• Tea Party Milita Men intend to restore the Constitution
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I bet these Tea-Partiers didn't even vote on issues and instead just cry and brandish guns about it.
hey guys i'm here to shoot police to restore the consitution :downs: fuck tha poleez yo
[QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]They are actually. But from this thread I can tell most people think otherwise because they have no brain.[/QUOTE] These people are stupid because they don't agree with me. [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]God forbid people be angry at the moron for trying to destroy our country even more. This dumbass puppet is fucking more shit up that Bush could have ever fucked up.[/QUOTE] It's true! I heard it on Fox News. [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]Not saying G-Dub was good. They are both big steaming piles of dog shit. Everybody seems to be on the disagree with the prez you're racist, you're a bigot, change is good bandwagon.[/QUOTE] I'm pulling the race card here, ignoring the hypocrisy in being the first one to pull it. Also, abandon all hope that anything will ever change. You go places by staying put. [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]Oh and god help you if you are a black tea party participant, you are a "traitor" according to news articles I have read. Not many people really see what he is doing. They just agree with what is popular, or the "TREND" it makes them hip and conforming to the norms.[/QUOTE] Or so I have heard. Obviously a few people acting dumb is indicative of anyone who doesn't support the Tea Party. [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]Not many people really see what he is doing. They just agree with what is popular, or the "TREND" it makes them hip and conforming to the norms.[/QUOTE] At least that's what Glenn Beck says. Nobody just follows him mindlessly. Hang on, I think his show's on... if I miss it I won't know what those Obama-supporting radicals are up to. [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]Most tea-party participants research this stuff and go to meetings to learn more about it. They are out there because they know what is really going on and don't buy into the rainbows and unicorns this idiot is promising.[/QUOTE] Tea Party rallies are the only source of uncorrupted information we have left! All those people reading biased news and doing false research are in for a huge surprise when Hitler takes his Obama mask off!! [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]So many people think this guy is great but wait till the tax increases and the health care bill goes in to effect. If you don't have health care from your work, you owe the government for health care even if you don't use it, if you don't pay, they garnish your paychecks, bank accounts, and can even seize your personal property.[/QUOTE] Paying for insurance you don't always use? That has never happened before. Also, did you know that you'll get in trouble if you don't pay your taxes? It's true! Even if you don't support the stuff your taxes are paying for, those communistic fuckwads will bring the law down on you! Scary fucking shit. [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]Reason is, instead of a collection agency coming after you that you can settle with, it will be the IRS(which they are hiring thousands of new IRS agents WOO! >:( ), and you don't fuck with the IRS. I also don't think there is an opt-out for it either. It's going to be like social security.[/QUOTE] Fuck those people who are doing their jobs! They're already taking a dollar a week out of my paycheck for Social[i]ism[/i] Security, and now a buck or two of my hard-earned office-job paycheck is going to help someone poor get healthy? Fuck that shit! Now where's my copy of Ayn Rand? [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]He's just doing so many things that are going to harm our way of life and how our country works.[/QUOTE] He passed a Health Care Reform bill, people! Hit the fucking deck! [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]He is working on a bill that will give the secretary of the treasury(not sure if it is this person or another person but it is someone) full rights to take over a company if they think it is "too big to fail."[/QUOTE] The economy can regulate itself! It's worked so well, especially recently! [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]They are trying to pass a bill making it so you cannot contest your tax return, or screw ups the IRS made. So lets say you were over taxed for 6 months. Well that's too bad. Can't do shit.[/QUOTE] I'm totally not talking out of my ass here. The only reason why you can't find any information to back up this claim is because Obama is seizing the mediums of free speech. [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]He really wants to get rid of talk radio. They want to tax free radio. Why? Simple! To limit free speech in any way they can to keep people from seeing the truth, and so many people buy it right up like the brainless retards they are. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/18/white-house-obama-opposes-fairness-doctrine-revival/[/url] He's already started editing our news sources!! Hold on to your First Amendments, folks!! [QUOTE=Sgt.Sgt;21460267]That is my view I would type more but this is Facepunch and discussing politics here never ends well.[/QUOTE] Or, rather, it's the view that the Tea Party tells me to have. And, rather, I'd type more but I've already exhausted my anti-Obama talking points. I gotta go grab more from some conservative blogs, brb.
All hail the Enclave!
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This is getting way out of hand.
It's their right to protest/be stupid/be bigots/waste their money/scream and yell/watch fox news/be fat
[QUOTE=Bathacker;21460836] Fuck those people who are doing their jobs! They're already taking a dollar a week out of my paycheck for Social[I]ism[/I] Security, and now a buck or two of my hard-earned office-job paycheck is going to help someone poor get healthy? Fuck that shit! Now where's my copy of Ayn Rand? [/QUOTE] If you actually had a job and paid taxes you'd know it's a lot more than 3 bucks a week. It's about 10% a week for me, and I don't even make that much. (And I don't even have my federal taxes withheld from me, which is like another 5%) I'd be below the poverty line. That means I only have 80-90% of what I should have. Do you think poor people need 10% of their income taken from them if they can barely afford to feed themselves? Should the wealthy pay extra just because they have more? No. There should be no federal taxes. State taxes are another issue that I don't want to go into, but states provide actual services like roads, schools, and police. All the Federal government does is pay for the army, Social Security, and Medicare pretty much. [quote] The economy can regulate itself! It's worked so well, especially recently! [/quote]It actually does. If the market was allowed to work as it was supposed to Goldman Sachs, AIG, et al would have been wiped off the face of the earth. But now that the government has resurrected them, they're free to screw up yet again and take even bigger risks knowing that if they lose they'll get another chance. If you were at a casino and you knew that even if you lost, you'd have your loses replenished by somebody else and you get to keep the winnings too, wouldn't you bet everything you had every time? The market is supposed to destroy those who mess up. But both Bush and Obama wouldn't allow that. I could still argue that the market before the crash wasn't even a true free market; it was already regulated to hell.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;21461334]If you actually had a job and paid taxes you'd know it's a lot more than 3 bucks a week. It's about 10% a week for me, and I don't even make that much. (And I don't even have my federal taxes withheld from me, which is like another 5%) I'd be below the poverty line. That means I only have 80-90% of what I should have. Do you think poor people need 10% of their income taken from them if they can barely afford to feed themselves? Should the wealthy pay extra just because they have more? No. There should be no federal taxes. State taxes are another issue that I don't want to go into, but states provide actual services like roads, schools, and police. All the Federal government does is pay for the army, Social Security, and Medicare pretty much. It actually does. If the market was allowed to work as it was supposed to Goldman Sachs, AIG, et al would have been wiped off the face of the earth. But now that the government has resurrected them, they're free to screw up yet again and take even bigger risks knowing that if they lose they'll get another chance. If you were at a casino and you knew that even if you lost, you'd have your loses replenished by somebody else and you get to keep the winnings too, wouldn't you bet everything you had every time? The market is supposed to destroy those who mess up. But both Bush and Obama wouldn't allow that. I could still argue that the market before the crash wasn't even a true free market; it was already regulated to hell.[/QUOTE] Truly free markets have been demonstrated to not work. You can fight for it all you want, but you won't be someone rich, or middle class, you'll be an impoverished slave.
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21461652]Truly free markets have been demonstrated to not work. You can fight for it all you want, but you won't be someone rich, or middle class, you'll be an impoverished slave.[/QUOTE] People only support free markets because they're clinging to the dream that one day they'll be very successful. One day society will get past that, hopefully.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21462174]People only support free markets because they're clinging to the dream that one day they'll be very successful. One day society will get past that, hopefully.[/QUOTE] I only wish I could be so hopeful. People are selfish creatures and ignore everything that they can that doesn't pertain directly to them. While this isn't a bad thing, sometimes it can be, and when it applies to politics, it's almost always a bad thing.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;21461334]If you actually had a job and paid taxes you'd know it's a lot more than 3 bucks a week. It's about 10% a week for me, and I don't even make that much. (And I don't even have my federal taxes withheld from me, which is like another 5%) I'd be below the poverty line. That means I only have 80-90% of what I should have.[/QUOTE] First of all, I just recently lost my job that I'd had for four years. My fault, I got fired because of a really dumb mistake I made, but I know what it means to work a 9-to-5 (or, in this case, a 2-to-10). Second, I was talking exclusively about Social Security, and, okay, it was three in the morning and I made a mistake in my math. Looking at my W-2, I payed about $28 a week into Social Security. Consider this my public apology, everyone. However, my point still stands. For the last six years, I've been paying taxes to fund a war that I have [i]never[/i] supported for any reason. But if I stop paying my taxes, I go to jail just like any other deadbeat. Sgt Sgt was acting like "having to pay for things you don't support or else you get in trouble" was some kind of novel concept. [QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;21461334]Do you think poor people need 10% of their income taken from them if they can barely afford to feed themselves? Should the wealthy pay extra just because they have more? No. There should be no federal taxes. State taxes are another issue that I don't want to go into, but states provide actual services like roads, schools, and police. All the Federal government does is pay for the army, Social Security, and Medicare pretty much.[/quote] "Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?" Seriously, cut the objectivist bullshit. The privileged give up a foot on their yacht and some poor person gets to live through a treatable illness. Also, the poor pay very little taxes and there are a lot more things the federal government pays for. Read a book. [QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;21461334]It actually does. If the market was allowed to work as it was supposed to Goldman Sachs, AIG, et al would have been wiped off the face of the earth. But now that the government has resurrected them, they're free to screw up yet again and take even bigger risks knowing that if they lose they'll get another chance. If you were at a casino and you knew that even if you lost, you'd have your loses replenished by somebody else and you get to keep the winnings too, wouldn't you bet everything you had every time? The market is supposed to destroy those who mess up. But both Bush and Obama wouldn't allow that. I could still argue that the market before the crash wasn't even a true free market; it was already regulated to hell.[/QUOTE] Where have you been over the last five or six years? Companies have proven several times over that they're perfectly willing to fuck over the masses for a quick buck, even if they're doing just fine. Goldman Sachs is getting nailed for fraud right now because it gave people mortgages that they knew wouldn't be repaid and tried to make money off of the insurance they took out against those mortgages. The market has proven again and again and again that it will run with whatever freedom you give it as far as it can take it. I say good on any and all politicians who want to put a leash on big business. And I'm going to explain something about the bailouts. Their intent was to save jobs by subsidizing these "too big to fail" companies into not declaring bankruptcy. GM alone had something like 150,000 workers who stood to lose their jobs if nothing was done. Sure, it didn't get appropriated properly, but that was largely due to improper wording of the bailout and the greed of American business. See, that's what no one who supports this "totally free market" wet dream realizes: people are fucking greedy. Give someone the ability to exploit the market to make money and they will. It's the same reason why a totally communistic market wouldn't work. You can't rely on the good nature and selflessness of humans when it comes to money.
[QUOTE=Bathacker;21464238]First of all, I just recently lost my job that I'd had for four years. My fault, I got fired because of a really dumb mistake I made, but I know what it means to work a 9-to-5 (or, in this case, a 2-to-10). Second, I was talking exclusively about Social Security, and, okay, it was three in the morning and I made a mistake in my math. Looking at my W-2, I payed about $28 a week into Social Security. Consider this my public apology, everyone. However, my point still stands. For the last six years, I've been paying taxes to fund a war that I have [i]never[/i] supported for any reason. But if I stop paying my taxes, I go to jail just like any other deadbeat. Sgt Sgt was acting like "having to pay for things you don't support or else you get in trouble" was some kind of novel concept. "Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?" Seriously, cut the objectivist bullshit. The privileged give up a foot on their yacht and some poor person gets to live through a treatable illness. Also, the poor pay very little taxes and there are a lot more things the federal government pays for. Read a book. Where have you been over the last five or six years? Companies have proven several times over that they're perfectly willing to fuck over the masses for a quick buck, even if they're doing just fine. Goldman Sachs is getting nailed for fraud right now because it gave people mortgages that they knew wouldn't be repaid and tried to make money off of the insurance they took out against those mortgages. The market has proven again and again and again that it will run with whatever freedom you give it as far as it can take it. I say good on any and all politicians who want to put a leash on big business. And I'm going to explain something about the bailouts. Their intent was to save jobs by subsidizing these "too big to fail" companies into not declaring bankruptcy. GM alone had something like 150,000 workers who stood to lose their jobs if nothing was done. Sure, it didn't get appropriated properly, but that was largely due to improper wording of the bailout and the greed of American business. See, that's what no one who supports this "totally free market" wet dream realizes: people are fucking greedy. Give someone the ability to exploit the market to make money and they will. It's the same reason why a totally communistic market wouldn't work. You can't rely on the good nature and selflessness of humans when it comes to money.[/QUOTE] Couldn't have said it better myself. There is a reason why people can't have full freedom. People are greedy, stupid, aggressive, and generally unfit to decide what to do with their own life, let alone with the life of others. (Note: I say generally, as a decent part of the human population actually has the common sense to do the right thing)
Ahaha, fat idiots with guns. Tremble, society!
[QUOTE=Lambeth;21440668]Guns are scary things regardless of who or how many are holding them.[/QUOTE] Kind of true. Child Soldiers in war zones scare the shit out of me. They have less moral values than older people because they haven't had any time to develop any. By the time they have, they'll think murder is the answer to everything. 1 + 1 = I KILL YOU
[QUOTE=The DooD;21465292]Kind of true. Child Soldiers in war zones scare the shit out of me. They have less moral values than older people because they haven't had any time to develop any. By the time they have, they'll think murder is the answer to everything. 1 + 1 = I KILL YOU[/QUOTE] It's not that they have less moral values, it's that they've been taught different moral values. Namely, that killing the other guy is good.
Even better.
Haha half of these Tea Party idiots are in a serious need of a blowjob or something.
[QUOTE=Bathacker;21464238]First of all, I just recently lost my job that I'd had for four years. My fault, I got fired because of a really dumb mistake I made, but I know what it means to work a 9-to-5 (or, in this case, a 2-to-10). Second, I was talking exclusively about Social Security, and, okay, it was three in the morning and I made a mistake in my math. Looking at my W-2, I payed about $28 a week into Social Security. Consider this my public apology, everyone. However, my point still stands. For the last six years, I've been paying taxes to fund a war that I have [i]never[/i] supported for any reason. But if I stop paying my taxes, I go to jail just like any other deadbeat. Sgt Sgt was acting like "having to pay for things you don't support or else you get in trouble" was some kind of novel concept. "Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?" Seriously, cut the objectivist bullshit. The privileged give up a foot on their yacht and some poor person gets to live through a treatable illness. Also, the poor pay very little taxes and there are a lot more things the federal government pays for. Read a book. Where have you been over the last five or six years? Companies have proven several times over that they're perfectly willing to fuck over the masses for a quick buck, even if they're doing just fine. Goldman Sachs is getting nailed for fraud right now because it gave people mortgages that they knew wouldn't be repaid and tried to make money off of the insurance they took out against those mortgages. The market has proven again and again and again that it will run with whatever freedom you give it as far as it can take it. I say good on any and all politicians who want to put a leash on big business. And I'm going to explain something about the bailouts. Their intent was to save jobs by subsidizing these "too big to fail" companies into not declaring bankruptcy. GM alone had something like 150,000 workers who stood to lose their jobs if nothing was done. Sure, it didn't get appropriated properly, but that was largely due to improper wording of the bailout and the greed of American business. See, that's what no one who supports this "totally free market" wet dream realizes: people are fucking greedy. Give someone the ability to exploit the market to make money and they will. It's the same reason why a totally communistic market wouldn't work. You can't rely on the good nature and selflessness of humans when it comes to money.[/QUOTE] I would like to give you a hug for typing all that out and suitably destroying objectivist arguments.
[QUOTE=heatsketch;21442196]You know a large portion of the Tea Party consists of Libertarians and Independants who were just as angry during the Bush years, but didn't get any attention because Fox News didn't give it to them, right? Now that Obama is in office, Fox was more than happy to give coverage to a movement that could damage him. More than could be said for the other networks. [editline]06:51AM[/editline] Obama is a Christian if you consider Liberation Theology Christian. I do, but it is an extremely radical sect riven with Marxist ideas.[/QUOTE] Religion doesn't equal ideology, you're retarded. [editline]11:50AM[/editline] I like how the guy with a rifle has shorts on. Weekend warrior.
How a religion could be an ideology that opposes religion is beyond me. The words socialism,marxism, and communism are losing their meaning, thanks to the politically illiterate right wing.
I'll laugh if some passerby in the future just grabs a gun and starts shooting people. Or a kid.
[QUOTE=Conscript;21466892]How a religion could be an ideology that opposes religion is beyond me. The words socialism,marxism, and communism are losing their meaning, thanks to the politically illiterate right wing.[/QUOTE] socialism doesn't oppose religion. There are some varieties of socialism that oppose religion, but it is not an inherently anti-religious ideology
[QUOTE=dj0wns;21459499]Why can't the US be more like Europe where there are 6+ parties that have a chance to be elected[/QUOTE]Honestly I wish it was.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;21467566]socialism doesn't oppose religion. There are some varieties of socialism that oppose religion, but it is not an inherently anti-religious ideology[/QUOTE] I'd disagree. But that's not what I was saying, I was talking about marxism in the first sentence.
[QUOTE=Bathacker;21458606]Fucking hypocrites. Honestly. This only comes up once health care reform comes through. That's when we need to limit the government's power. Not when we wage a pointless war, not when the Patriot Act gets enacted, not when we have secret prisons and wire taps and who knows what the fuck else... No, it's fucking health care. That's when the government has overstepped its bounds. People like you make me sick.[/QUOTE] Simply Because I want the Commence Clause Limited and I a Group's Right to lawfully protest doesn't mean I Supported the retarded War Bush got us into over invisible WMDs, which was made more retarded when North Korea actually set off [I]real[/I] WMDs in our face and we did jackshit other then a ineffective sanction. Meanwhile You Have to agree the Commence Clause has been more abused by Congress then a Wife in a West Virginia Trailer Park, with it taking the Supreme Court in a 5-4 Discussion back in 1990s to declare that simply processing a Item does not effect Interstate Commence thus can't be regulated by Congress under the Commence Clause. [editline]01:50PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;21467654]Honestly I wish it was.[/QUOTE] Me to, how the fuck did we end up with this 2 Party System to begin with? All it takes is one asshole elected to one party to give that party a monopoly on the power to block anything so they can stroke their political penis while the rest of us get fucked due to it. [editline]01:53PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;21467566]socialism doesn't oppose religion. There are some varieties of socialism that oppose religion, but it is not an inherently anti-religious ideology[/QUOTE] Yeah, the only reason you saw the Soviet Union being Anti-Church was due to the fact the Church of Russia sided with the White Army during the October Revolution, meanwhile they had no problem with the other Religions like Islam in the southern Soviet Republics since they didn't side against the Communist. [editline]01:55PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Calam1tous;21467235]I'll laugh if some passerby in the future just grabs a gun and starts shooting people. Or a kid.[/QUOTE] I bet two dollars they won't figure out how to take the safety off or chamber before they get shot. [editline]01:58PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Conscript;21466892]How a religion could be an ideology that opposes religion is beyond me. The words socialism,marxism, and communism are losing their meaning, thanks to the politically illiterate right wing.[/QUOTE] I know, That dickhead Glenn Beck just throws around the Marxist Label like it's going out of style. Do you believe he thinks Net Neutrality is a "Marxist Scheme" to Control the Internet? [editline]02:02PM[/editline] [QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;21461334]It actually does. If the market was allowed to work as it was supposed to Goldman Sachs, AIG, et al would have been wiped off the face of the earth. But now that the government has resurrected them, they're free to screw up yet again and take even bigger risks knowing that if they lose they'll get another chance. If you were at a casino and you knew that even if you lost, you'd have your loses replenished by somebody else and you get to keep the winnings too, wouldn't you bet everything you had every time? The market is supposed to destroy those who mess up. But both Bush and Obama wouldn't allow that. I could still argue that the market before the crash wasn't even a true free market; it was already regulated to hell.[/QUOTE] What the fuck happen to this bunker buster the U.S. Government used to have called Anti-Trust laws, if they could break up Standard Oil with that, why the fuck can't we do this with these Banks?
[QUOTE=Conscript;21467791]I'd disagree. [/QUOTE] socialism is strictly an economic policy. It has nothing to do with religion
Look if you want to argue this, feel free to PM me. I'd be more then happy to lecture you. Otherwise I'm not going to bother because it's entirely irrelevant to what I was talking about.
Funny how they do this NOW but not when the Patriot Act passed.
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