House Democrats look at taxing the rich for health care - Polidicks

From what I saw you're insisting that every poor person is a fucking bum if they can't get of poverty When you're in poverty, you're in a vicious circle [editline]11:46PM[/editline] From what I saw you're insisting that every poor person is a fucking bum if they can't get of poverty When you're in poverty, you're in a vicious circle

[QUOTE=doommarine23;16148768]From what I saw you're insisting that every poor person is a fucking bum if they can't get of poverty When you're in poverty, you're in a vicious circle[/QUOTE] Yes because you know so much about growing up in poverty. [editline]11:47PM[/editline] And I don't know the first thing because I'm a white christian from a high-class family, right Chippay?

[QUOTE=Lankist;16148729] Do you consider yourself BETTER than poor people? It is a yes or no question. Mr. "I'm leaving."[/QUOTE] Seeing as I never implied I was or made an argument pertaining myself above them; I'm not answering.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16148780]Yes because you know so much about growing up in poverty. [editline]11:47PM[/editline] And I don't know the first thing because I'm a white christian from a high-class family, right Chippay?[/QUOTE] My dad grew up in poverty, and I am not in poverty, but below average poor

[QUOTE=Lankist;16148748]Thanks for the contribution![/QUOTE] Nah, it pretty much covers it.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;16148787]Seeing as I never implied I was or made an argument pertaining myself above them; I'm not answering.[/QUOTE] No, you are. You're saying there are poor people that are incapable of bettering themselves, but at the same time you claimed that you were from an impoverished setting and you rose above it out of your own volition. It is a VERY simple question. Do you or do you not believe that members of the lower class have the capability of bettering themselves like you claimed you did?

Looks like Lankist is having a Glenn Beck meltdown.

Lankist = butthurt Spic who shits on every thread in this section.

"You are one naive person, you know that? You SERIOUSLY think EVERY single LAST poor person is either stupid and lazy, or choosing to be poor? I don't believe in luck, but that's really the only way to describe it. Someone like my father who is still poor as hell has worked his ass off, but he's still getting fucked over. Saying: "I can do, so can you" doesn't work like that. Welcome to reality. I'm not the only one. " Where does he even say anything about other poor people, if anything he's defending them

[QUOTE=doommarine23;16148795]My dad grew up in poverty, and I am not in poverty, but below average poor[/QUOTE] That's super awesome for you. Now go tell your dad that it was luck that got him out of poverty and not his sweat and work ethic. [editline]11:50PM[/editline] [QUOTE=doommarine23;16148814]"You are one naive person, you know that? You SERIOUSLY think EVERY single LAST poor person is either stupid and lazy, or choosing to be poor? I don't believe in luck, but that's really the only way to describe it. Someone like my father who is still poor as hell has worked his ass off, but he's still getting fucked over. Saying: "I can do, so can you" doesn't work like that. Welcome to reality. I'm not the only one. " Where does he even say anything about other poor people, if anything he's defending them[/QUOTE] FYI if you have an internet connection you are not impoverished.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16148816]That's super awesome for you. Now go tell your dad that it was luck that got him out of poverty and not his sweat and work ethic.[/QUOTE] Actually no, it was luck he met my mom from a blind-date (the other guy couldn't make it so my dad was chosen) my mom was middle class, and here I am now. So yes, it was luck, my dad is still ghetto as fuck [editline]11:51PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;16148816]That's super awesome for you. Now go tell your dad that it was luck that got him out of poverty and not his sweat and work ethic. [editline]11:50PM[/editline] FYI if you have an internet connection you are not impoverished.[/QUOTE] I never said poverty, I said poor/below middle-class

[QUOTE=doommarine23;16148828]Actually no, it was luck he met my mom from a blind-date (the other guy couldn't make it so my dad was chosen) my mom was middle class, and here I am now. So yes, it was luck, my dad is still ghetto as fuck[/QUOTE] So you're going to tell him that he is just a natural born loser incapable of improving himself, then?

[QUOTE=Lankist;16148836]So you're going to tell him that he is just a natural born loser incapable of improving himself, then?[/QUOTE] Considering he and mom divorced twice, he drinks 24/7, and is moving out in 2 years and I'll never see him again, yes

[QUOTE=doommarine23;16148828]I never said poverty, I said poor/below middle-class[/QUOTE] If you have the money and time to devote to a video game internet discussion forum, you're middle class. [editline]11:55PM[/editline] [QUOTE=doommarine23;16148841]Considering he and mom divorced twice, he drinks 24/7, and is moving out in 2 years and I'll never see him again, yes[/QUOTE] So you're telling me that I am a terrible person because I think people are lazy, but you find nothing at all wrong with thinking about the lower class as a group of people who are naturally and irreversibly WORSE than you in every conceivable way? That you, by some fluke of luck, are an inherently better human being than they are? You act like it's so radical to expect from others what you expect from yourself.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16148844]If you have the money and time to devote to a video game internet discussion forum, you're middle class.[/QUOTE] summer vacation, not legal age for work (for time) 20 bucks a month internet (For money) We're not exactly poor, nor middle class, we're just making it by

You know, Lankist, for an advocate of pulling oneself up from the gutter, you seem pretty fucked up.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16148844]If you have the money and time to devote to a video game internet discussion forum, you're middle class. [editline]11:55PM[/editline] So you're telling me that I am a terrible person because I think people are lazy, but you find nothing at all wrong with thinking about the lower class as a group of people who are naturally and irreversibly WORSE than you in every conceivable way?[/QUOTE] Who ever said I thought lower class people were horrible? Just because my dad is a loser doesn't mean I think everyone

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16148862]You know, Lankist, for an advocate of pulling oneself up from the gutter, you seem pretty fucked up.[/QUOTE] And for someone who is claiming to champion the lower class you sure have no problem with insulting them.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16148873]And for someone who is claiming to champion the lower class you sure have no problem with insulting them.[/QUOTE] Who ever said we fucking championed over them?

[QUOTE=doommarine23;16148863]Who ever said I thought lower class people were horrible? Just because my dad is a loser doesn't mean I think everyone[/QUOTE] "You SERIOUSLY think EVERY single LAST poor person is either stupid and lazy, or choosing to be poor?" I didn't say you think EVERYONE is below you. I said you think that at least a good chunk of the lower class is below you, as human beings. See, I think everyone in the lower class has the inherent capability as human beings to use their mind, develop and intellect and rise above their predispositions. You seem to be under the impression that there is a certain demographic that is quite literally less human than you are, and needs YOUR help.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16148873]And for someone who is claiming to champion the lower class you sure have no problem with insulting them.[/QUOTE] See? Everything you say is an insult to someone, you're always fucking angry, and you don't let yourself believe that anyone could possibly be compassionate. You think everyone must be somehow be committing mental gymnastics in a vague plot to look down on other people. Maybe if you didn't do the same fucking thing you wouldn't see that in everyone you ever talk to.

ITT: Lankist thinks he's above the lower class because the lower class is made up of lazy and stupid people who choose not to work their way up like himself.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16148873]And for someone who is claiming to champion the lower class you sure have no problem with insulting them.[/QUOTE] You're the reason we need to help people who have less than us. Because the fight to get where you are is a fucking tough one and it turns you into a fucking piece of shit with no empathy and a metric fuckton of rage.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16148891]See? Everything you say is an insult to someone, you're always fucking angry, and you don't let yourself believe that anyone could possibly be compassionate. You think everyone must be somehow be committing mental gymnastics in a vague plot to look down on other people. Maybe if you didn't do the same fucking thing you wouldn't see that in everyone you ever talk to.[/QUOTE] Welcome to libertarianism.

"You SERIOUSLY think EVERY single LAST poor person is either stupid and lazy, or choosing to be poor?" Was a quote So, helping people who struggle makes me think of them as less human? Hey, there's a guy bleeding to death begging for help, I should let him fix him self up because helping him makes him less human Hey, here's a poor family struggling let's have them live in poverty instead of helping them, because that makes them less human How the fuck is being nice thinking of them as less human?

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16148891]See? Everything you say is an insult to someone, you're always fucking angry, and you don't let yourself believe that anyone could possibly be compassionate. You think everyone must be somehow be committing mental gymnastics in a vague plot to look down on other people. Maybe if you didn't do the same fucking thing you wouldn't see that in everyone you ever talk to.[/QUOTE] So you're telling me operating under the assumption that there is a demographic of people who is inherently incapable of bettering themselves is NOT condescension? You've stopped addressing the point to bitch about Mean Old Lankist.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;16148899]Welcome to libertarianism.[/QUOTE] Says the genius who thinks Bush was a proponent for small government.

I don't judge people by how poor they are, I had no idea that having sympathy and wanting to help them meant anything of my human standards get your head checked,

[QUOTE=doommarine23;16148905]So, helping people who struggle makes me think of them as less human? Hey, there's a guy bleeding to death begging for help, I should let him fix him self up because helping him makes him less human Hey, here's a poor family struggling let's have them live in poverty instead of helping them, because that makes them less human How the fuck is being nice thinking of them as less human?[/QUOTE] I'm fine with you helping people. You telling me that EVERYONE has the responsibility to help people because they are incapable of helping themselves? There's a difference between what you say now and what the idea we are discussing is. FYI: Champion: Verb to fight for; defend; support

[QUOTE=doommarine23;16148878]Who ever said we fucking championed over them?[/QUOTE] I think what Lankist means is that you and whoever else are implying that poor people are incapable of bettering themselves, like there is some invisible force holding them down. He's saying that everyone is capable, and that you're lazy if you don't try to get out of poverty.