• BP: Oil leak is stopped
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[quote=Yahoo News] Now begins a waiting period to see if the cap can hold the oil without blowing a new leak in the well. Engineers will monitor pressure readings incrementally for up to 48 hours before reopening the cap while they decide what to do next. The cap is only planned as a temporary fix until a final plug is set from underground, maybe next month. Source: [url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill;_ylt=Ap4nZnfO3m1dAaZhmalPzlOs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNoa2dtNW01BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwNzE1L3VzX2d1bGZfb2lsX3NwaWxsBGNjb2RlA21vc3Rwb3B1bGFyBGNwb3MDMQRwb3MDMgRwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDYnBzYXlzaXRoYXNj]Yahoo News[/url] [/quote] I may have misinterpreted the wording here, so don't slam me if I'm wrong, but it looks like they're re-opening it in 48 hours.
ITT: people underestimate the difficulty of putting a cap on a pressurized oil well over a mile underwater. It's not easy. Try covering a garden hose at the bottom of a dark swimming pool with a straw, the only way to get to the hose is by adding more straws, and all you have to see the hose is a small camera at the bottom, almost no visibility.
[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23387756]April BP: How the hell are we going to fix this? May BP: Still thinking, no ideas yet... June BP: We need the government's help Government: We don't know what to do either July BP: Guys, I have this great idea! Let's put a fucking cap on it! It's brilliant! It took them 3 months just to try putting a cap on it. They could've done that [i]before[/i] they fucked over the gulf.[/QUOTE] Uh they repeatedly attempted to cap it It only just worked
[QUOTE=TheTalon;23387987]By Stopped they mean Siphoning off without leaking any in the process, and it'll last only until they decide what they are siphoning isn't enough and they change it, yet again[/QUOTE] They're siphoning off all of the leaking oil until they can get the relief well drilled and stop the well for good.
[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23387756] :words:[/QUOTE] I'd like to see you put on a cap on an Oil Well, flowing at several hundred PSI, miles beneath the ocean with less delay, and less problems.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;23386829]Watch BP's stock soar.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:BP[/url] Ding!
It's sickening how much havoc that is continually wrought upon the environment but human carelessness. This was a fucking disaster.
[QUOTE=jesseluver93;23388445] This was a fucking disaster.[/QUOTE] I'm making a note here: HUGE FAILURE
[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23387756]April BP: How the hell are we going to fix this? May BP: Still thinking, no ideas yet... June BP: We need the government's help Government: We don't know what to do either July BP: Guys, I have this great idea! Let's put a fucking cap on it! It's brilliant! It took them 3 months just to try putting a cap on it. They could've done that [i]before[/i] they fucked over the gulf.[/QUOTE] The first thing they tried was to put a cap over it. ITT: people selectively choose which parts of history they want to remember.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;23388225]I'd like to see you put on a cap on an Oil Well, flowing at several hundred PSI, miles beneath the ocean with less delay, and less problems.[/QUOTE] If they could almost instantly cap it now, why couldn't they have done it that fast 3 months ago?
[QUOTE=Pteradactyl;23387584]It took them 85 and 1/2 days just to put a cork in it?[/QUOTE] 85 days, 16 hours and 25 minutes to be precise. And freaking finally, although everythings dead/dies there now anyway.
[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23388595]If they could almost instantly cap it now, why couldn't they have done it that fast 3 months ago?[/QUOTE] Because the first strategies to fix it was to kill it (pump in concrete) from the top rather than waiting months for the relief wells to be drilled, IE Top Kill and Junk Shot. Top Kill works on wells of lesser pressure, but has never been tested on deepwater wells. Those didn't work because of the pressure just blew out the concrete, so they decided to try to cap it until they could get the relief wells drilled. So first they fabricated the first siphon cap and put it on while they engineer/fabricate the one they just put on now that has vents that allow the oil to vent out so it's not like your putting a cap on a pressurized hose rather than just covering it up and slowly closing it off.
If you don't have a way to cap it in an emergency BEFORE destroying the environment then you can't drill. Any rational world would have this rule. Not in our world though.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;23388720]If you don't have a way to cap it in an emergency BEFORE destroying the environment then you can't drill. Any rational world would have this rule. Not in our world though.[/QUOTE] Welcome to the world of business.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;23388720]If you don't have a way to cap it in an emergency BEFORE destroying the environment then you can't drill. Any rational world would have this rule. Not in our world though.[/QUOTE] All wells have blow out preventers that shut off the well before anything bad can happen. These can have up to something like 20 fail safes to stop the flow of oil. Problem is this one catastrophically failed (unrelated to the actual cause of the disaster). Had this BOP worked, the whole thing would have been prevented. Just search for oil rig blowouts on youtube. Land based rigs and offshore (not deepwater) rigs have the BOP above the surface, so if anything goes wrong they can just manually shut it off whereas the BOP on deepwater rigs is underwater and remote controlled (they have a manual shutoff but you have to do it with a robot) where if they fail your pretty much SOL as we've seen.
[QUOTE=jesseluver93;23388445] This was a fucking disaster.[/QUOTE] Indeed, imagine how much money they lost!
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;23387029][IMG]http://static-p3.fotolia.com/jpg/00/06/70/10/400_F_6701011_XPyYSfaOcAOBDQQDd60zZ7mB2z5cZ8Jw.jpg[/IMG] How much was lost again?[/QUOTE] Estimated between [B]20,000-60,000[/B] [B]barrels[/B] worth oil [B]a day[/B], so that could roughly be anywhere between [B]1,700,000 and 5,100,000 barrels [/B]all together. [I]That's a whole lot of oil.[/I]
[QUOTE=lew06;23390763]Estimated between [B]20,000-60,000[/B] barrels worth oil [B]a day[/B], so that could roughly be anywhere between [B]1,700,000 and 5,100,000 barrels.[/B] [I]That's a whole lot of oil.[/I][/QUOTE] Roughly 2.5 million gallons a day.
Its too late already, the damage has been done.
[QUOTE=zombojoe;23391205]Its too late already, the damage has been done.[/QUOTE] You realise that oil is biodegradable right? And in a warm environment like the gulf, the process is expedited. So yeah it might be there for a while, but it won't be there forever.
[QUOTE=liquid_phase;23391251]You realise that oil is biodegradable right? And in a warm environment like the gulf, the process is expedited. So yeah it might be there for a while, but it won't be there forever.[/QUOTE] He's right guys, oil spills aren't that big of a deal. Especially when you use toxic dispersant to make to oil sink and mix with the water.
:buddy: Oh wait they have to clean up. :smith:
[QUOTE=Bobv2;23391652]He's right guys, oil spills aren't that big of a deal. Especially when you use toxic dispersant to make to oil sink and mix with the water.[/QUOTE] The oil will sink naturally over time, I generally see the use of dispersant being pointless.
[QUOTE=Jon-Ace;23388254][url]http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:BP[/url] Ding![/QUOTE] If I knew how to buy stock I would have been all over BP the second the spill happened.
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[QUOTE=Bobv2;23391652]He's right guys, oil spills aren't that big of a deal. Especially when you use toxic dispersant to make to oil sink and mix with the water.[/QUOTE] Where did I say an oil spill wasn't a big deal? Less straw men please. And true, no-one knows for sure what effect the huge amounts of dispersant will cause. But, in time the damage will be reversed, via biodegradation for the oil and quite possibly the dispersant too, which is what my original reply was addressing.
[QUOTE=liquid_phase;23392159]Where did I say an oil spill wasn't a big deal? Less straw men please. (derp) And true, no-one knows for sure what effect the huge amounts of dispersant will cause. But, in time the damage will be reversed, via biodegradation for the oil and quite possibly the dispersant too, which is what my original reply was addressing.[/QUOTE] You act as if that the fact it is biodegradable made it all better. If that's not what you were saying, then I just misread you. We can't just count on nature to take one for the team. Also, they could have used a dispersant that wasn't nearly as toxic. I also remember hearing that from the combination of dispersant and oil nearly everyone that worked hands-on in the Exxon spill is dead. Not sure is this is true, would be nice to get a confirmation.
So essentially what they did was put the lid back on? Why didn't they think of this in the first place?
People seem to keep defending BP by saying that it's a difficult thing to do. But, why weren't they ready for something like this? Drilling oil is risky business, right? Obviously. They should've had plans for something like this and have been ready to respond [I]immediately.[/I] "It's a hard job" is not an excuse.
It's about damn time.
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