China's First-Person Military Shooter Has a Terrible Message - Polidicks

[QUOTE=snapshot32;41723511]This. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Army[/url] America's Army was admitted to be a cost-effective a recruitment tool aimed at showing how army life is 'so great'. Casey Wardynski and is managed by the U.S. Army's Office of Economic and Manpower Analysis at the United States Military Academy.[2] Wardynski envisioned "using computer game technology to provide the public a virtual Soldier experience that was engaging, informative and entertaining." Honestly, there is really nothing wrong with this game other than the fact your looking at it with an outsiders perspective. In America's army you have several instances where you kill unknown 'turrests' from east asia all the while you are subjugated to the 'Merica mantra throughout the game. This is literally no different, and it's quite amusing to see people try and bash it because of it's propagandist nature.[/QUOTE] Except it is completely different and it's not even half as murrica' biased as Call of Duty/Battlefield even though it's made by the fucking government. But look at Glorious Mission Online. Even the name is sort of hilarious in stereotypical way. And then you're slaughtering unrealistically portrayed Japanese soldiers in a real world conflict where they didn't even try and show the other perspective. It's basically this except chinese and a bit more serious. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_msAKWdOs[/media]

[QUOTE=Falchion;41723557]the most obvious difference is the blatancy[/QUOTE] Not really, in the America's Army series, the U.S. Army takes just about every opportunity imaginable to subject you to romanticized combat bullshit, all while promoting and linking their website in hopes you've been 'persuaded' enough to tryout the army life. The game is quite literally the same thing, albeit less blatant about portraying enemies.

[QUOTE=KorJax;41723489]America's Army isn't really the same thing at all You fight in completely fictional areas with completely fictional scenarios, with each level being basically made to simulate various scenarios that the army would face instead of being about killing a specific threat The enemies were non-descript soviet-bloc terrorists that all wore masks. It was never implied that they were russian or anything in particular, the only thing that even hinted at an eastern european origin was that they spoke russian. Some missions you had to play with "local militia" too so you weren't always fighting as the US, such as missions where some members of the squad would be apart of the afghan army.[/QUOTE] Not to mention that America's Army is actually fun

[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;41723740]Except it is completely different and it's not even half as murrica' biased as Call of Duty/Battlefield even though it's made by the fucking government. But look at Glorious Mission Online. Even the name is sort of hilarious in stereotypical way. And then you're slaughtering unrealistically portrayed Japanese soldiers in a real world conflict where they didn't even try and show the other perspective. It's basically this except chinese and a bit more serious.[/QUOTE] The Chinese did attempt to emulate call of duty, and it is way more blatant about it's portrayal of the Japanese, however this game and America's army are just about on par with the romanticism of the army life and it's propagandist nature. In short, while America's Army is more sensitive about the portrayal of enemies, it takes every opportunity to whore out their recruitment website similar to this game.

[QUOTE=snapshot32;41723759]Not really, in the America's Army series, the U.S. Army takes just about every opportunity imaginable to subject you to romanticized combat bullshit, all while promoting and linking their website in hopes you've been 'persuaded' enough to tryout the army life. The game is quite literally the same thing, albeit less blatant about portraying enemies.[/QUOTE] I kinda sorta actually like how America's Army did the enemy-thing, I guess. Y'know, the way you're always fighting a kinda fictional, generic opfor, and you're always the US team; and the other team sees you as generic opfor and themselves as US?

This is not China's first modern-era FPS shooter, at least not the first to hit the market as there was a similar game a couple of years ago that featured PLA forces vs. American forces (Glorious Revolution, 2011 - same developer). I don't see much wrong with this though considering I just got done slaughtering PLA in project-reality and even vanilla BF2 has just as much nationalism, although obviously this game is not trying to be as serious or subtle. If anything it seems to me overly-judging games like this from China or Russia would be really hypocritical if you don't share similar judgement on Call of Duty, Battlefield, etc. which do similar things.

[QUOTE=Looter;41724311]If anything it seems to me overly-judging games like this from China or Russia would be really hypocritical if you don't share similar judgement on Call of Duty, Battlefield, etc. which do similar things.[/QUOTE] Call of Duty is just stupid in general, Battlefield is kind of stupid, but fun to play.

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I don't remember the AA games being "'murcia", whatever the fuck that means anyway. Kinda dramatized sure but it's a video game made primarily as a recruiting tool, don't know what you would expect :v:

[QUOTE=Looter;41724311] If anything it seems to me overly-judging games like this from China or Russia would be really hypocritical if you don't share similar judgement on Call of Duty, Battlefield, etc. which do similar things.[/QUOTE] Well, there was that one Vietnamese literally-a-Call-of-Duty-clone-like-same-fucking-engine-and-models-and-sounds-and-all that actually was fairly good, despite being eastern and nationalistic and showing the west as enemies.

[QUOTE=Riller;41724525]Well, there was that one Vietnamese literally-a-Call-of-Duty-clone-like-same-fucking-engine-and-models-and-sounds-and-all that actually was fairly good, despite being eastern and nationalistic and showing the west as enemies.[/QUOTE] Makes sense I guess, it's just what consumers want but with their own branding on top of it all. At least all these games no matter where they are from have one thing in common - boring, shitty game-play that's been old for over a decade now, for me anyway.

Ofcourse if you make a game and you make one nation/faction/side play the protagonists, the antagonists are probably going to be a nation/faction/side that is or would most likely be the antagonists in the time and place the game is set. [editline]6th August 2013[/editline] The protagonists and antagonists in Call of Duty are very much individual characters, and I really don't agree with anybody who says that it's portraying the US as a heroic country, Reznov, Price, Foley, Soap etc are the heroic soldiers in CoD, in fact the nations themselves only play minor roles in Call of Duty :v:

[QUOTE=snapshot32;41723759]Not really, in the America's Army series, the U.S. Army takes just about every opportunity imaginable to subject you to romanticized combat bullshit, all while promoting and linking their website in hopes you've been 'persuaded' enough to tryout the army life. The game is quite literally the same thing, albeit less blatant about portraying enemies.[/QUOTE] dunno, I played AA2:SF a shit ton and from it, and from it I thought combat was a shitload more scary than I would have from playing CoDs. AA2 actually sort of made me hope that I would never get in a firefight against a organized force, because it was so easy to fuck up, all the angles and shit I still remember hospital and bridge by heart lol.

America's Army 2 was really fun when I played with a bunch of friends. No idea about AA3 though

Being honest here, I would love to play a game set during the Second Sino-Japanese War, but done the right way.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;41722368]Yeah, but that isn't a government-funded military simulator.[/QUOTE] not like america's army has a lot of questionable very propagandist ideas as well.

Surprised that no-ones posted the download link for it yet; [URL="http://www.plagame.cn//channel/downloadol/index.html"]Download[/URL] (It's the first white button)

[QUOTE=Ruskie;41727167]Surprised that no-ones posted the download link for it yet; [URL="http://www.plagame.cn//channel/downloadol/index.html"]Download[/URL] (It's the first white button)[/QUOTE] I'll put that in the OP, I wasn't able to find one.

[QUOTE=wraithcat;41727151]not like america's army has a lot of questionable very propagandist ideas as well.[/QUOTE] Is it? Such as? AA is actually remarkably devoid of any sort of propaganda. Hell COD has more pro US propganda and more military "porn", especially considering AA lacks any sort of political commentary or "good guy/bad guy" dynamic.

[QUOTE=Riller;41724525]Well, there was that one Vietnamese literally-a-Call-of-Duty-clone-like-same-fucking-engine-and-models-and-sounds-and-all that actually was fairly good, despite being eastern and nationalistic and showing the west as enemies.[/QUOTE] Doesn't look like they ripped any animations/models/etc. at all so I don't know what you're talking about. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ZeUkWOTIc&feature=player_embedded[/media]