Italy court rules baker can pay child support in pizza
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[QUOTE=gokiyono;50413184]Not just pizza[/QUOTE]
Oh my god.
Brb taking my dad.. Oh wait, I'm not 10 anymore and I don't need child support :(
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;50413032]Hey, according to the US government, pizza is now a vegetable. Kid's eating healthy. He should be grateful. On a more serious note, you can have a lot of variety when it comes to pizza, and it can meet a surprising number of dietary requirements. Really depends on the pizza in question.
I guess what I'm saying is, it's not ideal by any stretch, but it could certainly be a hell of a lot worse.[/QUOTE]
Context is key. Pizza is only considered a vegetable when served as a school lunch because federal guidelines require a vegetable with every meal.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;50413184]I don't think he's still having children at the age of 50.
If the article is to be believed, he would have to be less than ~40 years old when all his children were conceived
[editline]29th May 2016[/editline]
Not just pizza[/QUOTE]
Still -- you can't just expect the child to be okay with eating roughly the same thing (calzones are just rolled up pizzas) for [b]every meal every day.[/b]
This is actually a good ruling, Child support has never really been something that has been implemented correctly but in this case your fulfilling that basic need that we all need to live.
Child support no longer becomes a job for the mother or father.
[QUOTE=geel9;50416956]Still -- you can't just expect the child to be okay with eating roughly the same thing (calzones are just rolled up pizzas) for [b]every meal every day.[/b][/QUOTE]
I think [I]not pizzas[/I] would fit in under [I]other goods[/I]. And even then it's not like it's impossible to choose different types of pizzas. If it's anything like the Pizza place in my town, they also make the following: Spaghetti, Lasagne, Salad, French Fries, Spring rolls, Sandwiches, and more.
It's probably not going to be a big problem at all
[QUOTE=geel9;50416956]Still -- you can't just expect the child to be okay with eating roughly the same thing (calzones are just rolled up pizzas) for [b]every meal every day.[/b][/QUOTE]
As an Italian-American, pizza's a pretty versatile dish. About the only real requirement is "big bread surface you put stuff on". Some don't have tomato sauce (Fontina and spinach is delicious), some don't have cheese (or very little, like pizza Margherita), all you really need is the crust and you can go wild. It's pretty much as if you were feed your kid open-faced sandwiches for every meal; it's almost exactly the same stuff - hell, speaking of sandwiches, there have been days where my meals consisted of a breakfast sandwich, a hoagie, and some sort of hot sandwich for dinner. May not be "celery and peanut butter"-healthy, but you can pack in some pretty damn good nutrition and with even the right crust - like multi-grain - you can [i]make[/i] a "healthy pizza."
Don't underestimate the variety you can get out of a pizza.
[QUOTE=geel9;50416956]Still -- you can't just expect the child to be okay with eating roughly the same thing (calzones are just rolled up pizzas) for [b]every meal every day.[/b][/QUOTE]
Is that a challenge?
[QUOTE=geel9;50416956]Still -- you can't just expect the child to be okay with eating roughly the same thing (calzones are just rolled up pizzas) for [b]every meal every day.[/b][/QUOTE]
That's when it is the mother's job to step in and help by adding variety into the mix. He has met his obligations and requirements by providing a perpetually-available food.
It is the mother's choice whether she wants to spend her funds and add variety to her child's diet. No one is forcing the child to eat pizza all day, its just a alternative that will always be available under the assumption that his mother is equally-vested in maintaining his diet.
[QUOTE=Batandy;50407167]Our country is a clusterfuck, but if there's one thing we still get right, it's pizza.[/QUOTE]You do guns pretty well, I like your guns. Your cars too, Italian cars are neat.
I'm sure there's other things too, but just because I can't think of them [I]right now[/I] doesn't mean they don't exist. Don't feel bad little buddy. :(
[QUOTE=Sableye;50409154]I'm more concerned about this guy's inability to use birth control, he's 50 and still having children[/QUOTE]I mean he is Italian, I think that's a stereotype that has been earned over the years.
[editline]31st May 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;50417682]As an Italian-American, pizza's a pretty versatile dish.[/QUOTE]As a German-American Minnesotan I have to concur, I love to make tater-tot hotdish pizza. Yes it's basically Chicago-style pizza but with tater tots and stuff. That's all a Chicago-style pizza is anyway, it's just a hotdish but they want to be different down there so we let them.
fucking fight me chicago
Il Italiano Primo if you know what I'm sayin
*cough cough*
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50420922]That's when it is the mother's job to step in and help by adding variety into the mix. He has met his obligations and requirements by providing a perpetually-available food.[/QUOTE]
Child support isn't just about providing food. Pizza doesn't pay for clothing, school supplies, diapers, car seats, cribs, higher education, or any of the other multitude of incidental costs associated with having a child. It shouldn't be up to the mother to not only have to pay for the child to have a balanced diet, but literally every other expense that isn't food.
The only reason the baker is getting away with this is because, as the article says:
[quote]In his defence, attorney Sonia Della Greca argued the pizza baker had truly fallen on hard times and had amassed big debts, to the point that he was forced to close his business in 2010 after being unable to pay vendors and employees.
Ms Della Greca also pointed out that he had held up all his other custody obligations, not missing visits and helping his daughter develop positive relations with his new partner and her three new half-siblings, facts also established in the daughter's deposition in her father's defence.[/quote]
Providing pizza isn't the same as providing its monetary equivalent, but the court recognized that it's better than nothing while he's struggling to pay debt and meeting all his other child-care expectations. In pretty much any other context this would be recognized as not equivalent to child support payment and insufficient to meet that obligation.
If they want more they should give him full custody, simple as that.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;50429116]If they want more they should give him full custody, simple as that.[/QUOTE]
...what?
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