• Immigrants should "benefit the UK" and earn a minimum of £31,000
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[QUOTE=RichardCQ;34527865]But if I did your work for you then I'd be stealing your job![/QUOTE] A job is defined as: A paid position of regular employment. Therefore, your shitty comeback is now shittier. [editline]3rd February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=NoDachi;34527868]What makes you think that is the reason your family was fired? Were you present when such decisions were being made in the office?[/QUOTE] No. But I do know that it was because of Poles as I go into the shop regularly and saw my family replaced with them. You're a loyal citizen aren't you?
[QUOTE=Erasus;34527888]No. But I do know that it was because of Poles as I go into the shop regularly and saw my family replaced with them. [/QUOTE] ~CaSe~ solved Did your families case get thrown out at the Unfair Dismissal court?
[QUOTE=NoDachi;34527932]~CaSe~ solved[/QUOTE] Yeah? Immigrants need to gtfo. See I can be stupid too.
[QUOTE=Erasus;34527888] No. But I do know that it was because of Poles as I go into the shop regularly and saw my family replaced with them. You're a loyal citizen aren't you?[/QUOTE] You are physically incapable of supplying anything but circumstantial evidence, aren't you? [quote] A job is defined as: A paid position of regular employment. Therefore, your shitty comeback is now shittier. [/quote] There is more than one definition of the word job. Did you know that job is also defined as a crime (esp. a robbery), a responsibility, and "a thing of a specified nature?" [url]https://www.google.com/search?&q=define:job[/url] [editline]1[/editline] [QUOTE=joshdasmif;34527945]I can be stupid too.[/QUOTE] I don't think anyone was disputing that.
If your occupation is on the skilled list, which is very broad and covers everything from plumbers and welders to primary school teachers and doctors, then you get permanent residency. [quote]Australian permanent residents can: live and work in Australia on a permanent basis study in Australia at school, Vocational Education and Training (VET) sector or university receive subsidised healthcare through Medicare and the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS) access certain social security payments (subject to waiting periods) be eligible for Australian citizenship (subject to the residency eligibility criteria) sponsor people for permanent residence.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Erasus;34527888]You're a loyal citizen aren't you?[/QUOTE] [img]http://sitemaker.umich.edu/youthunderfascism/files/girls.jpg[/img] one of the best
[QUOTE=RichardCQ;34527949]You are physically incapable of supplying anything but circumstantial evidence, aren't you? There is more than one definition of the word job. Did you know that job is also defined as a crime (esp. a robbery), a responsibility, and "a thing of a specified nature?" [url]https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=define:job[/url][/QUOTE] Yeah but I can't even rob no more, all the shops were robbed by immigrants too! [editline]3rd February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=NoDachi;34527965]one of the best[/QUOTE] You have I great attitude. I hate you.
[QUOTE=joshdasmif;34527966]Yeah but I can't even rob no more, all the shops were robbed by immigrants too![/QUOTE] That should be illegal.
[QUOTE=joshdasmif;34527966]You have I great attitude. I hate you.[/QUOTE] Send me to the camps with the rest of the sympathisers!
[QUOTE=RichardCQ;34527981]That should be illegal.[/QUOTE] Something I am sure we both can agree on.
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[QUOTE=MingeCrab;34528010]i like money[/QUOTE] we r so similr
Well, y'see, the flaw with the whole "dey terk er jerbs" argument is that we need to stop drawing a line between immigrants and Brits. So let's think of them both as people in a difficult time trying to make money, okay? So we've got two people, one of whom just [I][B]happens[/B][/I] to be an immigrant, and one who was born in Britain. One of them says "I want to earn twelve pounds an hour at this job" and the other says "I am alright with earning six pounds an hour if it means I will make money." Would you really be surprised if the second guy gets hired and the first isn't? Of course not. The first guy isn't being unreasonable sure, but the second really wants a job and is willing to suffer for it. It's only reasonable he get the job when he's going to work hard for it. Basically, a Brit that isn't willing to work for say, six pounds an hour, is falling to pride. That's the world we live in I'm afraid, and people will have to do things they don't want to if they want money. If an immigrant is willing to do that, good for them. If a Brit isn't and they're sticking their noses up at it, then they simply can't live in a competetive market. I mean, referring to what I said above, a job's going to get done regardless of how many people there are, so why should it matter who does it and for what price? For every immigrant who's willing to do their job there's someone who's said they aren't going to do that job. So are you really surprised someone's taken a job? What do you expect someone to do if they need money, refuse the job specifically so someone else can have it? No, the only reason anyone turns their nose up is because they aren't willing to make money in a market that demands they do. And if an immigrant is willing to do something someone else isn't, I think they very well deserve their money. It all boils down to petty xenophobia and egocentric interests at the end of the day, and quite frankly I'm not entirely surprised so many people put Daily Mail logic ahead of their base reasoning.
This makes little to no sense, really. The majority of immigrants come from inside the EU, so this won't affect them. The majority of immigrants from outside the EU have no recourse to public funds, so if they're employed and paying tax the country will be making money off them pretty much regardless of how much they earn. This policy will do jack shit to reduce immigration, and might even reduce the amount of tax the government recieves.
Great. So that means I can't move to England because I don't have a job or degree right? I'm an american if you're wondering.
[QUOTE=Xystus234;34529428]Great. So that means I can't move to England because I don't have a job or degree right? I'm an american if you're wondering.[/QUOTE] come here instead! we're better and our economy isn't in the toilet [editline]4th February 2012[/editline] easier access to visas as well because of the US-AUS FTA
[QUOTE=Contag;34529717]come here instead! we're better and our economy isn't in the toilet [editline]4th February 2012[/editline] easier access to visas as well because of the US-AUS FTA[/QUOTE] Gladly. Will they accept those without a steady income?
[QUOTE=Contag;34527832]That doesn't sound right at all. You can move here if you're a skilled worker who will be employed between one day and four years, for four years before you have to renew. You can bring over your family, including same-sex partners, and apply for citizenship. If you're a student, your parents can come over, and you just need to be accepted into a course here to be eligible for a student visa.[/QUOTE] But I meant being unemployed and too old for Uni. This is just me, and I might sound like a BNP supporter or whatever (which I'm really not) but I personally believe that to enter our country you should deserve to do so. I think unless it's for education, marriage or a few other circumstances you really should be able to benefit our country with things like skills or money for our economy.
[QUOTE=joshdasmif;34527590]Nah I just can't be bothered arguing any more, [b]get enough of that from my girl.[/b][/QUOTE] hahahahahahaha, very smooth
[QUOTE=Xystus234;34529762]Gladly. Will they accept those without a steady income?[/QUOTE] If you enroll in any kind of course, whether it's learning how to weld or design nuclear reactors, or being a hairdresser, you'll be able to get in under a student visa because you're from the states, it's easier for you than other visa applicants then you can apply for permanent residency if your eventual occupation is on this list [url]http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/transitional/_pdf/sol-twoabc.pdf[/url]
[QUOTE=Erasus;34527844]Why do you need sources for everything? Google it, I know I'm right as I've experienced it and seen my own family fired because these foreigners work for fuck all, and they work for fuck all because of the benefits they receive, if you're so bothered about contradicting me, do the work yourself. You can fuck off if you think I'm going to research for you when you don't even live in my country.[/QUOTE] that's the spirit [editline]3rd February 2012[/editline] fuck the foreigners etc
[QUOTE=Erasus;34527633]Why should we? We shouldn't have to work for less than we were because some foreigners want our jobs. Firstly, my Mother is a hairdresser and has two shops where she does hair, the new hairdressers opening down the street is Polish, they're doing better because they're cheaper. You know why they're cheaper? The government give them a years free rent and set everything up for them, this isn't racism, xenophobia or anything else. These people are taking the piss and taking our jobs.[/QUOTE] i find this kind of liberal thought hilarious. capitalists employ the cheapest possible labour to maximise their profits, and you blame the foreigners who're willing to be that cheap labour rather than the system that makes 'taking your jobs' possible? i suppose this is the kind of unbelievable ignorance that spawns right-wing fascist tools like that joshdasmif guy.
[QUOTE=Contag;34529717]come here instead! we're better and our economy isn't in the toilet [editline]4th February 2012[/editline] easier access to visas as well because of the US-AUS FTA[/QUOTE] With your crazy goddamn spiders? Fuck that noise. I mean, christ, now the news is talking about giving you elephants. By the time he got over there they'd probably have evolved to be poisonous and spit fire. [QUOTE=Contag;34529970]If you enroll in any kind of course, whether it's learning how to weld or design nuclear reactors, or being a hairdresser, you'll be able to get in under a student visa[/QUOTE] Ooh...do you know if you guys have any schools that place well internationally for nuclear engineering/physics?
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;34536630] Ooh...do you know if you guys have any schools that place well internationally for nuclear engineering/physics?[/QUOTE] My university, the University of Melbourne, ranks 25th worldwide in engineering and technology If you were intending on studying nuclear engineering with a view to biomedical applications, Melbourne would be a good choice grad and postgrad research is also a possibility [editline]4th February 2012[/editline] UNSW (or USYD I can't really remember) is also pretty high ranked, and you won't have to drive as far to play around at the Lucas Heights research reactor
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