House Democrats look at taxing the rich for health care - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Chippay;15948310]clearly losing this earth-shattering internet deathmatch has left you delusional kaffir[/QUOTE] this injustice will not stand, we will amass an army to crush the blasphemers to the east

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;15948286]Liberals are such rude people.[/QUOTE] By definition they're conservative with pretty, idealistic packaging.

[QUOTE=Chippay;15948150]no prob bro maybe you should go to a better forum (like lf on something awful that's pretty good)[/QUOTE] I would but it seems like some sort of exclusive club you'll get flamed out of if you dare to post; I just lurk in order to keep a perspective

[QUOTE=HK-100;15948186]Single payer system is just a glorified health insurance. You seem to think that government should have a monopoly on healthcare, and that it's the only solution.[/QUOTE] Did he actually say this explicitly? [QUOTE=HK-100;15948186]Either way, I'm not not going to go into detail about the auto industry because I don't have the information to make a judgement.[/QUOTE] Conceding ignorance doesn't help your cause much. [QUOTE=HK-100;15948186]I'm not goign be sohpomoric about it either and argue through links.[/QUOTE] Except you just conceded ignorance on the topic, and can't actually prove any of the contents of said links is wrong. So it isn't really "sophomoric" unless we know the links were bullshit, and...we don't, because you surrendered. [QUOTE=HK-100;15948186]The big picture remains: GM has filed for bankruptcy protection, and one with common sense would not take their advice.[/QUOTE] Argument against the point beats argument against the source.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15948318]this injustice will not stand, we will amass an army to crush the blasphemers to the east[/QUOTE] the sultan and custodian to the two heavenly mosques will never be dethroned by your rabble of defeated kaffers seeking revenge over your monumental defeat

[QUOTE=HK-100;15948326]By definition they're conservative with pretty, idealistic packaging.[/QUOTE] Speaking of conservatives with pretty and idealistic packaging...

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;15948339]Did he actually say this explicitly? Conceding ignorance doesn't help your cause much. Except you just conceded ignorance on the topic, and can't actually prove any of the contents of said links is wrong. So it isn't really "sophomoric" unless we know the links were bullshit, and...we don't, because you surrendered. Argument against the point beats argument against the source.[/QUOTE] I don't think a transcript between Wagoner and a congresswoman from a hearing is bullshit information

[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;15948335]I would but it seems like some sort of exclusive club you'll get flamed out of if you dare to post; I just lurk in order to keep a perspective[/QUOTE] only if you post something stupid most of the time but you got to roll with the punches i post a bit but usually only when i have something to contribute

[QUOTE=Chippay;15948351]the sultan and custodian to the two heavenly mosques will never be dethroned by your rabble of defeated kaffers seeking revenge over your monumental defeat[/QUOTE] prepare your rectum for jihad

[QUOTE=Chippay;15946237]hey canuhear me you're a terrible person btw[/QUOTE] I don't fucking care, if I earned the money, I should be allowed to spend it however I want, whether it be philanthropy or whores and blow.

[QUOTE=Chippay;15948374]only if you post something stupid most of the time but you got to roll with the punches i post a bit but usually only when i have something to contribute[/QUOTE] maybe some other time I wouldn't have anything to contribute anyway other than "yes" and "no"

[QUOTE=Lankist;15947801]If you want something to go into law, it needs fact. You cannot enforce an opinion.[/QUOTE] Law is flawed

[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;15948415]maybe some other time I wouldn't have anything to contribute anyway other than "yes" and "no"[/QUOTE] the magic of the empty quote throw your opinion in man it's not a big deal the vast majority of the time

[QUOTE=RAG Frag;15948455]Law is flawed[/QUOTE] Cool.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15948393]prepare your rectum for jihad[/QUOTE] the defeated shall remain defeated in the name of allah the most merciful and kind this internet argument and your sky-tearing defeat shall live in infamy forever

[QUOTE=Lankist;15948467]Cool.[/QUOTE] I know right. Also fuck the rich they do nothing

[QUOTE=RAG Frag;15948455]Law is flawed[/QUOTE] From a person who's taken Mock Trial for two years, I'll tell you it's not. The case we had involved us allowing an illegal immigrant to do something that, for all moral reasons shouldn't, simply because the group (the school) was discriminating her based on legal status.

Goddamn liberals. You fucking pay for what you get. If you worked for the money, you don't fucking tax to pay for someone else's shit.

[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;15948308]sorry for bringing sources, I didn't know citations were sophomoric[/quote] Only if you're using them as euphemisms for extrapolation. [quote] the big picture is that GM filed for bankruptcy protection in part because of the burdening cost of employee healthcare; Wagoner said that single payer would help level the playing field in the industry and make American cars competitive (because they could be cheaper etc etc read for yourself :smile:) [/quote] Ad Nauseam [quote] since you admitted you can't make a judgment because you don't have the information maybe you could :dogout:[/QUOTE] Latching onto what is convenient eh? I never knew obligation and healthcare were exclusive to the auto industry. The things we learn today.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;15948500]From a person who's taken Mock Trial for two years, I'll tell you it's not. The case we had involved us allowing an illegal immigrant to do something that, for all moral reasons shouldn't, simply because the group (the school) was discriminating her based on legal status.[/QUOTE] That's kinda like what I do except what I do is real.

Just here to say keep on keepin on.

[QUOTE=It.;15948511]Goddamn liberals. You fucking pay for what you get. If you worked for the money, you don't fucking tax to pay for someone else's shit.[/QUOTE] then who would pay for police/fire departments, schools, highways, roads, bridges, the military, libraries, parks, sewers, etc have you thought this through; healthcare, just like all the services listed above, don't belong to "someone else", they belong to everyone and everyone benefits from them :smile:

Why are Americans against a public health system? Is it a good thing to have someone save your life, then present a bill afterwards?

So if i make money it should be taken away from me and given to someone who doesn't. Because i'm successful and they're not i should lose money. NO it's fucking stupid. My money shouldn't be taken away and given to someone who didn't earn it or doesn't work hard enough for it. If you believe people get rich because they exploit others you are WRONG. Very few large business exploit people, and they always suffer for it in the end. Lets say i make 3 million a year, i already lose 1 million of that to regular taxes. Now i have to lose another million of that to pay for people who don't make money or people who don't want to work. If i earn money why should i lose it to someone who doesn't and didn't earn it.

[QUOTE=IronPhoenix;15948569]Why are Americans against a public health system? Is it a good thing to have someone save your life, then present a bill afterwards?[/QUOTE] Yes. [editline]06:41PM[/editline] FYI we've tripled our debt in one year already.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15948526]That's kinda like what I do except what I do is real.[/QUOTE] What DO you do, anyway, I picture you as a curmudgeon, personally.

[QUOTE=Gunner th;15948590] If you believe people get rich because they exploit others you are WRONG. Very few large business exploit people, and they always suffer for it in the end. .[/QUOTE] hahahahahab[B]hahahHAHAHAHAHAA[/B] seriously hahahaha what the fuck is this

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;15948645]What DO you do, anyway, I picture you as a curmudgeon, personally.[/QUOTE] It's classified. [editline]06:44PM[/editline] I could tell you but I'd have to kill you

[QUOTE=Chippay;15948659]hahahahahab[B]hahahHAHAHAHAHAA[/B] seriously hahahaha what the fuck is this[/QUOTE] No matter what, you will exploit someone, are you recommending people stop getting rich because it would hurt someone?

[QUOTE=Gunner th;15948590]So if i make money it should be taken away from me and given to someone who doesn't. Because i'm successful and they're not i should lose money. NO it's fucking stupid. My money shouldn't be taken away and given to someone who didn't earn it or doesn't work hard enough for it. If you believe people get rich because they exploit others you are WRONG. [B]Very few large business exploit people, and they always suffer for it in the end.[/B] Lets say i make 3 million a year, i already lose 1 million of that to regular taxes. Now i have to lose another million of that to pay for people who don't make money or people who don't want to work. If i earn money why should i lose it to someone who doesn't and didn't earn it.[/QUOTE] that is a very big thing to claim and you shouldn't have said it healthcare just like all the shit I posted earlier is a public good and doesn't belong to any one individual (like libraries, schools etc) so I don't get why you are so opposed to single payer as I ASSUME you enjoy having a large standing army and a fire department ready to come save you if there is a fire?