House Democrats look at taxing the rich for health care
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[QUOTE=doommarine23;16148912]I don't judge people by how poor they are,
I had no idea that having sympathy and wanting to help them meant anything of my human standards
get your head checked,[/QUOTE]
You didn't sound very sympathetic when you said your impoverished father is a natural born loser.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;16148892]ITT: Lankist thinks he's above the lower class because the lower class is made up of lazy and stupid people who choose not to work their way up like himself.[/QUOTE]
That's my point. Working that hard for that long fucks you up. That's because the world is fucked up. And whenever someone suggests we should try and make the world less fucked up people like Lankist don't even believe anyone could possibly even want to help someone so they act like all they're trying to do is stroke their own egos.
I never implied shit, I just came in this thread late.
I think we have a responsibility to help because people shouldn't fucking suffer being poor,
[QUOTE=Lankist;16148886]"You SERIOUSLY think EVERY single LAST poor person is either stupid and lazy, or choosing to be poor?"
I didn't say you think EVERYONE is below you. I said you think that at least a good chunk of the lower class is below you, as human beings.
See, I think everyone in the lower class has the inherent capability as human beings to use their mind, develop and intellect and rise above their predispositions.
You seem to be under the impression that there is a certain demographic that is quite literally less human than you are, and needs YOUR help.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, Chippay WAS right, you do make up arguments.
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16148935]That's my point. Working that hard for that long fucks you up. That's because the world is fucked up. And whenever someone suggests we should try and make the world less fucked up people like Lankist don't even believe anyone could possibly even want to help someone so they act like all they're trying to do is stroke their own egos.[/QUOTE]
And what adversities have you overcome in your lifetime that make you so qualified to speak on the subject of self improvement?
[QUOTE=Lankist;16148934]You didn't sound very sympathetic when you said your impoverished father is a natural born loser.[/QUOTE]
Because he is, it's not because he's poor, but because he drinks 24/7 and bitches and moans, always breaking promises
It has nothing to do with him being poor,
[QUOTE=Lankist;16148906]So you're telling me operating under the assumption that there is a demographic of people who is inherently incapable of bettering themselves is NOT condescension?
You've stopped addressing the point to bitch about Mean Old Lankist.[/QUOTE]
I'm not even making that argument right now Lankist. I'm saying they can, but then they turn into fuckers like you with no empathy or will to help other people. You're the exact reason why we should help people.
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[QUOTE=Lankist;16148943]And what adversities have you overcome in your lifetime that make you so qualified to speak on the subject of self improvement?[/QUOTE]
Don't dodge my point. I thought you hated that.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;16148941]Holy shit, Chippay WAS right, you do make up arguments.[/QUOTE]
If you took any of what I and Chippay say to each other seriously you need to seriously reconsider your position.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16148911]Says the genius who thinks Bush was a proponent for small government.[/QUOTE]
lol, says the person who didn't disprove it.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;16148922]I think what Lankist means is that you and whoever else are implying that poor people are incapable of bettering themselves, like there is some invisible force holding them down.
He's saying that everyone is capable, and that you're lazy if you don't try to get out of poverty.[/QUOTE]
Nice superficial argument.
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16148946]Don't dodge my point. I thought you hated that.[/QUOTE]
You don't have a point. You expressed disbelief at the notion of me thinking everyone is equally capable of climbing the social ladder in the modern world.
You geniuses keep ignoring the fact that I'm saying everyone is equal in favor of calling me discompassionate.
I'm a fucking romantic.
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[QUOTE=Trotsky;16148957]lol, says the person who didn't disprove it.[/QUOTE]
Okay, if you want to ramble on about evidence, the burden of evidence is on you, the maker of the claim.
Provide evidence.
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[QUOTE=doommarine23;16148945]Because he is, it's not because he's poor, but because he drinks 24/7 and bitches and moans, always breaking promises
It has nothing to do with him being poor,[/QUOTE]
And I am a bad person for thinking even he has the capability to improve himself, that everyone has the capacity to make something of themselves if they work their asses off for it?
[QUOTE=doommarine23;16148938]I never implied shit, I just came in this thread late.
I think we have a responsibility to help because people shouldn't fucking suffer being poor,[/QUOTE]
You can help people if you want to, but there is no obligation to help anyone.
If I see a poor person begging for money, I have no obligiation to give them anything. It's not my problem, and it's not my responsibility.
They're perfectly capable of helping themselves.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;16148938]I never implied shit, I just came in this thread late.
I think we have a responsibility to help because people shouldn't fucking suffer being poor,[/QUOTE]
And what have you done for the poor lately aside from calling the poor person you use as a reference a prick?
I never said anything about you being a bad person
People don't just work 24/7 and get out of poverty, that's not how it works
My dad had to support his mom, (dad died) and 4 siblings and they were poor as shit
He worked, 24/7, physical labor, starting at age 15, and they were still poor
What the hell is your logic
[QUOTE=Lankist;16148961]You don't have a point. You expressed disbelief at the notion of me thinking everyone is equally capable of climbing the social ladder in the modern world.
You geniuses keep ignoring the fact that I'm saying everyone is equal in favor of calling me discompassionate.
I'm a fucking romantic.[/QUOTE]
No I'm not. If you'd read what I'm typing, you'd notice I'm saying that people are perfectly capable of doing what you've done, and getting the same results, and that's why we should tip the balance in their favor.
Can you honestly tell me you've taken no scars from what you've done? That your anger and inability to trust other people is simply an inherent character flaw you were born with?
You are discompassionate. You just like playing the high and mighty card so you pass it off as respect.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16148998]And what have you done for the poor lately aside from calling the poor person you use as a reference a prick?[/QUOTE]
Nothing, because there is no poor people in my area, and I'm only 14
and I like how you act like as if my father is just a poor person
fyi, he's my dad, and I live with him, I'm judging him as a person, not a poor person
Infact, it's kind of like racism
If I said he was black, you'd flip out, if I said he was white, you wouldn't mention it
I'm sure if I never mentioned him being poor you wouldn't give an rats ass
God you're retarded...
Are you EVEN paying attention?
I'm arguing absence thereof, burdon of proof to argue something that's not there? wot
You're not even making sense. You're making up arguments and changing the topic.
I'm done, you're too retarded to continue, it's obvious of that.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;16149014]God you're retarded...
Are you EVEN paying attention?
I'm arguing absence thereof, burdon of proof to argue something that's not there? wot
You're not even making sense. You're making up arguments and changing the topic.
I'm done, you're too retarded to continue, it's obvious of that.[/QUOTE]
Good Idea
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16149003]No I'm not. If you'd read what I'm typing, you'd notice I'm saying that people are perfectly capable of doing what you've done, and getting the same results, and that's why we should tip the balance in their favor.
Can you honestly tell me you've taken no scars from what you've done? That your anger and inability to trust other people is simply an inherent character flaw you were born with?
You are discompassionate. You just like playing the high and mighty card so you pass it off as respect.[/QUOTE]
Why should we tip the balance? If the balance is in poor people's favor, that means it's working against people who aren't poor.
Lankist is saying everything should be even.
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16149003]No I'm not. If you'd read what I'm typing, you'd notice I'm saying that people are perfectly capable of doing what you've done, and getting the same results, and that's why we should tip the balance in their favor.
Can you honestly tell me you've taken no scars from what you've done? That your anger and inability to trust other people is simply an inherent character flaw you were born with?
You are discompassionate. You just like playing the high and mighty card so you pass it off as respect.[/QUOTE]
You're taking what I'm saying on the internet and trying to attribute legitimate emotion to it?
Please. Nigga this shit is my entertainment.
If you want to know about my personal life, yes I've taken away scars. No, I do not try to hide behind bullshit "character flaws" when I fuck up. And I sure as hell am not going to spend my hard earned time, money and position in life trying to keep other people from getting worldly scars. They can live their own fucking lives, I want no part of it.
Plus, chicks dig scars.
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[QUOTE=Trotsky;16149014]God you're retarded...
Are you EVEN paying attention?
I'm arguing absence thereof, burdon of proof to argue something that's not there? wot
You're not even making sense. You're making up arguments and changing the topic.
I'm done, you're too retarded to continue, it's obvious of that.[/QUOTE]
You said Bush was a proponent for small government.
Where is your supporting evidence?
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;16149032]Why should we tip the balance? If the balance is in poor people's favor, that means it's working against people who aren't poor.
Lankist is saying everything should be even.[/QUOTE]
Rich people don't need extra help,
Yes, let's fuck over people who need a helping hand and could have a better life
[QUOTE=doommarine23;16149050]Rich people don't need extra help,
Yes, let's fuck over people who need a helping hand and could have a better life[/QUOTE]
Nobody needs extra help.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;16149032]Why should we tip the balance? If the balance is in poor people's favor, that means it's working against people who aren't poor.
Lankist is saying everything should be even.[/QUOTE]
the balance is never going to be tipped in favor of poor people. If the balance was tipped in their favor, they wouldn't be poor, now would they?
[QUOTE=doommarine23;16149028]Good Idea[/QUOTE]
No. Stop pussing out looking for an exit strategy.
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[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16149059]the balance is never going to be tipped in favor of poor people. If the balance was tipped in their favor, they wouldn't be poor, now would they?[/QUOTE]
Every time you tip the balance in one direction, the other direction becomes the impoverished/oppressed/needy
There is no way to help someone without harming someone else. The only solution is to help no one while harming no one, letting the People themselves decide their own fates. There will always be the impoverished and the needy, there is no solution.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16149039]You're taking what I'm saying on the internet and trying to attribute legitimate emotion to it?
Please. Nigga this shit is my entertainment.
If you want to know about my personal life, yes I've taken away scars. No, I do not try to hide behind bullshit "character flaws" when I fuck up. And I sure as hell am not going to spend my hard earned time, money and position in life trying to keep other people from getting worldly scars. They can live their own fucking lives, I want no part of it.
Plus, chicks dig scars.
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Where is your supporting evidence?[/QUOTE]
See. Now you're just passing it off. Playing the "just cool" card. Typical.
So like I said. You're a prime example of why we should help people, us not fucked up people. Because if we played the game your way the world would just become more fucked up. You don't respect anyone, you're just a fucking heap of hate and venom. And you're so self absorbed you won't even think about changing it.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16149056]Nobody needs extra help.[/QUOTE]
Why not?
Why shouldn't people who are quite possibly living shitty lives and barely make it by get extra help?
This isn't about being a champion and it isn't about seeing them as less able than middle class
it's about sympathy for people, I feel sympathy for poor people who can barely fuckin pay to support their kids in life
[QUOTE=Lankist;16149056]Nobody needs extra help.[/QUOTE]
You did. It's pretty damn obvious.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;16149074]Why not?
Why shouldn't people who are quite possibly living shitty lives and barely make it by get extra help?
This isn't about being a champion and it isn't about seeing them as less able than middle class
it's about sympathy for people, I feel sympathy for poor people who can barely fuckin pay to support their kids in life[/QUOTE]
Because people are perfectly capable of championing themselves.
Your sympathy is misplaced and unneeded. Stop worrying about everyone else and mind your own affairs.
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[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16149081]You did. It's pretty damn obvious.[/QUOTE]
No, I didn't.
I don't even know how you would tip the balance in favor of poor people. Would the middle class and upper class pay more taxes for welfare? Would employers discriminate based on social status?
I don't think there is any fair way to force people to help other people.
If you'd prefer to make personal attacks you can send me a PM I can post in Fats Threads later mocking you.
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