Alcohol fuelled Muslim girl gang attack white woman and are freed because they dont drink.

[Contag]

[QUOTE=thisispain;33604401]race was invented first as a pseudo-science.[/QUOTE]

yeah race is a sociological construct and not really used scientifically

I mean you stand around arguing whether somethings qualifies as racist or not, but it'll still be discrimination based on some racial characteristics

arguing the semantics isn't really helpful

[editline]7th December 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Angry Pineapple;33604468]So can I go and get hammered and beat up some random guy then tell the judge my religion doesn't let me drink and get away with it?[/QUOTE]

[img]http://flagdog.facepunchstudios.com/img/16x11/US.png[/img]

nope, you'll get the chair
if you say you're muslim you'll get a Cuban holiday

[Vasili]

[QUOTE=thisispain;33604401]no no no we don't all humans are part of the Homo sapiens sapiens subspecies. race was invented first as a pseudo-science.[/QUOTE]

then races don't exist because we are all homo sapiens, sub species are just things we have made up for the sake of making things easier for ourselves??

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Vasili;33604540]then races don't exist because we are all homo sapiens, sub species are just things we have made up for the sake of making things easier for ourselves??[/QUOTE]

uhm what
no we do have another sub-species in the homo sapiens named the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sapiens_idaltu]Homo sapiens idaltu[/url]

[Contag]

[QUOTE=Vasili;33604540]then races don't exist because we are all homo sapiens, sub species are just things we have made up for the sake of making things easier for ourselves??[/QUOTE]

Actually the subspecies of homo sapiens is homo sapiens sapiens
all the other human subspecies are dead

categorizing humans at a lower taxonomic rank is difficult because of how much interbreeding goes on, and how little it can correspond to external phenotypic characteristics
e.g. most African Americans having a white grandparent

[Vasili]

man fuck race is confusing

[Contag]

[QUOTE=Vasili;33604661]man fuck race is confusing[/QUOTE]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peZaQ_7GFoU&feature=related[/media]

dirty lapplanders

[Angry Pineapple]

[QUOTE=thisispain;33604504]that is nothing like what happened here but sure go get yourself hurt[/QUOTE]
Just because their religion doesn't let them do something doesn't change the fact that they DID do it and DID commit a crime. They should be responsible for their actions.
And my comment was not meant to be taken literally, shouldn't be that hard to understand sarcasm.

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Angry Pineapple;33604819]Just because their religion doesn't let them do something doesn't change the fact that they DID do it and DID commit a crime. They should be responsible for their actions.
And my comment was not meant to be taken literally, shouldn't be that hard to understand sarcasm.[/QUOTE]

yeah that's nice

feel free to read any of the other posts or the telegraph article, or go ahead and continue to make sarcastic comments about things you don't know about

[Zillamaster55]

[QUOTE=Contag;33604509]
[img]http://flagdog.facepunchstudios.com/img/16x11/US.png[/img]

nope, you'll get the chair
if you say you're muslim you'll get a Cuban holiday[/QUOTE]

First Off: The Chair is never going to be used again. It's Lethal Injections now
Second: America doesn't have some ruthless, holocaust-esque agenda against muslims.

[Angry Pineapple]

[QUOTE=thisispain;33604849]yeah that's nice

feel free to read any of the other posts or the telegraph article, or go ahead and continue to make sarcastic comments about things you don't know about[/QUOTE]
Please elaborate, you aren't going anywhere with this.
Just because they are first timers with something shouldn't waive them of consequences.

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Angry Pineapple;33604906]Please elaborate, you aren't going anywhere with this.
Just because they are first timers with something shouldn't waive them of consequences.[/QUOTE]

well then it's good that no consequences have been waived
rather than elaborating, let me make it more simple: please read the thread.

[swebonny]

What's so negative about races?

I think the intro from Wikipedia is great.

"Race is classification of humans into large and distinct populations or groups by factors such as heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as appearance, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status. "

I mean there's nothing wrong with that. We people have our differences that arose due to geographic differences and other factors and that's a fact. But no one says it has to be exploited.

I like to think that the human species are divided into races as according to the definition I quoted. But does that mean my views will differ from group to group? No, why would it?

Race is overall a quite vague word.
Open us up with a knife and all you'll see is still a human.

[Angry Pineapple]

[QUOTE=thisispain;33604960]well then it's good that no consequences have been waived
rather than elaborating, let me make it more simple: please read the thread.[/QUOTE]
I've read the thread and the article, suspending the sentence just because they felt they were victims of "unreasonable force" when the guy tried to defend his girlfriend doesn't make sense to me. To me, the fellow is at less of a fault than the three women, they don't deserve a suspended sentence.

[Contag]

[QUOTE=Swebonny;33604971]What's so negative about races?

I think the intro from Wikipedia is great.

"Race is classification of humans into large and distinct populations or groups by factors such as heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as appearance, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status. "

I mean there's nothing wrong with that. We people have our differences that arose due to geographic differences and other factors and that's a fact. But no one says it has to be exploited.

I like to think that the human species are divided into races as according to the definition I quoted. But does that mean my views will differ from group to group? No, why would it?

Race is overall a quite vague word.
Open us up with a knife and all you'll see is still a human.[/QUOTE]

because it's utterly transient and people be more accurately described with the following:
heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status

how are races able to be discretely defined?
that is, where are these 'dividing' lines?

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Angry Pineapple;33605034]I've read the thread and the article, suspending the sentence just because they felt they were victims of "unreasonable force" when the guy tried to defend his girlfriend doesn't make sense to me. To me, the fellow is at less of a fault than the three women, they don't deserve a suspended sentence.[/QUOTE]

that's not why they suspended the sentence, they suspended the sentence because of what contag posted:

[QUOTE=Contag;33603327]If it was heard summarily the maximum order term is 6 months

The following are the real reasons why it was six months, from the UK sentencing manual

- It wasn't premeditated
- The damage was relatively minor for the charge
- The victim wasn't vulnerable or in an isolated place
- She was partially defending by her boyfriend
- No weapon was used
and so on
here is another case that received 6 months sentence (albeit not suspended, as there are quite a few distinguishing features)

[editline]7th December 2011[/editline]

so in other words typical daily fucking mail inflaming racial tensions

it should be a bannable offense to use such a shit source[/QUOTE]

[Contag]

other points include:
they pled guilty
they're probably of lower socioeconomic status
their first offense
pretty young
etc.

[swebonny]

[QUOTE=Contag;33605058]because it's utterly transient and people be more accurately described with the following:
heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status

how are races able to be discretely defined?
that is, where are these 'dividing' lines?[/QUOTE]

I get what you mean. There's obviously no way to draw any line, unless you have some major scientific investigation into it all. Even after that things would break only after a few generations.

[Angry Pineapple]

[QUOTE=thisispain;33605095]that's not why they suspended the sentence, they suspended the sentence because of what contag posted:[/QUOTE]
Thank you for helping me understand the UK's sentencing, the article wasn't as informative.

[Jeep-Eep]

[QUOTE=thisispain;33602780]i wish TH89 was back so he could close retarded threads and ban retarded people who make retarded posts.[/QUOTE]

Garry ought to put him in charge of SH. He's got the kind of style it needs.

[Contag]

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;33604905]First Off: The Chair is never going to be used again. It's Lethal Injections now
Second: America doesn't have some ruthless, holocaust-esque agenda against muslims.[/QUOTE]

I was joking
I tried to indicate that with the chair comment

[Choobacca]

Fucking Muslim pieces of shit! Why do minorities always get away with this shit? If the races were reversed it probably been all over the news...

[Contag]

[QUOTE=Choobacca;33606765]Fucking Muslim pieces of shit! Why do minorities always get away with this shit? If the races were reversed it probably been all over the news...[/QUOTE]

it is all over the news you fucking racist dickhead

[Choobacca]

Muslims are pieces of shit all they do is blow each other up.

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[Contag]

[QUOTE=Choobacca;33606801]Muslims are pieces of shit all they do is blow each other up.[/QUOTE]

if that's the case they'll all be dead soon anyway
yet something I don't think that is the case

[Hail Satan]

[QUOTE=Swebonny;33599590]I wonder if Asians are allowed to hit people then after a little alcohol, because scientifically there's a higher percentage of Asians that lacks the enzyme to break down alcohol.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;33599655]Muslims are allowed to kick people to death after a few beers so I guess that Asians are allowed to gun people down after a bottle of vodka.[/QUOTE]

Probably not, if Johnny Wander is anything to go by
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ptUs5.jpg[/IMG]

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_flush_reaction]The condition is called Asian Flush[/url]

[BlackRainbow]

Religion is such a wonderful thing :rolleyes:

[Gundevil]

Another perfect example that it's near impossible to commit a hate crime against white people. Way to go double standards.

Edit:

[QUOTE=Contag;33605121]other points include:
they pled guilty
they're probably of lower socioeconomic status
their first offense
pretty young
etc.[/QUOTE]

So if you admit you fucked up, it's okay? Sorry guys, sold some crack to some school kids. Can I pick up Trash
So if I'm poor I can beat up people and yell that they should die because they are white? :dance:
So if I only killed one person my first time I should be let out? Someone tell the Norwegians so they can let Brevik go, his first mass murder.
So when I was 17 and I tried to organize a lynch mob, it's fine because I'm a kid.

Take the women out back and shoot them, no use for trash like that in society regardless of race/religion.

[Contag]

[QUOTE=Gundevil;33607739]Another perfect example that it's near impossible to commit a hate crime against white people. Way to go double standards.[/QUOTE]

another example of shit posting

[quote]The most likely victim of a hate crime in the U.S. is a poor, young, white, single urban dweller, according to an analysis of Justice Department statistics collected from between July 2000 and December 2003.[/quote]

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Gundevil;33607739]Another perfect example that it's near impossible to commit a hate crime against white people. Way to go double standards.[/QUOTE]

umm
it wasn't a hate crime in the first place
hate crime is if you join up with a group that decides one day to kill all homosexuals.

are some homosexuals not white people? pretty sure a lot of hate crimes get committed on white homosexuals.

[Contag]

now, I know that isn't Britain
the CIVITAS report on hate crime, which lots of people like to say shows that the law is biased against minorities, states that 75% of the defendants of hate crime offenses are white

75%, geez that sounds like it's pretty biased against white people, right?

no that's wrong and stupid and you should feel bad for not using your brain
people forget that Britain is mostly white so it makes sense that most defendants are white

more than 90% of Britain is white, so you'd expect white people would be charged about 90% of the time, and not 75%