Woolly Mammoth DNA Successfully Spliced Into Elephant Cells
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Wouldn't bringing back an extinct species be kind of futile? All the new diseases that have happened since they stopped evolving would fuck them up. Is there some way around that?
[QUOTE=Flyingman356;47391686]Wouldn't bringing back an extinct species be kind of futile? All the new diseases that have happened since they stopped evolving would fuck them up. Is there some way around that?[/QUOTE]
Yeah.
We just make more.
I want a mammoth wool jumper.
they'll start by call us daddy and mommy but we won't know that they will be plotting against humanity and that they will strike us when we least expect :tinfoil:
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I think that bringing species back that humanity specifically caused their extinction would be a productive decision. We just have to be careful and use it responsibly. Sorry guys, no sharktapous hybrids!
[QUOTE=woolio1;47390605]Wouldn't genetic programming basically be the end of hereditary cancers and genetic disorders as well?[/QUOTE]
More or less, hence the "save for fixing certain faulty genes", since that's where those problems originate from, errors in the randomly-generated code that is the result of billions of years worth of dice rolls.
[QUOTE=Jcw87;47391117]I hope this genetic programming doesn't end up like computer programming. Imagine "off-shore development teams" and "highly paid consultants" writing genetic code.[/QUOTE]
Sadly I imagine that's the route it's gonna go down, even if not in the public eye. Especially when we KNOW that many countries are going to slap serious limitations on genetic engineering, if not ban it outright, so naturally rich folk in "pure" nations would seek to secretly have groups in other countries perform genetic engineering for them.
[QUOTE=Flyingman356;47391686]Wouldn't bringing back an extinct species be kind of futile? All the new diseases that have happened since they stopped evolving would fuck them up. Is there some way around that?[/QUOTE]
That's assuming that the new diseases are transmissible, which would assume that the bacteria or viruses somehow evolved to target systems in extinct animals.
It's far more likely that the bacteria that these animals used to deal with has died out, probably with very little crossover with modern bacteria and viruses.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;47390313]reading "dna editing tool" makes me think of a big machine where some scientists press a few buttons and shit like a lion mixed with a fish comes out[/QUOTE]
Does it also go "beep boop" and works by pressing random keys on the keyboard just like in the cartoons?
[QUOTE=Flyingman356;47391686]Wouldn't bringing back an extinct species be kind of futile? All the new diseases that have happened since they stopped evolving would fuck them up. Is there some way around that?[/QUOTE]
Well, these are hybrids. It seems the intent is to progressively introduce more mammoth traits, so I imagine they would keep the elephant immune system while using the mammoth DNA for things that actually improve their ability to survive in colder climates.
It would be so cool if we did some more... domestic things like using it to change the growth hormones of cats to make them as large as a medium sized dog or something, a more docile tiger. All the fluff!
But this is pretty awesome, I look forward to the result.
[QUOTE=nuttyboffin;47395556]It would be so cool if we did some more... domestic things like using it to change the growth hormones of cats to make them as large as a medium sized dog or something, a more docile tiger. All the fluff!
But this is pretty awesome, I look forward to the result.[/QUOTE]
The problem with that is that cats aren't necessarily less vicious than tigers. They're just smaller.
Making them larger would just make them more dangerous.
[QUOTE=woolio1;47396923]The problem with that is that cats aren't necessarily less vicious than tigers. They're just smaller.
Making them larger would just make them more dangerous.[/QUOTE]
Plus imagine the fur balls.
There are definitely risks when you scale up a cat to the size of a Great Dane, but keep in mind that many of the larger dogs that aren't usually hostile. I mean, Akitas can be a handful but with the right training they can be great pets.
The same would go for domestic big cats, though that said feline mindsets are rather different from canine mindsets, since while a dog will be your best friend after a few good times, most cats I've met have been pretty damn aloof when you try for their affections. Hell, the Pubcat at the Hope is one of the most aloof queens I've ever met, except when she's hungry at which point she'll be more "forthcoming" to get people to feed her.
[QUOTE=OvB;47390259]Well, the guy says they want to set up vats ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_uterus[/url]) to breed them in so they can better control the engineering. It's not like they're going to make one and be done.
It's ear and fat genes, but its a first.
[url]http://www.popsci.com/woolly-mammoth-dna-brought-life-elephant-cells[/url][/QUOTE]
People risk life and limb in frigid arctic conditions to make loads of cash off of [i]crabs[/i], I doubt putting them somewhere cold will keep them safe once someone decides "Mammoth steak. I want one". :v:
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;47390313]reading "dna editing tool" makes me think of a big machine where some scientists press a few buttons and shit like a lion mixed with a fish comes out[/QUOTE]
geneticists confirmed for script kiddies
Are they social and cuddly?
Awesome. So how long until I can go to the Canadian wilderness and see herds of these guys chowing down on prairie grass?
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;47403237]People risk life and limb in frigid arctic conditions to make loads of cash off of [i]crabs[/i], I doubt putting them somewhere cold will keep them safe once someone decides "Mammoth steak. I want one". :v:[/QUOTE]
Of course they would, a single mammoth could probably feed a few hundred people, we should farm the ever loving fuck out of them.
[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;47406309]Of course they would, a single mammoth could probably feed a few hundred people, we should farm the ever loving fuck out of them.[/QUOTE]
That's the problem with something that big, it takes a long time to get a harvest-able animal, whereas we can achieve quicker turnarounds with cows, pigs, poultry, etc.
They take longer to give birth and longer to mature to adult animals that can procreate.
Also, elephants are pretty social and intelligent. I'm not sure if it's morally okay to eat them.
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;47406380]Also, elephants are pretty social and intelligent. I'm not sure if it's morally okay to eat them.[/QUOTE]
Pigs are one of the more intelligent mammals, but people eat them all the time.
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;47406380]Also, elephants are pretty social and intelligent. I'm not sure if it's morally okay to eat them.[/QUOTE]
Pigs and cows probably have feelings too but that doesn't stop bacon and fillet steak from tasting amazing.
[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;47406309]Of course they would, a single mammoth could probably feed a few hundred people, we should farm the ever loving fuck out of them.[/QUOTE]
It would probably be more sensible to put the mammoth hybrid in a wildlife preserve somewhere in the northern hemisphere.
[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;47406442]Pigs and cows probably have feelings too but that doesn't stop bacon and fillet steak from tasting amazing.[/QUOTE]
The emotion inside the meat makes it taste better. You can almost taste the sadness.
Also, I literally just had to write an argument paper on this ~a week ago. Crazy thing is though that the essay question's documents were referring to this kinda stuff as being possible in the next 5 years and the questions were made ~ December... And now we have this.
[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;47406309]Of course they would, a single mammoth could probably feed a few hundred people, we should farm the ever loving fuck out of them.[/QUOTE]
I was more thinking how terrible it would be to resurrect a species that has been extinct for the last 4,000 years or so, only for them to die out again because the Chinese are convinced their tusks give you stronger boners.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;47409633]I was more thinking how terrible it would be to resurrect a species that has been extinct for the last 4,000 years or so, only for them to die out again because the Chinese are convinced their tusks give you stronger boners.[/QUOTE]
So put the preserve in Canada.
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