Alcohol fuelled Muslim girl gang attack white woman and are freed because they dont drink. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=sam.clarke;33598540]Urgh, Somalians.[/QUOTE] this is terrible the agrees are even worse

i wish TH89 was back so he could close retarded threads and ban retarded people who make retarded posts.

[QUOTE=thisispain;33602669]o read the actual telegraph article and you'll note that they got proper sentences for their stupid crimes. if they do it again they'll get proper jail time, so shut up about this idiotic racism business.[/QUOTE] BUT THEY WENT FREE JUDGES ARE SHIT POLITICALLY CORRECT [B]REVERSE[/B] RACISTS! it's like judges don't have to heavily justify everything they do, and don't go to uni for half a decade

[QUOTE=Contag;33602810]BUT THEY WENT FREE JUDGES ARE SHIT POLITICALLY CORRECT [B]REVERSE[/B] RACISTS! it's like judges don't have to heavily justify everything they do, and don't go to uni for half a decade[/QUOTE] fucking ridiculous. question to idiots: [B]why would this judge even supposedly be politically correct?[/B] there are plenty of judges who put away minorities with exaggerated sentences and nothing happens to them.

I think them saying they were a victim because her partner joined in has annoyed me the most about this, like common he didn't even use excessive force against them and only fought back when they started again pretty much.

[QUOTE=Contag;33602810]BUT THEY WENT FREE JUDGES ARE SHIT POLITICALLY CORRECT [B]REVERSE[/B] RACISTS! it's like judges don't have to heavily justify everything they do, and don't go to uni for half a decade[/QUOTE] Are you joking? I honestly can't tell.

[QUOTE=erazor;33602975]Are you joking? I honestly can't tell.[/QUOTE] he doesn't need to joke, this thread is a joke filled with crap posts

This is bullshit, can we use the excuse of "I wasn't used to pcp" now? Fucking retarded judge.

[QUOTE=thisispain;33602996]he doesn't need to joke, this thread is a joke filled with crap posts[/QUOTE] If it was heard summarily the maximum order term is 6 months [quote]a person guilty of assault occasioning actual bodily harm is liable... on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months,[/quote] The following are the real reasons why it was six months, from the UK sentencing manual - It wasn't premeditated - The damage was relatively minor for the charge - The victim wasn't vulnerable or in an isolated place - She was partially defending by her boyfriend - No weapon was used and so on here is another case that received 6 months sentence (albeit not suspended, as there are quite a few distinguishing features) [quote]Assault outside nightclub. Altercation including slapping. [B]Victim dragged across the road, floored, kicked and punched by five offenders.[/B] Blows to the head and to body.Injuries included a broken nose, grazing and bruising. Guilty pleas. Defendants received sentences of six months. [/quote] [editline]7th December 2011[/editline] so in other words typical daily fucking mail inflaming racial tensions it should be a bannable offense to use such a shit source

[QUOTE=thisispain;33602669]orkel you rate him agree for blatant racism wow what a joke [editline]6th December 2011[/editline] everyone needs to shut up with this political correctness garbage. you're all incredibly stupid for believing what the daily mail says. read the actual telegraph article and you'll note that they got proper sentences for their stupid crimes. if they do it again they'll get proper jail time, so shut up about this idiotic racism business.[/QUOTE] So they got charged with a hate crime and assault? Anything less isn't justifiable.

[QUOTE=Hobo4President;33603783]So they got charged with a hate crime and assault? Anything less isn't justifiable.[/QUOTE] read contags post. and regarding hate crimes: [quote]A person guilty of either of these offences is liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for a term not exceeding seven years, or to a fine, or to both, or on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both (s.29(2)).[/quote] in a hate crime the summary conviction is also not exceeding six months.

[QUOTE=thisispain;33603839]read contags post.[/QUOTE] I understand why the assault charges were a bit leniant (although I don't agree with them), but how does this explain the reason for them being let off of being charged with a racially motivated crime?

[QUOTE=Hobo4President;33603879]I understand why the assault charges were a bit leniant (although I don't agree with them), but how does this explain the reason for them being let off being charged with a racially motivated crime?[/QUOTE] uhm there was no leniency they got the maximum for summary conviction. and the reason why they aren't being charged with racially motivated crime is because it wasn't a racially motivated crime, it was a group of dumb girls who were drunk and lashed out violently.

[QUOTE=thisispain;33602669]orkel you rate him agree for blatant racism wow what a joke [/QUOTE] I don't think its racist to dislike Somalians, blacks yes but not Somalians. It would be prejudiced though.

[QUOTE=thisispain;33603929]uhm there was no leniency they got the maximum for summary conviction. and the reason why they aren't being charged with racially motivated crime is because it wasn't a racially motivated crime, it was a group of dumb girls who were drunk and lashed out violently.[/QUOTE] That attacked a woman for being white... yeah...

[QUOTE=Vasili;33603941]I don't think its racist to dislike Somalians, blacks yes but not Somalians. It would be prejudiced though.[/QUOTE] Somalians are an ethnic group. [quote]Race is classification of humans into large and distinct populations or groups by factors such as heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as appearance, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status.[/quote] so yeah it is racist. [editline]6th December 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Hobo4President;33603957]That attacked a woman for being white... [/QUOTE] the judge obviously disagreed and considering they had the court case i think they know a little bit more than you do. but you read MUSLIMS ATTACK WHITE WOMAN so you automatically assume it must be racially motivated. i doubt they would have attacked anyone had they not been on drugs. and what difference does it make exactly?? it has the same max term.

don't be such a israeli thisispain i hate all somalians white black or chinkenese sure 99% of them are black muslims but I'm not racist!!

[QUOTE=thisispain;33603972] the judge obviously disagreed and considering they had the court case i think they know a little bit more than you do. but you read MUSLIMS ATTACK WHITE WOMAN so you automatically assume it must be racially motivated. i doubt they would have attacked anyone had they not been on drugs. and what difference does it make exactly?? it has the same max term.[/QUOTE] Except I came to that conclusion after reading both articles, both of which clearly state that before attacking her they were calling her a "white slag" and "white bitch". The fact they may not have done it if they weren't affected by alcohol should be no excuse. I like how you jump to conclusions on why I think this yet say I am jumpign to conclusions without reading the article, quite ironic...

[QUOTE=thisispain;33603972]Somalians are an ethnic group. so yeah it is racist. [editline]6th December 2011[/editline] the judge obviously disagreed and considering they had the court case i think they know a little bit more than you do. but you read MUSLIMS ATTACK WHITE WOMAN so you automatically assume it must be racially motivated. i doubt they would have attacked anyone had they not been on drugs. and what difference does it make exactly?? it has the same max term.[/QUOTE] Well I define racism by someone being attacked for their race, either Mongoloid, Caucasoid, Australoid, Negroid, Capoid etc, not really because of their nation state or their local DNA mix but then again the definition of racism is becoming so collective that just about anything can come under racism if it involves ones self. What happens if a Kenyan hates a Somalian? Is it racism? Just curious.

[QUOTE=Hobo4President;33604109]Except I came to that conclusion after reading both articles, both of which clearly state that before attacking her they were calling her a "white slag" and "white bitch".[/QUOTE] well good you read a daily mail article and a telegraph article i'm sure you are better informed than the judge [QUOTE=Hobo4President;33604109]The fact they may not have done it if they weren't affected by alcohol should be no excuse.[/QUOTE] uhm we're talking about a court here what they may have done or not while on alcohol is kind of the point. if they aren't likely to be violent while not intoxicated then a strong conviction is unnecessary. [editline]6th December 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Vasili;33604118]the definition of racism is becoming so collective that just about anything can come under racism if it involves ones self.[/QUOTE] uh the definition of racism has never been cemented. it's not a scientific term. white people used to enslave other white people because they were a different race until they decided that actually the race was white people, not british and the inferior other. [QUOTE=Vasili;33604118]What happens if a Kenyan hates a Somalian? Is it racism? Just curious.[/QUOTE] uh yeah

[QUOTE=thisispain;33604151]well good you read a daily mail article and a telegraph article i'm sure you are better informed than the judge uhm we're talking about a court here what they may have done or not while on alcohol is kind of the point. if they aren't likely to be violent while not intoxicated then a strong conviction is unnecessary.[/QUOTE] So people should not be appropriatly punished for their crimes? If someone kills someone in a drunken rage they should be let off lightly simply because they wouldn't "normally" do such a thing? What if they get drunk again and do a similar crime, could this not have been avoided by appropriately sentencing them earlier?

[QUOTE=Vasili;33604118]What happens if a Kenyan hates a Somalian? Is it racism? Just curious.[/QUOTE] of course that's racist if a Kenyan hates a Somalian on the basis of their ethnicity what, you think the Rwandan genocide wasn't racially motivated because they were the same broad skin colour?

[QUOTE=Hobo4President;33604220]So people should not be appropriatly punished for their crimes?[/QUOTE] 150 hours of unpaid work and a curfew seems appropriate punishment to me. much more likely to change their minds about committing crimes rather than stuffing them in a prison. the US does that and it's fucking terrible. and we're not talking about murder. beating someone up when you're drunk is a far step away from killing someone when drunk.

[QUOTE=Hobo4President;33604220]So people should not be appropriatly punished for their crimes? If someone kills someone in a drunken rage they should be let off lightly simply because they wouldn't "normally" do such a thing? What if they get drunk again and do a similar crime, could this not have been avoided by appropriately sentencing them earlier?[/QUOTE] As I mentioned before, their drunkness would have been a minor part of the case. Of course the judge commented on it [I]because the judge comments on every single fucking minutia of the case because he has to justify everything[/I] if the judge found that it wasn't racially motivated then that is good enough for it if it's as many people here say, and some gross violation of the law, it will be appealed and then sentence and charges will be altered [editline]7th December 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;33604279]150 hours of unpaid work and a curfew seems appropriate punishment to me. much more likely to change their minds about committing crimes rather than stuffing them in a prison. the US does that and it's fucking terrible. and we're not talking about murder. beating someone up when you're drunk is a far step away from killing someone when drunk.[/QUOTE] the curfew was for the one on dialysis 3 times a week, the other three get 150 hours of unpaid work if this was this first offense (sounds like it was), then a community based order is a 10000x better idea for the reasons you mentioned

[QUOTE=Contag;33604263]of course that's racist if a Kenyan hates a Somalian on the basis of their ethnicity what, you think the Rwandan genocide wasn't racially motivated because they were the same broad skin colour?[/QUOTE] the idea of race just isn't properly clear to me we have the scientific definition of races and then we have all these sub categories for each individual country that to me just seem like nationalities rather than a race. what determines a ethnic race is it culture and genetics?

[QUOTE=Vasili;33604364] we have the scientific definition of races[/QUOTE] no no no we don't all humans are part of the Homo sapiens sapiens subspecies. race was invented first as a pseudo-science.

Non Compos Mentis

[QUOTE=Contag;33600479]this is what happens when you use the daily mail a suspended sentence is not free in any sense they also go "oh they're fucking free!!!" when people get out on bail as well[/QUOTE] Everyone should have this come to mind firsthand since the media is known to overexaggerate.

So can I go and get hammered and beat up some random guy then tell the judge my religion doesn't let me drink and get away with it?

[QUOTE=Angry Pineapple;33604468]So can I go and get hammered and beat up some random guy then tell the judge my religion doesn't let me drink and get away with it?[/QUOTE] that is nothing like what happened here but sure go get yourself hurt