Hillary Clinton says she won't run for public office again - Polidicks

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;52072616]Thank Fuckingtyfuckfuck Thank FUCK. She would be an awful leader if ever some how given the chance. I realize I say that in the wake of trumps god awful leadership but at least that's one less lunatic to worry about being in office.[/QUOTE] compidency is not the same as idiocy though, she would have been fairly compident and put together an effective government, meanwhile trump bitched and moaned about his senate confirmations but has yet to staff any of the 2000 or so positions he can directly staff and went into a 1 on 1 diplomatic meeting with china without most of the state and policy departments that usually accompany them. clinton is now dead and buried though but the middle wing of the dnc is still clinging to things

[QUOTE=JeSuisIkea;52072722]No need to be an ass.[/QUOTE] Paramud posts like this all the time.

Bernie would have won.

[QUOTE=Llamaguy;52072837]Bernie would have won.[/QUOTE] Easily. He would have talked Trump into his own grave during those debates. Would have exposed everything.

[quote]In her first postelection interview, Clinton alluded to the pain of her loss of the presidency to Fuckface Von Clownstick, hinting that there were times she didn’t want to get out of bed.[/quote] THIS IS [B][I]CATHARTIC[/I][/B]

[QUOTE=Llamaguy;52072837]Bernie would have won.[/QUOTE] A wet paper towel would have won are you kidding [editline].[/editline] Though if it hadn't been for Hillary's media shenanigans, Trump probably wouldn't have won the Republican primaries. But even then, a less extreme Republican president winning against Bernie would have been better than how things actually turned out.

[QUOTE=srobins;52072504]How about you just fuck off forever and let someone else try to pick up the pieces, you've done enough damage as it is. What exactly qualifies you for being able to "help" the Democrats when it's almost entirely you and your campaign's fault that they're in such a poor state as it is?[/QUOTE] she could be useful for getting women and minorities on board with a more fiscally-left Democratic message - as Keith Ellison said, the choice between helping the working-class and helping minorities is a false one. that kind of message would heal the rift in the party almost instantly. she could even kind of do it without admitting she was wrong, just tunnel-visioned.

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52072814]Paramud posts like this all the time.[/QUOTE] As if it's feeling sorry for someone that just so happens to be disliked by a lot of people (For good reason in this case, but that's not going to morally stop someone from giving sympathy) actually hurts anyone.

I think FPers severely overestimate how well Bernie wouldve done in the debates (telling part: you think the facts matter) and underestimate how good of a foil Hillary was to Trump.

I think Bernie would've done well because he [i]would[/i] have campaigned in the rust belt. Aggressively so. For whatever you may label as Sanders' faults, he shows up and doesn't stay home. He doesn't rest on his laurels and expects victory - he fights for it. That and he's at least honest and respectable. Edit: The facts matter more when they're coming out of a mouth that people see as honest. They matter less when they're coming out of the mouth of someone who twists them on a regular basis.

I think having not having Sanders as the VP was one of the fatal errors. He was on a list of possible picks for VP. But what's past is past, and the future can be a Tabula Rasa if used correctly, though it's wise to consider past mistakes and how they occurred if you want to be somewhat more probable in success.

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52072570]Oh no so sad, these poor miserable millionaries are totally ruined because the matriarch is the most hated woman in America :( so sad, can we set her a GoFundMe? that poor miserable family :((( /s I'll play the world's tiniest violin to this moronic post.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry I forgot only poor people are capable of depression. Happiness is measured in dollars and all that glitters is gold. [editline]7th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52072814]Paramud posts like this all the time.[/QUOTE] What exactly do you mean by this, by the way?

[QUOTE=JeSuisIkea;52072722]No need to be an ass.[/QUOTE] Why not be an ass? People are actually feeling sorry for a fucking multi-millionaire ex-first lady who is largely responsible for the presidency of Donald J. Trump? Excused me for lacking sympathy for a power hungry egomaniac that managed to fumble what should have been the world's easiest election just by virtue of being a massive piece of shit who cannot into PR.

I actually wonder if Bernie still would beat Trump, and I mean in 2020. Being fucked by the DNC in the ass and just accepting it doesn't exactly make you look like a strong leader.

[editline]oh hamburgeras[/editline] -snip-

Hillary will be absolutely fine, but it's okay to be empathetic. The world isn't gonna end if people are.

[QUOTE=Oizen;52073400]I actually wonder if Bernie still would beat Trump, and I mean in 2020. Being fucked by the DNC in the ass and just accepting it doesn't exactly make you look like a strong leader.[/QUOTE] I'd sure as fuck vote for him, age be damned.

[QUOTE=Oizen;52073400]I actually wonder if Bernie still would beat Trump, and I mean in 2020. Being fucked by the DNC in the ass and just accepting it doesn't exactly make you look like a strong leader.[/QUOTE] I really hope so if he available to run again because vocal Anti-Bernie minority in this nation are still smearing about his age and health as excuse for not running again.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52072322]Thank fuck Maybe the Dems can actually win the next election now[/QUOTE] They could have won this time if they didn't forcefully decide on the wrong candidate.

The way I see it, he seems to be pretty damn healthy despite his age if all the traveling he's been doing post-election hasn't taken any obvious toll on him. (traveling that much can be rough, especially for older people) Even if he ends up croaking in office, I trust him to select a worthy successor as VP.

Bernie is astonishingly healthy for his age. I drove down to Concord NH with some volunteers to welcome him after the Iowa caucus, and it must've been 5am by the time he finally arrived at the hotel after flying in. (Keep in mind he had been campaigning hard in Iowa all day.) He walked out of the bus, looked at the hotel entrance, looked at the pickup truck with the mic and PA we had set up for him in the parking lot, and then climbed up into the truck bed and gave us an awesome stump speech. At 5 o'clock in the freaking morning. The guy is a machine. Sanders with a suitable VP in 2020 would absolutely wreck Trump. There are plenty of people (myself included) who will vote for Sanders if he runs again, no matter his age, and with an aggressive social media presence and the proper amount of grassroots fundraising the GOP superPACS wouldn't stand a chance. (This last bit isn't just me being optimistic, it's fact. Hillary Clinton actually ran out of money toward the end of her campaign because her big donors' pockets ran dry and people weren't exactly lining up to give her $27 donations. Meanwhile Trump was taking in thousands in small-dollar donations.)

She didn't want to get out of bed over losing a god damn election she may as well have lost on purpose with how she handled it? How pathetic. When the main objective of an election is to get people excited so they go to the voting booths, and you fail miserably at that with the most divisive president ever taking office you don't belong in any public office. Trump was filling up rallies and getting people fired up meanwhile she couldn't even fill a high school gymnasium. I can still remember the Verizon workers strike where Sanders was rallying with the workers and she was off giving some speech to corporate donors.

[QUOTE=General J;52072866]THIS IS [B][I]CATHARTIC[/I][/B][/QUOTE] I'm not sure I disagree. While I vehemently oppose her as a political entity, I feel somewhat bad for her. She's not dangerous anymore; she poses no threat to me. Causing her additional pain feels just as wrong as the death penalty. I'd feel the same for Trump. There has to be a reason to inflict pain. [editline]9th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=srobins;52073390]Why not be an ass? People are actually feeling sorry for a fucking multi-millionaire ex-first lady who is largely responsible for the presidency of Donald J. Trump? Excused me for lacking sympathy for a power hungry egomaniac that managed to fumble what should have been the world's easiest election just by virtue of being a massive piece of shit who cannot into PR.[/QUOTE] It's not sympathy we're talking about, but empathy. Empathy is when you feel what other people are feeling. In this case, we feel bad for Clinton because she's another human being in pain. I felt bad when I saw how defeated Trump looked in a recent press conference. I don't like seeing people like that. That's empathy.

I don't think you should underestimate her although we definitely have bigger fish to fry right now. I find it hard to have empathy for people that I cannot trust. I don't have enough faith in my own ability to consistently detect if the emotions are acted/planned or genuine. Especially not when the subjects in question have a record of lying about trivial things that do not matter for cheap sympathy points. Either way time is short and I can only extend my empathy to so many people. Clinton doesn't need or deserve my empathy and thus will never receive it.

[QUOTE=Govna;52072519]She should've spun it around and tiraded against the Electoral College. Gore needed to do the same after he won the 2000 election (Bush was defeated by more than 543,000 votes). I mean she [i]did[/i] actually win. Trump lost to her by almost 3 million votes, and that's a decisive fucking margin to beat somebody by when we're talking about the national popular vote. The majority of Americans who voted chose her and rejected him. But whatever. Politics is politics. At least you'll stop ruining the Democratic Party.[/QUOTE] We really need to cleanse the voting system, from start to end. It was mighty unfair that she essentially started with 500 delegates for the DNC ticket before the first convention. The entire system just needs a good purging.