Tomorrow arrives the new Spanish Criminal Code, sanctions for my jew jokes inbound - Polidicks

Did someone reanimate Franco and put him in charge of Spain again?

here you need permission from the police to organize marches and protests, so they can plan ahead and bring in extra officers if needed. even neo-nazis are allowed to have protests as long as they're not breaking any other law

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48090520]The EU Commission is probably just going to jerk off in a corner like they always do[/QUOTE] The EU already has implemented several of these laws, of course they will sit in a corner and circlejerk about how good it is and how they can implement it EU wide. Around here you also need police permission to demonstrate, but they usually look at things such as counter-protests, whether any event takes priority over yours etc, 99% of the time, they won't deny it. A few good bits in there, but the majority of it seems really stupid.

[QUOTE=eirexe;48099088]You don't realise that the laws have been added now since there have been a lot of protests against the shitty government we have to shut mouths up.[/QUOTE] That doesn't make sub constitutional legislature take precedence. Yes, we'll probably see some local councils trying to put down some protests they don't like based on this legislature. But they will ultimately get into iudicial conflict and if it goes all the way to the ECHR they'll loose. They'll probably even loose within Spain itself. Like I've said - no legislature exists in the void and you rarely get the full image just by reading the text of one single law. [QUOTE=The fox;48100790]The EU already has implemented several of these laws, of course they will sit in a corner and circlejerk about how good it is and how they can implement it EU wide. Around here you also need police permission to demonstrate, but they usually look at things such as counter-protests, whether any event takes priority over yours etc, 99% of the time, they won't deny it. A few good bits in there, but the majority of it seems really stupid.[/QUOTE] Hell they need good reasons to ban such a protest even based purely on the EU charter on fundamental rights to which Spain is a party.

[QUOTE=wraithcat;48102448]That doesn't make sub constitutional legislature take precedence. Yes, we'll probably see some local councils trying to put down some protests they don't like based on this legislature. But they will ultimately get into iudicial conflict and if it goes all the way to the ECHR they'll loose. They'll probably even loose within Spain itself. Like I've said - no legislature exists in the void and you rarely get the full image just by reading the text of one single law. Hell they need good reasons to ban such a protest even based purely on the EU charter on fundamental rights to which Spain is a party.[/QUOTE] Do you realise that we have had laws that have been against the spanish constitution and no one has ever done anything.

[QUOTE=eirexe;48102473]Do you realise that we have had laws that have been against the spanish constitution and no one has ever done anything.[/QUOTE] Considering how often Spain has been under scrutiny by both the ECHR and ECJ, I doubt the law itself is as limiting as might seem. Also keep in mind that it might be merely a limitation. Overall needing a permit to make a public protest is not unusual in western nations. The main question is in how the permit is issued. If said protests are routinely denied without sufficient reason, you're looking into a court case where Spain will loose.

Going on strike would be considered a protest? Or they made those Illegal already?. If they aren't people could use it if that's a loophole in the new laws.

I Dont find any metions of Jew Jokes in the source of OP

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;48100503]Did someone reanimate Franco and put him in charge of Spain again?[/QUOTE] The descendants of the old rule still have strong power here, and they keep insisting their parents/grandparents did nothing bad, that they [I]saved Spain from the communism[/I]. Doesn't help neither that even the UN have expressed their opinion on this, and that the reply from the government since it has been known were either "They didn't read the law" or "Those who are protesting are the ones who did something illegal". I really hope this law, together with other retarded ones goes down on november. [url]http://www.euronews.com/2015/06/25/spanish-government-cracks-down-on-right-to-demonstrate-security-or-repression/[/url] [URL]http://www.euronews.com/2015/06/30/spain-protesting-for-the-right-to-protest/[/URL] ES: [url]http://es.euronews.com/2015/06/30/espana-greenpeace-se-sube-al-congreso-de-los-diputados-contra-la-ley-mordaza/[/url]

[QUOTE=Crimor;48089490]I'm just counting the days until Kalmar Union 2: Nationalist Boogaloo, especially with how nationalist parties in scandinavia have been gaining a fuckton of headway recently for some reason.[/QUOTE] I for one, would be perfectly OK with a nordic Union.

[QUOTE=Lok's;48103265]Going on strike would be considered a protest? Or they made those Illegal already?. If they aren't people could use it if that's a loophole in the new laws.[/QUOTE] Those are illegal already I think. [editline]3rd July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Das Stuck;48103408]I Dont find any metions of Jew Jokes in the source of OP[/QUOTE] Of course it's not litearlly jew jokes, if you check the thread you will find that I linked another source that mentions it.

[QUOTE=Ol' Pie;48094072]I think it refers to dark jokes about the holocaust, and racist jokes, which have been made by a member of a party who had to resign because of it. You can't also criticize Spain's Monarchy or any of it's members in public.[/QUOTE] Poor Spaniards, here in the UK its basically a national past time to slag off our royal family.

[QUOTE=cr2142;48113041]Poor Spaniards, here in the UK its basically a national past time to slag off our royal family.[/QUOTE] And it is here too. I don't think it's gonna stop with these prohibitions, it's only gonna feed the fire. There's a growing desire for either no monarchy or a third republic (which is not likely imo).

[QUOTE=eirexe;48088932]Not illegal per se, but you get fines from 100 to 600 € I'm surprised that's the first thing you saw, considering FUCKING PROTEST MARCHES are illegal.[/QUOTE] They're also useless, most of the times. And spontaneous protests are also used as pawns to further some interest or the other, so unless you have a [URL="http://imgur.com/gallery/5XvG2"]swiss-like[/URL] democracy, you're pretty much at the whims of the political, cultural and financial elite in the country.

[QUOTE=cr2142;48113041]Poor Spaniards, here in the UK its basically a national past time to slag off our royal family.[/QUOTE] And yet it was a crime in Scotland until 2010. (albeit a nonprosecuted one)