House Democrats look at taxing the rich for health care - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16164689]because you went through something, you're entitled not to be disagreed with?[/QUOTE] he's not disagreeing with me he's belittling me by using abusive ad hominem attacks you should know the difference, people always try to pull that shit on FP

[QUOTE=Chippay;16165019]you just can't get me out of your head, can you?[/QUOTE] Considering you hate Mexicans yes.

i mean, i know tons of people that disagree with my views, in fact, they make up most of my friends, both here on the internet, and in my super complicated social life one of my best friends is in fact, a socialist (lol, i basically just pulled the "i have a black friend" argument)

[QUOTE=Lankist;16165031]Considering you hate Mexicans yes.[/QUOTE] i only hate the shameful hondurans they know what they did

[quote=Lankist;434343] Look at Nazi Germany and tell me that socialist parties are ultimately good for a country. Just because one group didn't do it well doesn't mean it's physically impossible.[/quote] It's actually interesting, hitler and the nazi party abandoned their ideals of nationalizing corporations, like Krupp or Junkers, and state capitalism, and instead worked with them and maintained their monopoly. This was all to the disappointment of people like Goebbels, who wanted them to be nationalized so their assets could be literally part of Germany. I think it's ridiculous how often people try to associate socialists with the nazis.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16165031]Considering you hate Mexicans yes.[/QUOTE] just mexicans? like he's okay with puerto ricans?

My imaginary gay friend says it's okay for me to bash thems queers

[QUOTE=thisispain;16165056]just mexicans? like he's okay with puerto ricans?[/QUOTE] yeah they cool

[QUOTE=thisispain;16165056]just mexicans? like he's okay with puerto ricans?[/QUOTE] Fuck Puerto Rico it's not even a real country anyway

[QUOTE=Lankist;16165066]Fuck Puerto Rico it's not even a real country anyway[/QUOTE] you take that back RACIST

[QUOTE=Conscript;16165050]It's actually interesting, hitler and the nazi party abandoned their ideals of nationalizing corporations and state capitalism, and instead worked with them and maintained their monopoly. This was all to the disappointment of people like Goebbels, who wanted them to be nationalized so their assets could be literally part of Germany. I think it's ridiculous how often people try to associate socialists with the nazis.[/QUOTE] They were elected on a socialist platform. It doesn't matter how you rationalize it, Socialism has just as long a list of failures as anything else. If you were to discount every philosophy with previous failures, you would be left with nothing.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16165066]Fuck Puerto Rico it's not even a real country anyway[/QUOTE] it's a country of some kind

[QUOTE=Chippay;16165076]you take that back RACIST[/QUOTE] nigga puerto rico is a country [editline]08:47PM[/editline] but not really

[QUOTE=Lankist;16164998]Look at Nazi Germany and tell me that socialist parties are ultimately good for a country.[/QUOTE] I'd say the socialist aspect worked rather well with all of the road building and such going on. It was the nationalism and totalitarianism that led germany to it's demise. [QUOTE=Lankist;16164998]Just because one group didn't do it well doesn't mean it's physically impossible.[/QUOTE] How can you not deregulate well? I can see how you could screw up making regulations, but it's pretty hard to screw up when removing them. They moved towards the free market that libertarians idolize. Shouldn't that have improved things? Cause things didn't improve when they did.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16165088]nigga puerto rico is a country[/QUOTE] so you hate black people too? this is really endangering the prospects of us going to a restaurant! [editline]12:48AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;16165088] but not really[/QUOTE] !!!!

[QUOTE=Lankist;16165080]They were elected on a socialist platform.[/QUOTE] and????? Platform does not equal reality (politicians lie sometimes)

[QUOTE=Lankist;16165080]They were elected on a socialist platform. It doesn't matter how you rationalize it, Socialism has just as long a list of failures as anything else.[/QUOTE] Um, no. They were elected on germany-was-stabbed-in-the-back-in-WW1-by-the-communists/socialists platform. Socialism is inherently an internationalist ideology, that does not distinct people based on race or ethnicity. 'National Socialism', if it was ever accomplished like the early nazi's intended, would've been 'socialism for aryans'. It's little more then having aryans work together and cooperate to build a new, aryan world. It's more accurate to call it fascist.

[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16165103] They moved towards the free market that libertarians idolize. Shouldn't that have improved things? Cause things didn't improve when they did.[/QUOTE] free market isn't the only thing that libertarians base their hopes and dreams on you cannot deny that trade among countries hasn't strengthened our relations, where would we be with China if we didn't have such a good business relationship

[QUOTE=Chippay;16165105]so you hate black people too? this is really endangering the prospects of us going to a restaurant! [editline]12:48AM[/editline] !!!![/QUOTE] im blaxican I can say that.

[quote=sigma-lambda;16165130]and????? Platform does not equal reality (politicians lie sometimes)[/quote] wheres da birth certificate obayma

[QUOTE=Lankist;16165135]im blaxican I can say that.[/QUOTE] you're black now?

[QUOTE=Lankist;16165135]im blaxican I can say that.[/QUOTE] kafir talk repent and embrace islam

[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16165103]I'd say the socialist aspect worked rather well with all of the road building and such going on. It was the nationalism and totalitarianism that led germany to it's demise.[/quote] Something that does not exist in Libertarianism. [quote]How can you not deregulate well? I can see how you could screw up making regulations, but it's pretty hard to screw up when removing them. They moved towards the free market that libertarians idolize. Shouldn't that have improved things? Cause things didn't improve when they did.[/QUOTE] Free markets are not immune to local factors. They only work when a there is a market to begin with. South America has never been an economic powerhouse. [QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16165130]and????? Platform does not equal reality (politicians lie sometimes)[/QUOTE] And why does that logic apply to socialism but not libertarianism? You've been saying Libertarians are secret republicans, I say socialists are secret Nazis. [QUOTE=Conscript;16165132]Um, no. They were elected on germany-was-stabbed-in-the-back-in-WW1-by-the-communists/socialists platform. Socialism is inherently an internationalist ideology, that does not distinct people based on race or ethnicity. 'National Socialism', if it was ever accomplished like the early nazi's intended, would've been 'socialism for aryans'. It's little more then having aryans work together to build a new, aryan world.[/QUOTE] Keep rationalizing. You pull this same shit to libertarian ideas but suddenly when you attribute bad things to socialism, OH NO YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG! Name one successful socialist state that exists today. One. [editline]08:52PM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;16165149]you're black now?[/QUOTE] He keeps calling me a black nationalist. Apparently I am.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16165166] He keeps calling me a black nationalist. Apparently I am.[/QUOTE] now you can hang with TH89

[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16165103] How can you not deregulate well? I can see how you could screw up making regulations, but it's pretty hard to screw up when removing them. They moved towards the free market that libertarians idolize. Shouldn't that have improved things? Cause things didn't improve when they did.[/QUOTE] You can do it the American way and blame deregulation even though there was more regulation than before. After the dot com bubble in 2001, there was even more regulation put in place, now they're saying that that wasn't enough apparently.

[QUOTE=thisispain;16165134]free market isn't the only thing that libertarians base their hopes and dreams on you cannot deny that trade among countries hasn't strengthened our relations, where would we be with China if we didn't have such a good business relationship[/QUOTE] if I recall correctly, supporting trade with other countries isn't a position unique to libertarians. and I'm not so sure that you should point out china as such a great success seeing as how American companies are constantly shipping American jobs over to China where labor laws are less strict and they are allowed to pay children 3 cents an hour to make 16 dollar bratz dolls I don't think that's working out well for the united states, or the chinese

[QUOTE=Lankist;16165166] Name one successful socialist state that exists today. One. [/QUOTE] Whatever happened to the USSR? :downs:

[QUOTE=thisispain;16165134]free market isn't the only thing that libertarians base their hopes and dreams on you cannot deny that trade among countries hasn't strengthened our relations, where would we be with China if we didn't have such a good business relationship[/QUOTE] Trade is the only reason we aren't still fucking with Russia, England, France, Japan, China and Saudi Arabia.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;16165179]You can do it the American way and blame deregulation even though there was more regulation than before. After the dot com bubble in 2001, there was even more regulation put in place, [/QUOTE] no there wasn't maybe some laws were created that applied directly to online corporate activity, but the market as a whole did not receive more regulation

[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16165183]if I recall correctly, supporting trade with other countries isn't a position unique to libertarians. and I'm not so sure that you should point out china as such a great success seeing as how American companies are constantly shipping American jobs over to China where labor laws are less strict and they are allowed to pay children 3 cents an hour to make 16 dollar bratz dolls I don't think that's working out well for the united states, or the chinese[/QUOTE] how will i cope with my life without relatively cheap plastic trinkets? i don't want my children to grow up in a world without cheap plastic trinkets