10-year-old scores felony charge through 'Minecraft' - Polidicks

[QUOTE=be;43118094]It's horrible that the only way to get it refunded is to file a police report, but even so, wouldn't it be better to NOT file a police report and just bite the $800 bullet instead of ruining your kids law because YOU failed to teach him how to use credit cards/money intelligently and responsibly?[/QUOTE] 800$ isn't a tiny amount of money you know lmao

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43119587]actually child abuse isn't just physical pain, it's a deliberate and conscious action done by [I]the child's fucking parental guardian.[/I] much worse.[/QUOTE] let's talk about my personal here. going to elaborate a little bit more. i was never beaten as a child, but my dad was before his father left. now that i've grown up, i find myself trying to not respond to physical violence with more violence despite my awful temper issues. that's a trait i'm glad i've developed. after getting in arguments with my dad where he's spat in my face and called me retarded and worthless, i've [I]rarely[/I] retaliated with physical attacks, and when i [I]did[/I] end up doing it, it's never justified at all, and i deeply regret it. if people ever shove me or get up in my face, i'd [I]never[/I] respond with violence unless my life was in danger. i think the main reason why i barely get in fights or respond to physical violence with more physical violence is because i wasn't raised in a household like that. dad and mom never slapped me, spanked me, or washed my mouth out with soap, they gave me a stern talking to and [I]USED THEIR WORDS TO PUNISH ME.[/I] this is a really big jump, but i think the reason why some people think physical violence is ever justified is because they were raised in a crappy, violent environment. kids get beaten, grow up thinking that violence is a solution, and do the same to their own kids. kids who get beaten will misbehave more, get beaten more. the depth at which this penetrates people and poisons their personalities is comparable to racism and homophobia imo. as long as we're okay with parents beating kids, these stupid, primitive values will continue to thrive. also pentium, i doubt you'd even consider making a stupid post about hitting a kit with a belt if you weren't hit as a kid. sorry if this was too personal, i am just super deeply against violence against children. shit's awful.

[QUOTE=woolio1;43119405]Absolutely not. What I'm asking, however, is this: Are your parents psychopaths? Your uncles? Grandparents? Why is our generation more susceptible to this physical trigger to mental illness?[/QUOTE] We're not more susceptible, but we are more aware. The effects of what that kind of behavior has on children is now very well researched and documented, and taking steps to educate ourselves about this system of abuse could lead to a reduction in violent and antisocial behavior in future generations. [editline]8th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;43119506]This thread is about a stupid kid wasting loads on minecraft, what the hell are you doing[/QUOTE] I'm responding to somebody who is essentially advocating child abuse by providing examples and arguments against his claim, and rebutting his anecdotal evidence of the many personal boons of beating children by providing a rather stark portrait of his own situation. How about you?

[QUOTE=pentium;43119105]My father was beaten as a student and by his parents yet he's an engineer now. Anyways, to go back on topic, parents will have to pay the bill, kid will have to pay back the parents in one way or another and understand that you shouldn't do this.[/QUOTE] The Leather Belt? Wooden Spoons? I been beaten as a child, and i swear to god i will never beat my children. EVER. Maybe a light spank if they spend 800 dollars, but thats about it. If they do something really bad like fucking jump out of the window, a Spank. But thats as far as i'm going, A spank. for something really bad. If i'm going to be a parent, my form of system is going to be: Take something away from them if they do something (meh) bad If that does not work, i'll try another method. Seriously its pretty easy to make your kids start behaving besides spanking and hitting them black and blue.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;43118111]bank's fault. they want to make sure that someone gets punished.[/QUOTE] Requiring a police report to be filed helps cut down on fraud or people generally abusing the system. Not because they are sadist

Source is from 12 November, move along, nothing to see here.

[QUOTE=woolio1;43118128]All games should have some sort of parental control system for microtransactions.[/QUOTE] You can set parental controls to disallow purchases on Xbox Live. The problem is that most parents don't even know how to turn the things on let alone set a password.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;43119199]-shitpost-[/QUOTE] What the hell is wrong with you? You don't win a debate by using blatant personal attacks against the other person, I don't agree with pentium either but flinging shit around is not the way to win an argument. (it's disgusting how many agrees your post has)

wow wow wow, guys seriously stop posting, not even being sarcastic right now, y'all are tanking this thread so hard BDA, wtf dude? can't we just talk about this kid not deserving a felony charge? too much digression in here for real

Yeah the xbox 360 version of minecraft is full of shitty microtransactions and skin packs [url]http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-ca/Product/Minecraft-Xbox-360-Edition/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802584111f7?pagesize=90&sortby=ReleaseDate[/url] No joke there's fucking trial packs for playermodel skins [editline]49[/editline] Sounds similar to that one girl spending a lot of dosh for micro-transactions in a My Little Pony iPhad game

The sheer amount of people who don't know that XBox Minecraft is full of microtransactions is astonishing. Literally everything outside of base content for the XBox version is payed DLC [editline]8th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Drsalvador;43119581]God, this reflects on your childhood so much.[/QUOTE] It works though. It happened to me, and I'm turning out fine afaik.

[QUOTE=gk99;43120348]It works though. It happened to me, and I'm turning out fine afaik.[/QUOTE] It's not a one-in-one-out system, man. Not every kid who gets beaten is going to grow up into a maladjusted individual. Hell, not even [I]most[/I] will. It's the fact that many do, and that the issues they have later in life can be traced back to a single underlying factor: childhood abuse. Kids are sponges, they soak up the world around 'em, and the single biggest influence on what they're absorbing is the parents. Parents are the first and most important agents of socialization. Abusive parents teach kids some horrifying things. Even in cases of "light" abuse, using physical pain to dissuade undesirable behavior (frequent spankings, slapping, beatings with belts or paddles, etc), those kids are going to be internalizing violence. Those are the ripples that can, and frequently do, lead to serious issues down the road. "Spare the rod, spoil the child," doesn't need to refer to a literal rod. Nobody's telling anybody that they can't or shouldn't discipline their children (after all, as I've already said, parents are the single largest agents of socialization in most childrens' lives, so it's important that the parents play an active role in shaping their children into well behaved folks), but it is very important to be mindful of how they are disciplining their children. The choice and application of discipline doesn't only teach your child your social expectations of their behavior, but how those expectations are best enforced, and (in a more abstract sense) your values on humanity as a whole. The number of studies and evidence in support of this is fairly overwhelming, and only becoming more so. [editline]9th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;43120293]What the hell is wrong with you? You don't win a debate by using blatant personal attacks against the other person, I don't agree with pentium either but flinging shit around is not the way to win an argument. (it's disgusting how many agrees your post has)[/QUOTE] You're right, that was an unnecessary low blow. I'm sorry to pentium for stooping like that, this is just a subject that I get a bit heated about! It won't happen again. I promise to keep things more civil from here on out.

I had no idea minecraft had microtransactions. it sure has changed since last time I played.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43120338]Yeah the xbox 360 version of minecraft is full of shitty microtransactions and skin packs [url]http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-ca/Product/Minecraft-Xbox-360-Edition/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802584111f7?pagesize=90&sortby=ReleaseDate[/url] No joke there's fucking trial packs for playermodel skins ...[/QUOTE] The skin packs are more than just textures, there's custom models in there as well, and the trials are free so I'm not sure what the problem is there? In total there's only $25 worth of DLC, it's not as bad as you're making it out to be.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;43120524]It's not a one-in-one-out system, man. Not every kid who gets beaten is going to grow up into a maladjusted individual. Hell, not even [I]most[/I] will. It's the fact that many do, and that the issues they have later in life can be traced back to a single underlying factor: childhood abuse. Kids are sponges, they soak up the world around 'em, and the single biggest influence on what they're absorbing is the parents. Parents are the first and most important agents of socialization. Abusive parents teach kids some horrifying things. Even in cases of "light" abuse, using physical pain to dissuade undesirable behavior (frequent spankings, slapping, beatings with belts or paddles, etc), those kids are going to be internalizing violence. Those are the ripples that can, and frequently do, lead to serious issues down the road. "Spare the rod, spoil the child," doesn't need to refer to a literal rod. Nobody's telling anybody that they can't or shouldn't discipline their children (after all, as I've already said, parents are the single largest agents of socialization in most childrens' lives, so it's important that the parents play an active role in shaping their children into well behaved folks), but it is very important to be mindful of how they are disciplining their children. The choice and application of discipline doesn't only teach your child your social expectations of their behavior, but how those expectations are best enforced, and (in a more abstract sense) your values on humanity as a whole. The number of studies and evidence in support of this is fairly overwhelming, and only becoming more so. [editline]9th December 2013[/editline] You're right, that was an unnecessary low blow. I'm sorry to pentium for stooping like that, this is just a subject that I get a bit heated about! It won't happen again. I promise to keep things more civil from here on out.[/QUOTE] I never meant frequently, only when you really step so far out of line that you start to float away due to lack of gravitational pull

I can't say that the kid did this unknowingly.

[QUOTE=pentium;43118865]Because I was broken before they beat me. Using me to conclude that beatings = insane as an adult would be so incredibly biased.[/QUOTE] Just because you were a broken child doesn't give you any right to be an awful adult.

wait so let me get this straight. PC gets a shitload of mods, skin packs, player skins, tweaks, graphic fixes, and actual patches, and the 360 version has 40+ dollar skin packs on an oldass version of MC + microtransactions for things modpacks can do if you like cheating. wow. [editline]8th December 2013[/editline] jesus christ at what point in the last ONE page did we start talking about child abuse

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43120338]Yeah the xbox 360 version of minecraft is full of shitty microtransactions and skin packs [url]http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-ca/Product/Minecraft-Xbox-360-Edition/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802584111f7?pagesize=90&sortby=ReleaseDate[/url] That only amounts to not even $25, and that's assuming this stuff is permanent, and not just pay-as-you-use-a-skin. No joke there's fucking trial packs for playermodel skins [editline]49[/editline] Sounds similar to that one girl spending a lot of dosh for micro-transactions in a My Little Pony iPhad game[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=yawmwen;43118111]bank's fault. they want to make sure that someone gets punished.[/QUOTE] You don't have any idea what you're talking about. Most stuff on XBL is non-refundable, and if theres a suspicious charge it typically has to be caught within a certain time span and solved within a certain time span if you want to get your money back. Microsoft doesn't look for these charges, so the only way to catch a suspicious charge is to check your XBL purchase history and your bank statement. If anything it's microsofts fault because of their terrible refund policies. The bank probably refused to do a chargeback because it wasn't caught quickly enough and it technically was a legitimate purchase.

It's probably these "server donations".

[QUOTE=Bo98;43121177]It's probably these "server donations".[/QUOTE] 10$ for admin powers 50$ for gold horse armor 100$ for diamond horse armor

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;43118963]Maybe we can't blame your particular issues completely on early child abuse, but the fact that early child abuse is such a common trait in criminally violent and socially maladjusted adults seems a bit hard to ignore. In fact, your initial reaction to a young child making a dumb mistake being a suggestion to beat him with a leather belt seems a [i]disturbing testament[/i] to that.[/QUOTE] So beating your children is child abuse now? I disagree, but there's definitely a line where it does become child abuse.

[QUOTE=Irkalla;43121379]So beating your children is child abuse now? I disagree, but there's definitely a line where it does become child abuse.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx[/url] spanking is actually pretty bad so how the hell can beating your child be any better? This isn't the late 1900's, get with the times. The babyboomer generation is a failed generation that doesn't understand not to beat their kids, please be above that generation and don't beat your kids.

[QUOTE=.FLAP.JACK.DAN.;43118154]That's why games and other services shouldn't save credit card details.[/QUOTE] Or they should, and they should have a parental control setting or something that has you input your password for every purchase like any decent store ever?

[QUOTE=woolio1;43118063]Hold on... How did he spend $800 on Minecraft, when all the skin packs and in-game purchases aren't worth more than $40-50 or so? I didn't even think you could buy tools, isn't it just those skin packs and texture packs?[/QUOTE] On some servers there are "Stores" where you can buy items or premium. [QUOTE=Irkalla;43121379]So beating your children is child abuse now?[/QUOTE] I beg your pardon?

Little shit needs a stern talking to. At 10 years old you are aware of what you are doing.

[QUOTE=Irkalla;43121379]So beating your children is child abuse now?[/quote] You might want to read this post again before deciding if it's something you really want to ask! :v:

[QUOTE=Irkalla;43121379]So beating your children is child abuse now? I disagree, but there's definitely a line where it does become child abuse.[/QUOTE] Uh yeah. That's like the definition of child abuse dude

[QUOTE=Mbbird;43121017]wait so let me get this straight. PC gets a shitload of mods, skin packs, player skins, tweaks, graphic fixes, and actual patches, and the 360 version has 40+ dollar skin packs on an oldass version of MC + microtransactions for things modpacks can do if you like cheating. wow. [editline]8th December 2013[/editline] jesus christ at what point in the last ONE page did we start talking about child abuse[/QUOTE] I have friends that keep trying to convince me to get the 360 version, simply because the multiplayer is "easier". Screw that. The PC version is demonstrably better in almost every way for the exact reasons you listed.