[QUOTE=Satane;41452594]wow you can literally get banned for having a different opinion. this is a forum lol[/QUOTE]
It's private property and we're guests here, Garry and the mods can ban you for anything.
Well shit. If those Russian bastards ever take over Finland again, any ideas where I should immigrate? Canada?
Look at how edgy people are, dumbing people who hate anti-gay laws
[QUOTE=IceyMalone;41455656]Look at how edgy people are, dumbing people who hate anti-gay laws[/QUOTE]
i hate that "edgy" meme catchphrase that's been going around fp. it isn't "edge", it's just trolling mostly. and each time you acknowledge their existence i think their dick tingles a little bit.
[I]Rossiya Vpered![/I]
[QUOTE=gufu;41452521]Well, that's Ukraine. Equally homophobic state, but a different country, you know.[/QUOTE]
I'd most likely have a connector flight in Moscow on the way out there. I doubt there's a jet running from Nashville Intl to Kiev Intl.
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41454069]that is exactly why you can get banned for having a different opinion. Facepunch/forums in general do not have to abide by any free speech/human rights laws because they're a private entity
blatant discrimination generally isn't tolerated. Deal with it or go elsewhere, basically.[/QUOTE]
It depends on who is discriminated, if you are a straight male, it is totally ok for others to say "I think men shouldn't have any rights" but if you switch the word male with any other sensitive word like female or gay people then suddenly you are cyberhitler and you get banned to infinity.
At least in Ukraine politicians are too busy with adding additional taxes like "it's restricted to use flashers on ambulance cars without paying TAXES"
i am not joking
[QUOTE=Charchar;41450204]I'm fully supportive of this, good job Putin!
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling and/or homophobic. Either way." - GunFox))[/highlight][/QUOTE]
Suppressing freedom of speech on an article about Russia. Oh, the sweet irony.
Well, in that case we can do without you Russia. Enjoy massive trade embargoes and a sharp drop in tourism.
inb4 westboro moves to russia and praises the motherland
[QUOTE=slayer64;41460006]Suppressing freedom of speech on an article about Russia. Oh, the sweet irony.[/QUOTE]
fyi FP is a privately owned forum so freedom of speech p much isn't a thing
[QUOTE=SuddenImpact;41456136]It depends on who is discriminated, if you are a straight male, it is totally ok for others to say "I think men shouldn't have any rights" but if you switch the word male with any other sensitive word like female or gay people then suddenly you are cyberhitler and you get banned to infinity.[/QUOTE]
Discriminating against anyone, or taking away the rights of anyone is never right no matter how strong their position in society is.
And many a strong group in the past has fallen victim to vicious regimes in the past.
Russia's just doing this because they wanna oppose the west. Also, how much of an influence do the christian church have over politics there?
i mean its not like homosexuality is legal everywhere in the world, im pretty sure like in 75% of the world, sodomy is still illegal. just gotta be gay at your own risk once your outside your country's protection. same with equal rights... i mean look if you went to south africa in the 80s and didn't follow the laws there you could get arrested
[editline]15th July 2013[/editline]
still wtf russia you are not a 3rd world country, wth you guys were at one time the most progessive country in the world, with women in the armed forces, women in space, uniting multiple cultures under the banner of the USSR.
[QUOTE=Sableye;41463096]uniting multiple cultures under the banner of the USSR.[/QUOTE]
Read: exterminating and forcibly assimilating
[QUOTE=slayer64;41460006]Suppressing freedom of speech on an article about Russia. Oh, the sweet irony.[/QUOTE]
If your "opinion" includes taking away other people's human rights, then you pretty much lose all rights to free speech.
[QUOTE=SuddenImpact;41456136]It depends on who is discriminated, if you are a straight male, it is totally ok for others to say "I think men shouldn't have any rights"[/QUOTE]
uhhhhhh
You guys are real funny. When everyone is circlejerking over faggots - it's really good. But when one man dares to have an opinion on the matter - it's suddenly death penalty and the guy gets banned. Good job, so much for having an opinion.
[QUOTE=Sgt.Romano_O;41467827]You guys are real funny. When everyone is circlejerking over faggots - it's really good. But when one man dares to have an opinion on the matter - it's suddenly death penalty and the guy gets banned. Good job, so much for having an opinion.[/QUOTE]
Facepunch does not have a constitution, declaration or amendment giving you the right to free speech on its pages
[QUOTE=Cone;41468706]Facepunch does not have a constitution, declaration or amendment giving you the right to free speech on its pages[/QUOTE]
So you mean I just should follow what everyone else says? That's really stupid. No country would progress, nothing would progress.
Or do you just suppress people's opinions, like a faschist goverment would? You know, faschists didn't like gays too. Go figure.
[QUOTE=Sgt.Romano_O;41468745]So you mean I just should follow what everyone else says? That's really stupid. No country would progress, nothing would progress.
Or do you just suppress people's opinions, like a faschist goverment would? You know, faschists didn't like gays too. Go figure.[/QUOTE]
Racism and homophobia are bannable offenses, because those things harm other people.
It's simple as that, it's not suppressing people's bright precious opinions, it's suppressing hate speech that can actually hurt human beings.
[QUOTE=Cl0cK;41468894]Racism and homophobia are bannable offenses, because those things harm other people.
It's simple as that, it's not suppressing people's bright precious opinions, it's suppressing hate speech that can actually hurt human beings.[/QUOTE]
People hear harming things almost anywhere, any day. You should deal with them, argue with them, not just submit to them and go "waah it hurt muh feelings i should throw myself off a buliding". If you get offended by the so called "hate speech", it's your choice to get offended by it.
[QUOTE=Sgt.Romano_O;41468745]So you mean I just should follow what everyone else says? That's really stupid. No country would progress, nothing would progress.
Or do you just suppress people's opinions, like a faschist goverment would? You know, faschists didn't like gays too. Go figure.[/QUOTE]
no, i mean there is literally not the slightest obligation for any mods to listen to homophobia or racism or anything like that because FP is a private venture with private rules. free speech is not a thing here because you have never been guaranteed it
[QUOTE=Cone;41469011]no, i mean there is literally not the slightest obligation for any mods to listen to homophobia or racism or anything like that because FP is a private venture with private rules. free speech is not a thing here because you have never been guaranteed it[/QUOTE]
Does it mean that if someone becomes a mod who is homophobic or doesn't like gays in general, he will be able to ban people who like gays and it will be perfectly fine? Alright.
[QUOTE=Sgt.Romano_O;41468956]People hear harming things almost anywhere, any day. You should deal with them, argue with them, not just submit to them and go "waah it hurt muh feelings i should throw myself off a buliding". If you get offended by the so called "hate speech", it's your choice to get offended by it.[/QUOTE]
Facepunch is a private owned forum, if you don't follow its rules you get banned.
Don't act all offended, when there's actual human beings being fucking arrested in your country just for being gay.
[QUOTE=Cl0cK;41469056]Facepunch is a private owned forum, if you don't follow its rules you get banned.
Don't act all offended, when there's actual human beings being fucking arrested in your country just for being gay.[/QUOTE]
They ain't being arrested for being gay, they are being arrested for openly showing that they are gay, and usually if it's done around kids. Don't go to gay parades and you will be completely fine. I know gay people and they aren't in jail.
[QUOTE=Sgt.Romano_O;41469044]Does it mean that if someone becomes a mod who is homophobic or doesn't like gays in general, he will be able to ban people who like gays and it will be perfectly fine? Alright.[/QUOTE]
well that would be up to Garry, since he owns the business, the forum, and all its intellectual property. i don't think it would be ethical of course, but it's private property, so what your or i think is ethical has absolutely no bearing on what actually happens. this is what property means.
[QUOTE=Cone;41469121]well that would be up to Garry, since he owns the business, the forum, and all its intellectual property. i don't think it would be ethical of course, but it's private property, so what your or i think is ethical has absolutely no bearing on what actually happens. this is what property means.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I understand. But, the guy was banned merely for showing his support to the goverment's decisions. He wasn't being homophobic, he merely supported a law where if you openly do gay things, which nobody likes watching, or you to go gay parades, which are mega-annoying, you get in jail.
[QUOTE=Sgt.Romano_O;41469154]Yes, I understand. But, the guy was banned merely for showing his support to the goverment's decisions. He wasn't being homophobic, he merely supported a law where if you openly do gay things, which nobody likes watching, or you to go gay parades, which are mega-annoying, you get in jail.[/QUOTE]
well annoying as those parades may or may not be, they're still an extension of people rights to free speech, freedom from discrimination, freedom of assembly, and equality before the law. these are literally human rights abuses.
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