[QUOTE=Bobv2;23392406]People seem to keep defending BP by saying that it's a difficult thing to do. But, why weren't they ready for something like this? Drilling oil is risky business, right? Obviously. They should've had plans for something like this and have been ready to respond [I]immediately.[/I] "It's a hard job" is not an excuse.[/QUOTE]
Without a doubt, bp [B]should[/B] have had a plan for this. But they didn't and more importantly, none of the other supermajors did either.
The one I work for is now quite fucking feverishly working on such contingency plans for the future, as I expect all the others are too.
More worrying still is the report from the mms that 50% of bops might fail:
[url]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-04-29/failed-tool-doomed-oil-rig-workers-allowed-spill.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Bobv2;23392322]You act as if that the fact it is biodegradable made it all better. If that's not what you were saying, then I just misread you. We can't just count on nature to take one for the team. Also, they could have used a dispersant that wasn't nearly as toxic.
I also remember hearing that from the combination of dispersant and oil nearly everyone that worked hands-on in the Exxon spill is dead. Not sure is this is true, would be nice to get a confirmation.[/QUOTE]
It's my bad for not being clearer, I completely agree, we need to give nature a huge helping hand this time, and I hope for everyone in the gulfs sake, that the dispersant doesn't do lasting harm.
In regards to the toxicology of the dispersants to humans, I do know that people working in the gulf on ships in the area affected are being rotated off in 4 weekly cycles. I have a cousin on the skandi nepture (one of the rov ships) who I spoke to a few weeks ago on his downtime and he spoke of the constant smell in the air giving everyone headaches.
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;23387794]Southern farmers just poured oil all over the place to get some money. What a bunch of dicks, or perhaps the monster truck tipped or something. It's not like the entire gulf is filled with oil.[/QUOTE]
corexit is a chemical dispersant, they used that in the slick
the chemical dispersant got into the rain, which made it's way into the southern coast
corexit burns organic matter
[QUOTE=liquid_phase;23391251]You realise that oil is biodegradable right? And in a warm environment like the gulf, the process is expedited. So yeah it might be there for a while, but it won't be there forever.[/QUOTE]
Do you have any idea how long it takes crude oil to biodegrade??
[QUOTE=CPShArp;23392688]Do you have any idea how long it takes crude oil to biodegrade??[/QUOTE]
Sure, in warm, high oxygen environments a couple of years.
Doesn't really matter, the damage is already done.
Great, that's one less nightmare in the world. Only three trillion to go!
A feather in their cap.
An oil-soaked feather.
But a feather nonetheless.
Look at it droop.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;23392777]Doesn't really matter, the damage is already done.[/QUOTE]
Are you a marine biologist? Or are you just repeating what others have said?
hurr durr time for the methane to kill us
[QUOTE=IAmIchigo;23393566]hurr durr time for the methane to kill us[/QUOTE]
lol
[QUOTE=liquid_phase;23392810]Are you a marine biologist? Or are you just repeating what others have said?[/QUOTE]
We may have dodged a major bullet if the NOAA reports that the shrimp and fish that we eat are safe for consumption. The coastline is pretty fucked at the moment. The area around Louisiana is the most heavily oiled, and also probably the most delicate of the places reporting oil. The sea life should be alright now that we got the actual gusher taken care of, and each day survivability will increase. If we can keep the oil from getting onto the coastline, the majority of the damage is already done. The coast is already affected, and the vast area that is the BP spill zone is already a mixture of water, oil, and dispersant. As long as we keep the oil thats in the water from getting onto the coast, it can only get better from this point on. HOWEVER, reports have shown that oil raises arsenic levels in the ocean, which is toxic, and may find it's way into the food chain, It can disrupt the photosynthesis process in marine plants and increase the chances of genetic alterations that can cause birth defects and behavioral changes in aquatic life. It can also kill animals such as birds that feed on sea creatures affected by arsenic.There are also reports of oil getting between the skin of postlarval crabs which may also find its way into the food chain. [B]The physical damage is already done, the actual spill can only get better from this point on, but we will see the effects of the oil spill for years if not decades to come.[/B] Animals died from the spill that are endangered or close to it, but you can't really do anything about that, they should pop-back if we are lucky and don't do anything else to harm them. At this point we can only hope that the fisheries are not heavily damaged so that the southern economy can still survive.
Have a look at this cool interactive map from the NOAA: [url]http://gomex.erma.noaa.gov/erma.html#x=-89.66766&y=29.10658&z=8&layers=3796+6317+6378+5723+6463[/url]
[QUOTE=radioactive;23387986]It's not all bad, oil's just got up some rivers and damaged some agricultural land and covered a few birds, of course though the rivers and swamps are really filthy right now, but if people are so concerned about their beautiful land, they should get off their arses and clear it all up instead of just sitting there and blaming it on Obama, socialists and the English.[/QUOTE]
I also heard that an endangered species that was just found will most likely become extinct because of this. Also I heard over 20,000 sea turtles died from this spill.
What if the oil spill have mutated some animals with incredible powers?
ITT people say BP should have had a plan for this.
The BOP was the plan. [B]It fucking failed.[/B]
Realize that please. The original BOP failed for some reason (whether it was because the platform sank and tore it up or the shear rams were centered on a joint in the pipe). There is no other contingency plan other than to not drill at all.
It is extremely hard to get another 150,000 pound BOP in place over an already damaged pipe (which is why they wanted to try other things first).
The damage has already been done
[QUOTE=radioactive;23387049]All damage done is reversible.[/QUOTE]
I'll cut your arm off. Revert that
Good job.
Now get to work on cleaning your shit up so the people of Louisiana coastlines can get back on with their lives please.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;23396805]I'll cut your arm off. Revert that[/QUOTE]
Bionic Arm.
[QUOTE=FLAPJACKDANNY;23394706]I also heard that an endangered species that was just found will most likely become extinct because of this. Also I heard over 20,000 sea turtles died from this spill.[/QUOTE]
These things happen when you're at the top of the food chain and have the power to change everything.
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[QUOTE=General J;23397449]Good job.
Now get to work on cleaning your shit up so the people of Louisiana coastlines can get back on with their lives please.[/QUOTE]
They're probably going to need help with that, one company cannot clean up an oil spill, you need volunteers. There's plenty of unemployed people in the US that can do just that, there's plenty of farmers that have no crops any more due to the oil spill who can help. Everyone's just acting childish.
Fucking awesome!
[QUOTE=radioactive;23387986]It's not all bad, oil's just got up some rivers and damaged some agricultural land and covered a few birds, of course though the rivers and swamps are really filthy right now, but if people are so concerned about their beautiful land, they should get off their arses and clear it all up instead of just sitting there and blaming it on Obama, socialists and the English.[/QUOTE]
Why are you sounding like you said that that is all that happened?
[QUOTE=evilweazel;23405617]Why are you sounding like you said that that is all that happened?[/QUOTE]
It all depends how you are reading it in your head.
I would like to see what is at the bottom of the ocean near the gulf right now.
they are going to have fun cleaning the gulf for awhile!
About time..
[QUOTE=radioactive;23405944]It all depends how you are reading it in your head.[/QUOTE]
Well it killed god knows how many fish, and the count for dead sea turtles is somewhere around 20,000. And the swamps are more than filthy, they're dead. Some farmer's crops are completely destroyed, and that's pretty damn bad considering it's what pays their bills. It's not just a couple birds with oil on them and a dirty swamp, you know.
Shares aren't passing $37. If it goes up to $60 again, it's effectively made me $12000 richer.
And I still won't be able to use fucking paypal.
There still got a shitload to clean up.
[QUOTE=radioactive;23388524]I'm making a note here:
HUGE FAILURE[/QUOTE]
Its hard to overstate my complete and utter dismay.
But seriously, this isn't even close to the end of this disaster. This is going to have an impact for a LOOOONNNNG time.
Any news on the Sperm whales? Are they alright?
[QUOTE=radioactive;23387049]All damage done is reversible.[/QUOTE]
In the next hundred years please.
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