House Democrats look at taxing the rich for health care - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Lankist;15952352]. [editline]10:36PM[/editline] Maybe YOU haven't earned jack shit in your life, but I and many others have, and we don't need people like you telling us we have an obligation to help people who haven't done jack shit.[/QUOTE] I've been 18 for only a month now and the summer jobs I've had before weren't much, so I can't use myself as an example. My Father I can. That man has works two jobs and the only time I ever saw him was on Sundays and late at night. He's STILL below the poverty line. It works both ways. There are stupid poor people who don't work just as there is stupid rich people who don't work. Lolbertarian logic on defining rich and poor is basically ALL generalizations. Including yours. Again, I love the logic of libertarians. Rich = strong, hard working and intelligent Poor = stupid, lazy and never worked a day in their life. The fact you're trying to argue this is sad. [QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;15952204]It's not a right.[/QUOTE] Neither is Police, firefighters, libraries, etc. But you people wouldn't protest a god damn thing. That's superficial. The definition of healthcare is a service provided to people Defining it as a labour ONLY is ridiculous. It's a service made up of labour. Defining something by what keeps it going is pretty much cherry picking.

[QUOTE=Chippay;15952530]well at least it's nothing like the non-stop comedy your arguments have been nice to see you pretending to ascribe racism to me though, even when you have something you can't deal with what's actually being presented[/QUOTE] Well given you sit here profiling a person you don't know, and attributing bullshit like "no understanding of human rights" to me because of your preconceived notions that I am a white, christian Republican, that's pretty fucking racist. And the fact that now you're all on the defensive about it just confirms it. You had that "WHITE DUDE ITT" shit in your sleeve the whole time like it's some kind of insta-win card or something. And when you're least expecting it, BAM! Race card! [editline]10:48PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Trotsky;15952580]I've been 18 for only a month now and the summer jobs I've had before weren't much, so I can't use myself as an example. My Father I can. That man has works two jobs and the only time I ever saw him was on Sundays and late at night. He's STILL below the poverty line. It works both ways. There are stupid poor people who don't work just as there is stupid rich people who don't work. Lolbertarian logic on defining rich and poor is basically ALL generalizations. Including yours. Again, I love the logic of libertarians. Rich = strong, hard working and intelligent Poor = stupid, lazy and never worked a day in their life. The fact you're trying to argue this is sad. That's superficial. The definition of healthcare is a service provided to people Defining it as a labour ONLY is ridiculous. It's a service made up of labour. Defining something by what keeps it going is pretty much cherry picking.[/QUOTE] You're saying the exact same shit Chippay did. Quick call me white.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;15952451]What does race have to do with this? And I don't think Lankist is a Christian. :downs:[/QUOTE] btw race has everything to do with this issue, even though it's not as relevant as i hoped to lankist himself

[QUOTE=Lankist;15952457]I'm a fucking Mexican Atheist. Dude is just embarrassing himself.[/QUOTE] You're a Mexican Atheist? Part of me is surprised, and the other part knew it all along.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;15952580] Lolbertarian logic on defining rich and poor is basically ALL generalizations. Including yours. [/QUOTE] you can't say that word that's me and conscripts word!

[QUOTE=thisispain;15952629]you can't say that word that's me and conscripts word![/QUOTE] Faggot?

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;15952621]You're a Mexican Atheist? Part of me is surprised, and the other part knew it all along.[/QUOTE] You can't call me angry it's just a latin temper. [QUOTE=Chippay;15952620]btw race has everything to do with this issue, even though it's not as relevant as i hoped to lankist himself[/QUOTE] Now you trollin. As though race defines work ethic and political ideology. That because I'm talking about working my ass off means I'm white. What, you think Mexicans can't be proud of themselves for working hard? What kind of whacky racist thing are you going to say next?

[QUOTE=Lankist;15952593]Well given you sit here profiling a person you don't know, and attributing bullshit like "no understanding of human rights" to me because of your preconceived notions that I am a white, christian Republican, that's pretty fucking racist. And the fact that now you're all on the defensive about it just confirms it. You had that "WHITE DUDE ITT" shit in your sleeve the whole time like it's some kind of insta-win card or something. And when you're least expecting it, BAM! Race card! [/QUOTE] that's not bullshit, and i documented how it isn't. it's exceedingly clear from what you've posted. but i'm loving how in your mind this is something about racism, rather than the opportunities given to white people within the united states [editline]02:51AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;15952593] You're saying the exact same shit Chippay did. Quick call me white.[/QUOTE] shit, not only do you ignore his argument, you bring me in do you have a crush on me? i'm not used to these latino come-on lines

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;15952621]You're a Mexican Atheist? Part of me is surprised, and the other part knew it all along.[/QUOTE] how does that work you can either be surprised or know it all along unless you are schizophrenic in that case, both of you can fuck off nah, don't fuck off, i was just waiting to use that for a while

[QUOTE=Trotsky;15952580]Again, I love the logic of libertarians. Rich = strong, hard working and intelligent Poor = stupid, lazy and never worked a day in their life.[/QUOTE] That's more like a douchebag's condensed version of objectivism than anything. [QUOTE=Trotsky;15952580]That's superficial.[/QUOTE] And trying to sugarcoat it is fallacious.

[QUOTE=Chippay;15952662]that's not bullshit, and i documented how it isn't. it's exceedingly clear from what you've posted. but i'm loving how in your mind this is something about racism, rather than the opportunities given to white people within the united states [editline]02:51AM[/editline] shit, not only do you ignore his argument, you bring me in do you have a crush on me? i'm not used to these latino come-on lines[/QUOTE] This discussion stopped being serious when you started pulling the race shit. You're just making an absolute fool of yourself now.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;15952648]Faggot?[/QUOTE] lolbertarian

And I'm having SO MUCH fun with it I swear, I'm shaking

[QUOTE=Chippay;15952662] shit, not only do you ignore his argument, you bring me in do you have a crush on me? i'm not used to these latino come-on lines[/QUOTE] wait

[QUOTE=Lankist;15952657] Now you trollin. As though race defines work ethic and political ideology. That because I'm talking about working my ass off means I'm white. What, you think Mexicans can't be proud of themselves for working hard? What kind of whacky racist thing are you going to say next?[/QUOTE] gunna be honest here i've been trolling all along the only time i even pretend to make an argument i use all caps to prevent idiots like boba fett from using their imaginary instant comebacks you're ignoring what i'm saying though. being white in the united states is a benefit all in itself, as many studies demonstrate

[QUOTE=thisispain;15952671]how does that work you can either be surprised or know it all along unless you are schizophrenic in that case, both of you can fuck off nah, don't fuck off, i was just waiting to use that for a while[/QUOTE] I'm a White, Republican Christian, there are enough problems with me as is. [editline]10:53PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;15952706]And I'm having SO MUCH fun with it [B]I swear, I'm shaking[/B][/QUOTE] :q:

[QUOTE=Lankist;15952695]This discussion stopped being serious when you started pulling the race shit. You're just making an absolute fool of yourself now.[/QUOTE] if you think the discussion between me and yourself has ever been even bordering on "serious" you're seriously overestimating my contributions here almost as much as you're overestimating how much you can get from an imaginary "racist" designation

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;15952734]I'm a White, Republican Christian, there are enough problems with me as is.[/QUOTE] oh snap got a self-hating white here, aren't you original

[QUOTE=margerine_12;15941498]Be that as it may, it doesn't seem fair that the successful that spend thousands of dollars on education and work every day have to pay for the people who don't take opportunities to educate and support themselves.[/QUOTE] Personal experience knows this is absolute bullshit. People can and will get fucked over.

if you're looking for someone making a fool out of himself, you could just look at you ignoring trotsky's argument in favour of a personal attack. you might remember decrying that several hours ago yourself, lankist. oh, how much of a difference a few hours can make good job breaking my automerge JERKS

[QUOTE=Chippay;15952722]gunna be honest here i've been trolling all along the only time i even pretend to make an argument i use all caps to prevent idiots like boba fett from using their imaginary instant comebacks you're ignoring what i'm saying though. being white in the united states is a benefit all in itself, as many studies demonstrate[/QUOTE] See, that just looks like you're trying to cover your ass for saying racist shit.

[QUOTE=thisispain;15952752]oh snap got a self-hating white here, aren't you original[/QUOTE] As original as the self-hating Jew I knew a couple years ago.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;15952822]As original as the self-hating Jew I knew a couple years ago.[/QUOTE] oh shit, you knew woody allen

[QUOTE=Lankist;15952801]See, that just looks like you're trying to cover your ass for saying racist shit.[/QUOTE] ah yes, my imagined racism towards my own race you got me fair and square lankist, i hate white people white people are the devil they infected continents polluted countries and are the reason the world is so bad you got me fair and square i hate white people 100% come on lankist, if you intentionally misinterpret what i say even more we can be discussing how i've been planning the white genocide for years

[QUOTE=Chippay;15952834]ah yes, my imagined racism towards my own race you got me fair and square lankist, i hate white people white people are the devil they infected continents polluted countries and are the reason the world is so bad you got me fair and square i hate white people 100%[/QUOTE] No I'm talking about racism against Mexicans. You seem to think Mexicans are incapable of being members of a worker's party and speaking about proper work ethic. You even said that you're disappointed about how my race isn't helping your argument. That's bullshit, dude. That's legit racism. Nobody even mentioned race. I'm just talking about proper work ethic and you just assume I'm Middle Class, White and Christian. You're attributing pride and work ethic to a single race, as though other races are incapable. You brought this up. I want answers.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15952427]Maybe you should get out a little more often rather than having circle jerks with other people who agree with you. That, and stop spewing rhetoric at people who you aren't even listening to.[/QUOTE] I was going post this earlier: "I'm not trying to call you stupid Lankist, just that your style of debating is terrible" But decided against it. Ad Hominids instead of a rebuttal? Come on. I'm not trying to call you stupid Lankist, just that your style of debating is terrible [QUOTE=Lankist;15952444]How dare they question why the country keeps fucking them over. Bunch of ungrateful bastards, why don't they work hard and become smart, then they'll MAGICALLY become rich. Because that's how reality works right?[/QUOTE] Basically what I'm seeing. [QUOTE=Canuhearme?;15952480]Are you really saying that most people who are well off didn't get good grades, go to a good college, and work for their money? Rich people aren't as monolithic as that.[/QUOTE] You really think it's far off for people to be born into wealth? [QUOTE=thisispain;15952520]No, that's not libertarian at all... what are you doing[/QUOTE] Alright, then it's Lankist mindset. Also, You're about as libertarian as Bill Maher. (<3) [QUOTE=thisispain;15952629]you can't say that word that's me and conscripts word![/QUOTE] Mr. Gruffin exposed me to it... [QUOTE=Xenocidebot;15952678]That's more like a douchebag's condensed version of objectivism than anything.[/QUOTE] In that case, Lankist is douche bag objectivist. [QUOTE=Chippay;15952530] you always go too far man, you either ignore something entirely, reach for something that isn't there, or say something uniquely stupid[/QUOTE] This. I love how Lankist only debates properly when it's over something ridiculous as this.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15952877]No I'm talking about racism against Mexicans. You seem to think Mexicans are incapable of being members of a worker's party and speaking about proper work ethic. You even said that you're disappointed about how my race isn't helping your argument. That's bullshit, dude. That's legit racism.[/QUOTE] is that honestly what you think i'm saying? jesus christ arguing non-stop for the last [B]eight hours[/B] must be fucking with your eyes re-read what i've said, champ, and then take a god damn break fuck

[QUOTE=Lankist;15952877]No I'm talking about racism against Mexicans. You seem to think Mexicans are incapable of being members of a worker's party and speaking about proper work ethic. You even said that you're disappointed about how my race isn't helping your argument. That's bullshit, dude. That's legit racism. Nobody even mentioned race. I'm just talking about proper work ethic and you just assume I'm Middle Class, White and Christian. You're attributing pride and work ethic to a single race, as though other races are incapable. You brought this up. I want answers.[/QUOTE] fuck that's brilliant

[quote]I am upper middle class and I would rather have someone die then not be able to get a new car for my 18th birthday and take my hot girlfriend on a trip to all the hottest exotic locations[/quote] shit guys its the red menace. edit: the ones who are not just fuckin with the people in this thread and who are actually rich assholes should be denied a life saving operation to see how it feels.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15952877] You're attributing pride and work ethic to a single race, as though other races are incapable. You brought this up. I want answers.[/QUOTE] uh, no i'm not where the fuck did you get that from