House Democrats look at taxing the rich for health care - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Trotsky;16151256]Is Lankist seriously still going?[/QUOTE] You're a terrible debater did you know that

I'll just assume Lankist is a rage troll or some shit, this thread is going places :munch:

[QUOTE=Trotsky;16151256]Is Lankist seriously still going?[/QUOTE] who's this lankist guy he sounds sexy

[QUOTE=Lankist;16150239]And? [editline]02:05AM[/editline] That's more of a universal statement of fact. [editline]02:05AM[/editline] If you didn't realize that already I don't know what to say to you.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, it just seemed like you were the one that didn't realize this.

inb4 Auto-thread lock.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16151300]You're a terrible debater did you know that[/QUOTE] :irony: [QUOTE=thisispain;16151380]who's this lankist guy he sounds sexy[/QUOTE] Ignorance is bliss.

Ignorance is bliss, yes Trotsky. If you stopped to think for a moment you'd know Lankist is a big troll.

i'm not reading all of this but here's an article about libertarianism because i know you guys shitting up this thread with pointless arguments are going to be libertarians [url]http://www.zompist.com/libertos.html[/url] enjoy it baby

lol @ dumb article claiming libertarians influence the republican party [editline]05:11PM[/editline] Clearly written by a democrat who thinks anyone who isn't a democrat is secretly working with the republicans [editline]05:13PM[/editline] [quote]libertarianism is an instance of the simplest (and therefore silliest) type of politics: the single-villain ideology.[/quote] Yes because simply politics = bad politics and convoluted politics = good politics Your article was written by an infant. [editline]05:14PM[/editline] And five minutes after claiming Libertarians = Republicans the genius says Libertarians = Anarchists. Bravo.

lankist i'm so sick of your black nationalism trolling this thread maybe if you renounced your inferior hindu beliefs in favor of glorious islam [editline]10:03PM[/editline] allahu akbar

[quote]It's hard to read libertarians without concluding that they've never been out of the country-- perhaps never out of the suburbs. They don't know what Latin American rule by the elite looks like; they don't know any way of running an industrial economy but that of the US; they don't know what an actually oppressive government looks like; they've never experienced a depression; they've never lived in a slum or experienced racial discrimination. At the same time, they have a very American sense of entitlement: a gut feeling that they've earned the prosperity they were born into, that they owe the community nothing, that they deserve to have whatever they want, that no one should stand in their way. [/quote] fuck off

So basically all the poor people will get the cover for free on benefits somehow and normal people will have to pay on the odd occasion that they are ill? I'd just not go to the doctors. :frown:

[QUOTE=Lankist;16147900]Price control is a great idea except how the government itself can raise prices so they earn more tax revenue.[/QUOTE] With that notion, you're effectively killing supply and demand. Let's start from the beginning. In order to produce your goods/services you're going to need resources such as capital, land (which has an inherent value of zero without the technology to utilize it), labour and entrepreneurial ability. The fulcrum of production and the success of the market depends on the entrepreneur, which even Keynesian economics states. If you're going to impose price control, you're effectively ignoring the existence of inflation and deflation. The market is not static, and this is why supply and demand is essential. The business must meet quota (As well as a profit, which can and is used to save and invest for the future). In order to get to point b, you're going to change it to d since a has been changed to c; ergo the factor of production have to be fixed. You're going to have to fix the prices of labour and capital which the entrepreneur buys from and business, which will also have to change its production factors. Right then and there you're killing any piece of incentive or prosperity that wasn't killed by bureaucratic red tape. As demand rises, the supply shrinks, the plates the government tries to spin on their sticks come crashing down. Ancient Rome was a great example of this. Everyone must get one thing straight. [b]RESOURCES ARE LIMITED![/b] You can't consume more than you can produce. I digress now onto another points of interest, starting with poor people. There are those like Pvt.Ryan and Trotsky, who act as if they're the saviours of poor people; however, there is no collective poor person mind. There are poor people who would thrust the sword instead of holding their (sanctimonious "saviours") shields. Do I know such people? Yes. Can I provide an example of one? Yeah: [url]http://www.youtube.com/user/ladyattis[/url] There are those poor who do not want handouts, and neither will I soon. There are those of us who would be disgusted to mooch off of other people's money, without any permission to do so. The money they worked for is not ours' to take. You guys can put your money where your mouth is. You can run a bed and breakfast, free of charge. Invite homeless people to stay with you, lend them your personal possessions, and the keys to your car (who needs private ownership amirite?), and learn the true meaning of not being an armchair douchebag. Somehow it immoral for one to devote oneself to himself, yet it is a virtue for other people to devote themselves to you. The only difference between selfishness and altruism is that people sacrifice (self-destructive behaviour) themselves for you in the latter. It's one directional, unproductive, and futile from an economic point of view. The directions of these threads are predictable: Profit is bad because everyone is Snidely Whiplash, and income can't possibly be use for philanthropic, or other purposes that would breed prosperous results. Profit is good only if you're the worker class because a measure of a person's worth is how poor they are. You must spend, spend, and spend blah blah blah. Look up Keynesian economics, blah blah blah even though he said to save in good times so you have money to spend in bad times. We lefties take a moral stance on raising taxes for the rich...... through the barrel of a gun and emotional guilt. Imposing our values onto others and telling them they should leave the country if they don't like it makes us super ethical. Private Monopoly = Bad Government Monopoly = Good Slavery of the competent to incompetent bureaucrats is beneficial for the poor, and even productive. Rich people just want more money, which is followed by some shriveled up little paradigm of Egor shouting, "THIS!" or "PWNED!" Then Chippay swoops in like the champ that he is, and expresses his lecherous fantasies about bombing brown people. Fin.

[QUOTE=thisispain;16163181]fuck off[/QUOTE] It's a hilarious quote from my perspective. Was that article written by you, Chippay, given your penchant for calling people white?

[QUOTE=Lankist;16163366]It's a hilarious quote from my perspective. Was that article written by you, Chippay, given your penchant for calling people white?[/QUOTE] i have written everything you've ever read therefore, i am you and you're white logic muthafucka [editline]11:14PM[/editline] [QUOTE=HK-100;16163221] Then Chippay swoops in like the champ that he is, and expresses his lecherous fantasies about bombing brown people. Fin.[/QUOTE] your post is really stupid and awful but you mentioned me so i guess i'm in some kind of neutral zone

[QUOTE=HK-100;16163221]Then Chippay swoops in like the champ that he is, and expresses his lecherous fantasies about bombing brown people. Fin.[/QUOTE] Chippay wishes everyone in the world were white and even says that somebody being Not-white is an inconvenience to him. [editline]07:16PM[/editline] Chippay thinks the Aryan Race will rise again

[QUOTE=Lankist;16163366]It's a hilarious quote from my perspective. Was that article written by you, Chippay, given your penchant for calling people white?[/QUOTE] I've gone through poverty and racial discrimination and I'm not American. i don't deserve this shit

[QUOTE=Lankist;16163552]Chippay wishes everyone in the world were white and even says that somebody being Not-white is an inconvenience to him. [editline]07:16PM[/editline] Chippay thinks the Aryan Race will rise again[/QUOTE] lankist is a black nationalist troll who refuses to abandon his foul hindu gods in favour of glorious islam he's also a secret communist [editline]11:18PM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;16163562]I've gone through poverty and racial discrimination and I'm not American. i don't deserve this shit[/QUOTE] yes you do :)

[QUOTE=Chippay;16163581]lankist is a black nationalist troll who refuses to abandon his foul hindu gods in favour of glorious islam he's also a secret communist [editline]11:18PM[/editline] yes you do :)[/QUOTE] Talk more Aryan scum

guys, why don't you stop this fighting and just admit you guys are in love ohh it's so beautiful

[QUOTE=Lankist;16163601]Talk more Aryan scum[/QUOTE] just like a black nationalist hindu to troll a thread embrace islam kafir [editline]11:20PM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;16163606]guys, why don't you stop this fighting and just admit you guys are in love ohh it's so beautiful[/QUOTE] :allears:

[QUOTE=thisispain;16163562]I've gone through poverty and racial discrimination and I'm not American. i don't deserve this shit[/QUOTE] because you went through something, you're entitled not to be disagreed with?

[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16164689]because you went through something, you're entitled not to be disagreed with?[/QUOTE] No, because he went through something he's entitled to tell some internet jackass who bases his entire political argument on the notion that he has not gone through anything to go stick his needle dick into a lightsocket.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16161354]lol @ dumb article claiming libertarians influence the republican party Yes because simply politics = bad politics and convoluted politics = good politics Your article was written by an infant. [editline]05:14PM[/editline] And five minutes after claiming Libertarians = Republicans the genius says Libertarians = Anarchists. Bravo.[/QUOTE] man you don't read anything do you. It doesn't say that libertarians=republicans, the article says that it is bizarre that libertarians often unify with republicans when in fact the philosophies are extremely different.

[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16164877]man you don't read anything do you. The article says that it is bizarre that libertarians often unify with republicans when in fact the philosophies are extremely different.[/QUOTE] What libertarians, where [editline]08:35PM[/editline] I think it's bizarre that Socialists often unify themselves with baby rapists. [editline]08:35PM[/editline] Sure I don't have any sort of experience with socialist baby rapists but still it's bizarre! [editline]08:36PM[/editline] To say outright that philosophical libertarians have a tendency to be secret republicans demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of the subject matter. It's like he listen to Ron Paul for five minutes and all of a sudden he thinks he knows shit.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16164866]No, because he went through something he's entitled to tell some internet jackass who bases his entire political argument on the notion that he has not gone through anything to go stick his needle dick into a lightsocket.[/QUOTE] no, I also base my political philosophy on telling people who talk about how economic deregulation and privatization are good for a country to look at actual examples of it, ie. Pinochet's Chile, modern Latin America, and America during the industrial revolution.

[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16164922]no, I also base my political philosophy on telling people who talk about how economic deregulation and privatization are good for a country to look at actual examples of it, ie. Pinochet's Chile, modern Latin America, and America during the industrial revolution.[/QUOTE] We're talking about that retarded article, not you. The world doesn't revolve around you.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16164932]We're talking about that retarded article, not you. The world doesn't revolve around you.[/QUOTE] Well that "retarded article" sure seemed to strike a chord, didn't it? Explain to me how you can look at Pinochet's Chile and say that deregulation and privatization are ultimately good for a country?

[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16164964]Well that "retarded article" sure seemed to strike a chord, didn't it?[/quote] In the sense that it is dumbfoundingly ignorant of what Libertarianism actually is and seems to share Chippay's fetish for calling people White and Christian, yes. Derp derp libertarians are white rich kids derp derp [quote]Explain to me how you can look at Pinochet's Chile and say that deregulation and privatization are ultimately good for a country?[/QUOTE] Look at Nazi Germany and tell me that socialist parties are ultimately good for a country. Just because one group didn't do it well doesn't mean it's physically impossible. You can't tell me because there has been a history of failure in a specific ideology means it is a failure in of itself. That pretty much destroys all Marxist ideals as well. How well has ANY form of socialist or communist government worked so far?

[QUOTE=Lankist;16164998]In the sense that it is dumbfoundingly ignorant of what Libertarianism actually is and seems to share Chippay's fetish for calling people White and Christian, yes. Derp derp libertarians are white rich kids derp derp [/QUOTE] you just can't get me out of your head, can you? convert to islam and i'll take you out to dinner