• US Soldiers beat sheep to death with a baseball bat in leaked video
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[QUOTE=SatansSin;34228788]I can only guess, and this is a wild guess, very, very wild guess. Is that that sheep was used a herder somehow, or courier, possibly for weapons or substances to make IED's.. So they took it out with a baseball bat? Even still, very stupid. Probably not even close to being right. [/QUOTE]Does that really happen? Sounds ridiculous. Even then it's not a reason to actually bash the sheep.
Of all the things to be bothered by in this war it never ceases to amaze me that videos like this shock people. This is a war where grown men plant bombs inside of children, and send them to die. It's a war where the difference between killing a dozen civilians and saving your best friends life sometimes comes down to split second decisions. And it's a war where the people in charge send these young men to fight and die and they don't even have a reason why they do it. But yeah, that poor sheep. Real tragedy.
[QUOTE=Regulas021;34229562]Of all the things to be bothered by in this war it never ceases to amaze me that videos like this shock people. This is a war where grown men plant bombs inside of children, and send them to die. It's a war where the difference between killing a dozen civilians and saving your best friends life sometimes comes down to split second decisions. And it's a war where the people in charge send these young men to fight and die and they don't even have a reason why they do it. But yeah, that poor sheep. Real tragedy.[/QUOTE] Something larger and worse happenning on a daily basis doesn't make the littler things any bloody better, or else you'd be perfectly fine with mass murder.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34221321]Slavery gets shit done, deal with it. Just because something happens often does not mean it's ok and we should just deal with it.[/QUOTE] how the fuck did you just compare the enslavement of an entire race of people to a sheep being beaten to death with a bat. there are alot worse things that happen in war. Families are killed, men are scarred both physically and mentally, civilizations are destroyed, people are tortured beyond recognition, and women get raped in the middle of the street. So yeah, I think this is one of those things you just deal with. You probably have gotten more mad at this fucking sheep getting killed than the thousands of men and women who have died in a horrific fashion over this bullshit in the middle east. Why don't you just shut the fuck up.
[QUOTE=italics560;34230445]how the fuck did you just compare the enslavement of an entire race of people to a sheep being beaten to death with a bat.[/QUOTE] he's not comparing the two. he's contrasting two variations of the argument to show how stupid it is
[QUOTE=notxmania;34188343]do you guys honestly expect people who volunteer for the opportunity to kill people in an unjust war to be paragons of virtue[/QUOTE] No, but soldiers are expected to uphold a degree of honor and decorum. Not to do shit like this. We're fighting wars for whatever reason, no matter what the agenda, not to be barbarous bastards. US soldiers are to be examples, good and decent men and women who approach war with a degree of humility and reason. Not frat boys with guns and some knowledge of strategy.
[QUOTE=Sanius;34230512]he's not comparing the two. he's contrasting two variations of the argument to show how stupid it is[/QUOTE] obviously, but the context they were put in were so far off that it doesn't even make it an argument. Slavery was a big deal, this is not.
[QUOTE=italics560;34230445] Why don't you just shut the fuck up.[/QUOTE] why don't you calm down? there's a valid reason to be upset about this. soldiers are held to a high moral and professional standard. they are given orders to neutralize enemy forces. they are not given orders to beat sheep with baseball bats.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;34230565]No, but soldiers are expected to uphold a degree of honor and decorum. Not to do shit like this. We're fighting wars for whatever reason, no matter what the agenda, not to be barbarous bastards. US soldiers are to be examples, good and decent men and women who approach war with a degree of humility and reason. Not frat boys with guns and some knowledge of strategy.[/QUOTE] dude, these guys are in a warzone. Bad shit happens, you can't just expect these guys to maintain perfect discipline when their friends have been shot, tortured, and blown the fuck up. They are mentally scarred and they took out their frustrations on a sheep. We are the most humane when it comes to war. There are factions in Africa committing genocide right now because their father's father's father fought over a piece of land. We don't hang their dead from bridges to send a message, we don't set people on fire because they worship a different god, and we sure as fuck don't fly planes into buildings and kill thousands of non-combatants.
[QUOTE=italics560;34230699]dude, these guys are in a warzone. Bad shit happens, you can't just expect these guys to maintain perfect discipline when their friends have been shot, tortured, and blown the fuck up.[/QUOTE] yes you can. it's in their fucking job description. if they can't handle it they need to be sent home
[QUOTE=Sanius;34230624]why don't you calm down? there's a valid reason to be upset about this. soldiers are held to a high moral and professional standard. they are given orders to neutralize enemy forces. they are not given orders to beat sheep with baseball bats.[/QUOTE] this was an isolated incident that will be forgotten about. There are prisoners that get mutilated and sexually humiliated, and there are civilians that get blown up and shot in the crossfire and it goes completely unnoticed. This was a sheep getting beaten with a bat. Compared to all the other, serious, shit that happens, this isn't something to get even remotely upset about.
[QUOTE=Sanius;34230715]yes you can. it's in their fucking job description. if they can't handle it they need to be sent home[/QUOTE] They're just normal people, man. If someone were sent to war actually prepared for that, I'd imagine they'd be the kinds of people we see here. As in, fucking psychos. You need to stop holding them to such a high standard. I don't know a single person who could cope with things like their friends getting blown the fuck up, and at the end of the day that's all they are; people in extreme situations who, while given training for these situations, will inevitably collapse at some point. All the training is meant to do is ensure that they break at a manageable point in time.
[QUOTE=Sanius;34230715]yes you can. it's in their fucking job description. if they can't handle it they need to be sent home[/QUOTE] it was an isolated incident, its not like it happens every day. Why don't you go tell a group of soldiers that have lost friends and pieces of themselves that this is worthy of being discharged. This is worthy of a minor NJP, probably 2 days of latrine duty or digging foxholes.
[QUOTE=italics560;34230699]dude, these guys are in a warzone. Bad shit happens, you can't just expect these guys to maintain perfect discipline when their friends have been shot, tortured, and blown the fuck up. They are mentally scarred and they took out their frustrations on a sheep. We are the most humane when it comes to war. There are factions in Africa committing genocide right now because their father's father's father fought over a piece of land. We don't hang their dead from bridges to send a message, we don't set people on fire because they worship a different god, and we sure as fuck don't fly planes into buildings and kill thousands of non-combatants.[/QUOTE] Not the same thing. Psychological trauma is different than just being a dick. Unless there's proof that these guys were war weary, PTS stricken soldiers, then it seems like they were just dudes beating a sheep to death for no apparent reason. [editline]15th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=italics560;34230841]it was an isolated incident, its not like it happens every day. Why don't you go tell a group of soldiers that have lost friends and pieces of themselves that this is worthy of being discharged. This is worthy of a minor NJP, probably 2 days of latrine duty or digging foxholes.[/QUOTE] No, what they need is psychological counseling, in that instant. If they just did it for fun or some other deranged reason, they need to be discharged. We're not in these countries to fuck people over and to make a mess, as weird as that sounds when describing a war.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;34231070]Not the same thing. Psychological trauma is different than just being a dick. Unless there's proof that these guys were war weary, PTS stricken soldiers, then it seems like they were just dudes beating a sheep to death for no apparent reason. [editline]15th January 2012[/editline] No, what they need is psychological counseling, in that instant. If they just did it for fun or some other deranged reason, they need to be discharged. We're not in these countries to fuck people over and to make a mess, as weird as that sounds when describing a war.[/QUOTE] oh, but these guys can violently kill other human beings and psychologically be perfectly okay? Because killing animals is much much worse than killing humans, right? [editline]15th January 2012[/editline] like I said, these guys don't need to be discharged. All they are probably going to get is a minor NJP, and that's what they deserve.
[QUOTE=italics560;34231317]oh, but these guys can violently kill other human beings and psychologically be perfectly okay? Because killing animals is much much worse than killing humans, right? [editline]15th January 2012[/editline] like I said, these guys don't need to be discharged. All they are probably going to get is a minor NJP, and that's what they deserve.[/QUOTE] Killing over human beings under orders during war is a different thing entirely. Not condonable in the least, but generally speaking, soldiers don't actively seek to kill people unless in a firefight or an actual battle. There was no reason to kill that sheep. And it's not just killing it, it's [B]how[/B] they killed it.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34229001]Does that really happen? Sounds ridiculous. Even then it's not a reason to actually bash the sheep.[/QUOTE] I can see it happening, but I've not heard many people speak of it.
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;34227329]You're a dumbfuck and tens of thousands of people who are in this war did not volunteer for it.[/QUOTE] lol this isn't vietnam pal
did they pee on the sheep as well
When are the jerks who do this stuff going to realize that filming it and uploading it is a terrible, terrible idea? They make the entire army look like sociopaths.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;34232910]When are the jerks who do this stuff going to realize that filming it and uploading it is a terrible, terrible idea? They make the entire army look like sociopaths.[/QUOTE] they probably showed it around to their friends and it leaked out from there. I doubt that they posted it to youtube/liveleak right away
[QUOTE=Kirbyfactor;34227308]So. isn't this the 3 time US soldiers are in the new for stupid reasons 1.That dog they blowed up with firework "for fun" 2.Peeing over those dead soldiers 3.Beating this sheep "for fun" These soldiers make me sick[/QUOTE] 1.That dog they blowed up with firework "for fun" That was drunken teenagers.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34228088]I talk from what I see. And I see them beating a sheep with a baseball bat. I don't care how terrible or extreme your service is, this is unacceptable. Do you think if I went to war I'd suddenly go "oh nvm, it's ok to kill animals for fun". If I did say that, I should be put in a mental hospital. [editline]15th January 2012[/editline] How long is your contract?[/QUOTE] Got 2 years left.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;34232996]1.That dog they blowed up with firework "for fun" That was drunken teenagers.[/QUOTE] prolly meant the soldiers who threw puppies off a cliff
[QUOTE=EurofanBMW;34226750]Its extremely entertaining watching all you pascifist pussies try to judge servicemembers who have been deployed for a year and are likely going through severe mental stress when you've never even served and probably never will. Is it fucked up? Yes. But cmon guys its a fucking sheep. Go enlist and deploy for a year before you talk shit. This thread alone is an astounding jackpot of proof that most liberals are completely out of touch with fucking reality. Just a random infantrymans .02 cents.[/QUOTE] Thank you. [editline]15th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Cone;34229725]Something larger and worse happenning on a daily basis doesn't make the littler things any bloody better, or else you'd be perfectly fine with mass murder.[/QUOTE] Since when was mass murder little?
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