immediately make it socially okay for a 30 year old to fuck a 14 year old.
[QUOTE=meek;51850135]I did. You are misinterpreting what he says in a mix of bad wording and willingness to believe he is some kind of monster. Some helpful context most people happily skip to favour their pre determined conclusions about Milo:
You can find more here [url]https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/posts/851263248344905[/url][/QUOTE]
yeah i dont know about using milo himself as a source to "what he actually meant", it's not like he can't bullshit out an excuse to save face
what he said is fully recorded on video with context, there's no "what he actually meant", it's all there.
Yeah. Really seems like he just says w/e to be provocative. He is a professional troll, and even by pointing this out we are feeding into his desire for attention. I wish we could just stop giving him attention and just move on.
just when i thought Milo could not actually get worse, oh my fucking god
[QUOTE=Dracon;51850165]Meek, why are you defending a bag of shit?
Bags of shot don't need defending, they can do it on their own.[/QUOTE]
Everyone deserves defense. If someone feels that accusations being leveled against another person are not accurate, they are completely in the right to defend the truth.
You're assuming that the accusations are true when you complain about him defending a "bag of shit". They seem to be true, sure, but if someone disagrees with their truthful nature, they're not "defending a bag of shit". They're defending the truth.
I heard him the other day talking about how the left's next agenda would be pushing pedophile acceptance and here he is splitting hairs because to him puberty = maturity. What a kook.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;51850718]I heard him the other day talking about how the left's next agenda would be pushing pedophile acceptance and here he is splitting hairs because to him puberty = maturity. What a kook.[/QUOTE]
trans bathroom rights will will be a slippery slope to legalising paedophilia and that's bad, but ignoring that I should be allowed to fuck children .t milo pedanopulos
my patience for him has worn quite thin
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51850414]You know, if this was about lowering the age of consent to something like 16 or 17, that would at least be reasonable, but 13 year olds? Seriously?
Milo is probably going to find a way to weasel himself out of this, considering how many people he has lined up to defend him until they're on their knees, but this is definitely going to taint his reputation more than the protests or anything else.
He's not gonna go away, but this is gonna fuck him pretty bad. And that's a pretty good thing.[/QUOTE]
he has a legion of unquestioning fans who are desperate for any kind of validation that he doesn't even have to weasel out of it, they'll do it for him by just denying fucking reality as Kigen demonstrated.
His book just got cancelled
Milo's such a scumfuck. I'm 100% in favor of relaxing some of our ridiculous sex offender laws in the US, but there's no excuse for this shit. If a 13-year-old boy wants to send naked pictures to his 15-year-old girlfriend, or vice versa, I don't think anybody should be charged as adults for manufacturing child porn. That's relaxing outdated and harmful sex offender regulations and there's room for reasonable debate about how to foster healthy pubescent sexuality. But if a 13-year-old kid sends naked pictures to their 43-year-old neighbor, or vice versa, the assumption [I]should[/I] be that the younger person either didn't know what they were doing or that they were coaxed into it - and if the adult wasn't complicit at all, nobody should be on a sex offender list. When you're that young, yes, you are physically capable of having sex, but you are [I]absolutely not[/I] mentally and socially knowledgeable enough to even partially understand the implications and repercussions of your actions.
If you take that one step further and say a 13-year-old kid should be allowed to [I]consent to sex with someone three times their age[/I], hold the fuck up. Yes, consent is arbitrarily defined. But the reason we've arbitrarily set it where we have is because, by the time people are in their upper teens, they (ideally) have developed a general sense of social awareness and knowledge about sex. Their brains have literally grown denser and they're [I]far[/I] more capable of reasonable decision-making. Barely pubescent pre-teens are not.
Milo's saying that it should be okay for a 40-year-old to "coach" a 13-year-old about how to have anal sex and suck dick, so that they have a ""healthy sexual development."" That's fucking absurd. The point to age of consent laws isn't whether or not you're [I]physically[/I] capable of launching sperm out of your dickhole, it's whether or not you're [I]mentally[/I] capable to make reasonable and measured judgments about sex. A 13-year-old, even with very comprehensive sex education, doesn't have the rational decision-making ability and the sense of social awareness to say "hey maybe I shouldn't take the condom off because it feels better."
This man needs psychiatric help.
[QUOTE=1239the;51850910]he has a legion of unquestioning fans who are desperate for any kind of validation that he doesn't even have to weasel out of it, they'll do it for him by just denying fucking reality as Kigen demonstrated.[/QUOTE]
I think the only reason why Kigen's defending Milo is because MundaneMatt and whoever else told him that he should. That sort of youtube channel tends to produce this weird proxy-Breitbart audience, often unintentionally, due to the way news tends to spread among them.
the age of consent is arbitrary in much the same way that the speed limits are arbitrary
[QUOTE=Turnips5;51851104]the age of consent is arbitrary in much the same way that the speed limits are arbitrary[/QUOTE]
Speed limits aren't a great comparison here because they kind of are set arbitrarily.
[QUOTE=Crumpet;51849924]lets just watch the uncut video then
[media]https://twitter.com/reaganbattalion/status/833485040944156673[/media]
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This clip sounds like something a person whom was sexually abused at a young age might say, which we know Milo was. I am surprised that Facepunch of all places would attack Milo for having this warped opinion that he most likely developed after being the victim of sexual assault.
[QUOTE=IAmIchigo;51851123]This clip sounds like something a person whom was sexually abused at a young age might say, which we know Milo was. I am surprised that Facepunch of all places would attack Milo for having this warped opinion that he most likely developed after being the victim of sexual assault.[/QUOTE]
Sod off.
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[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51851133]Sod off.[/QUOTE]
Have you watched the whole video?
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51851120]Speed limits aren't a great comparison here because they kind of are set arbitrarily.[/QUOTE]
and yet they save lives
sure they can be abused and shit but nobody's seriously arguing we should repeal speed limits
[QUOTE=IAmIchigo;51851123]This clip sounds like something a person whom was sexually abused at a young age might say, which we know Milo was. I am surprised that Facepunch of all places would attack Milo for having this warped opinion that he most likely developed after being the victim of sexual assault.[/QUOTE]
He's absolutely a victim of sexual assault and I have no doubt that his warped worldview is a result of that. Nobody's attacking him for being sexually assaulted, we're attacking him for his opinion that [I]it should be okay to sexually groom thirteen year olds[/I]. To draw a parallel, if a woman develops mental health issues because she experienced abuse as a child, and she later develops the opinion that all men should be forcibly castrated, her abuse doesn't [I]justify[/I] that opinion and it doesn't stop people from calling that opinion out for being dumb. That goes [I]triple[/I] for public figures who have a platform to spread those ideas.
There's just the blatant irony of Milo spouting on and on about "leftist victimhood" and how being a victim doesn't entitle you to anything, and now he's standing there saying "I was a child abuse victim so it's okay for me to advocate sexual grooming of children." I don't really care that he was a victim - it doesn't give his opinion any extra validity - he should be the [I]first person[/I] to say that.
[QUOTE=IAmIchigo;51851123]This clip sounds like something a person whom was sexually abused at a young age might say, which we know Milo was. I am surprised that Facepunch of all places would attack Milo for having this warped opinion that he most likely developed after being the victim of sexual assault.[/QUOTE]
People might have more compassion for him if he wasn't such a ginormous dildo that he makes the worst thing on bad-dragon look like a toothpick tbh.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;51851167]He's absolutely a victim of sexual assault and I have no doubt that his warped worldview is a result of that. Nobody's attacking him for being sexually assaulted, we're attacking him for his opinion that [I]it should be okay to sexually groom thirteen year olds[/I]. To draw a parallel, if a woman develops mental health issues because she experienced abuse as a child, and she later develops the opinion that all men should be forcibly castrated, her abuse doesn't [I]justify[/I] that opinion and it doesn't stop people from calling that opinion out for being dumb. That goes [I]triple[/I] for public figures who have a platform to spread those ideas.
There's just the blatant irony of Milo spouting on and on about "leftist victimhood" and how being a victim doesn't entitle you to anything, and now he's standing there saying "I was a child abuse victim so it's okay for me to advocate sexual grooming of children." I don't really care that he was a victim - it doesn't give his opinion any extra validity - he should be the [I]first person[/I] to say that.[/QUOTE]
He hasn't called himself a victim, people defending him are pointing out that he is a victim of sexual assault, which he disagrees with and says that it was a consensual relationship.
He doesn't just "pull the victim card" and when he says that people are pulling the victim card he is referencing people who will cry victim after starting an argument.
When people on here say he is pulling the victim card its after events like Berkeley where people are fucking attacked and he was forced to leave by police.
Milo has condoned and encouraged some pretty damned horrendous life shattering harassment. Him pulling the victim card out now is just going to fall on deaf ears.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;51851211]Milo has condoned and encouraged some pretty damned horrendous life shattering harassment. Him pulling the victim card out now is just going to fall on deaf ears.[/QUOTE]
Where has he encouraged harassment. Every time people ask why he condones harassment he says he doesn't and that he thinks its disgusting so...
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