4chan's "project harpoon" brings out the beauty in overweight women
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[QUOTE=RichyZ;48502154]the population of japan and weeaboos across the west[/QUOTE]
Never thought I'd see the day that weeaboos were used as a positive reinforcement for an argument holy shit.
[editline]20th August 2015[/editline]
I mean you aren't wrong just hilarious is all
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;48501130]The point is to make people mad and laugh as people get mad. It's better when the people getting mad start acting like hypocritics.[/QUOTE]
you didn't respond on your turn of our argument :(
[QUOTE=geogzm;48503301]you didn't respond on your turn of our argument :([/QUOTE]
Yes it is about the nerd thing. Your retraction was a slippery slope and in the same post you fell justified to insult people because on your conception they're "bad".
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48501996]Society doesn't have nearly as much of an impact on beauty standards like you people try to pretend[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48502060]Can you show me how culture, and society has NOTHING to do with attraction and the subjective definition of beauty? [/QUOTE]
I know you can present better arguments than this. I believe in you.
[QUOTE=JXZ;48503887]I know you can present better arguments than this. I believe in you.[/QUOTE]
I did?
My main argument is that a simple and quick observation of the real world shows that culture plays a huge role in that because of how disparate "beauty" standards really are over borders, both cultural and legal, as well as time.
I'm honestly not surprised NotMeh is making a big stink in this forum. He's the resident Reactionary and that just doesn't mix with the more liberal ideals of most Facepunch users.
nah i was talking about how notmeh's "doesn't have nearly as much" became "NOTHING"
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;48503537]Yes it is about the nerd thing. Your retraction was a slippery slope and in the same post you fell justified to insult people because on your conception they're "bad".[/QUOTE]
the fact that you're going to complain about me admitting something I said that I think was wrong shows me exactly who I'm arguing with. you see it as a weakness, I don't imagine you resolve many conflicts
there are bad people, yes. people do bad things. not everybody who does a bad thing is a bad person, but people who do things like this are generally bad people. a bad person being somebody that hurts others. this shouldn't offend you lol
i understand your reputation now and i'm done feeding you
[QUOTE=geogzm;48506710]the fact that you're going to complain about me admitting something I said that I think was wrong shows me exactly who I'm arguing with. you see it as a weakness, I don't imagine you resolve many conflicts
there are bad people, yes. people do bad things. not everybody who does a bad thing is a bad person, but people who do things like this are generally bad people. a bad person being somebody that hurts others. this shouldn't offend you lol
i understand your reputation now and i'm done feeding you[/QUOTE]
If you don't see the irony in all this, I agree, let's stop.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48501805]We are programmed to find certain traits (both bodily and facial) beautiful, for the purpose of finding an ideal mate
On top of that, being obese is inherently not beautiful (the term "chubby chaser" would simply not exist if it was)[/QUOTE]
On a wider scale of things, a majority of people are genetically programmed to not take high sexual interest in unhealthy people.
However, you also have to agree that there are common exceptions. For example, homosexuals-- they aren't looking for an 'ideal mate'. They can't even pass on any offspring, and this makes up a good 5% of the human population. People [I]do[/I] deviate in sexual interests.
[I]However,[/I] once again on the bird's-eye view, there's no doubt that the [B]majority[/B] of people within our culture share a fairly specific amount of similar interests, and if the majority view is considered the definition of 'attractive', then it's just about entirely correct to say that being obese is unattractive, considering that the [I]majority[/I] of people find obesity to be an unattractive trait.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48504969]I'm honestly not surprised NotMeh is making a big stink in this forum. He's the resident Reactionary and that just doesn't mix with the more liberal ideals of most Facepunch users.[/QUOTE]
Reactionary? What's so reactionary about his quoted post above, assuming that's what you're referring to? What's be being 'reactionary' to? The majority of people (within our culture) have [I]never[/I] taken sexual interest in obese people, and it isn't reactionary to claim that.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48501996]Society doesn't have nearly as much of an impact on beauty standards like you people try to pretend
Obese women were never the height of attractiveness, those paintings don't say anything more than the painter's own preferences[/QUOTE]
Year 2100: Thin Women were never considered the height of attractiveness, all those thin women on magazine covers were merely the editors preferences.
[QUOTE=Monkah;48507696]
Reactionary? What's so reactionary about his quoted post above, assuming that's what you're referring to? What's be being 'reactionary' to? The majority of people (within our culture) have [I]never[/I] taken sexual interest in obese people, and it isn't reactionary to claim that.[/QUOTE]
Just to clarify, I mean reactionary as the thought process, where people don't exactly think things through completely and instead just React(ionary) immediately. Honestly we all do it it's just some more than others.
And I wasn't talking about that post in specifics, but there was a post before where he seemed to be implying that fat people don't get hate because all he's ever seen is skinny people getting attacked. Besides, he's had posts on other threads like this.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48501996]Society doesn't have nearly as much of an impact on beauty standards like you people try to pretend[/QUOTE]
Than why do different societies have different standards for what is considered beauty?
Foot binding, Lip plates, fat women in certain african cultures, feminine men in certain asian cultures, manly cowboy men in certain western cultures, etc.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/UBmruLv.jpg?1[/img]
I don't mind this, would like to see icon myths slimmed down.
You mean blurred?
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;48508934]Can somebody please point out exactly what's wrong with the first?[/QUOTE]
She's fat dude. Open yr eyes.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48481975]responding to the "fact" that since fat suicide is outweighed by fat people losing weight, fat shaming is perfectly acceptable
when in reality, fat shaming leads to a culture that we have today, where young women and men sometimes get a warped view of themselves a young age causing them to starve themselves to look good for shitty people[/QUOTE]
Anorexia/Bulemia is not about trying to look good, it's about having a sense of control over one's body. I don't get where the myth of "trying to have an unrealistic body" comes from.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;48508934]Can somebody please point out exactly what's wrong with the first?[/QUOTE]
The chub is quite evident. If you're into that, that's fine, but don't be so blind as to not realize what some might find wrong with 1st one.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;48509367]She's no landwhale, you are very picky.[/QUOTE]
There are many nuances between Auschwitz survivors and 'landwhales'.
[QUOTE=Monkah;48507696][I]However,[/I] once again on the bird's-eye view, there's no doubt that the [B]majority[/B] of people within our culture share a fairly specific amount of similar interests, and if the majority view is considered the definition of 'attractive', then it's just about entirely correct to say that being obese is unattractive, considering that the [I]majority[/I] of people find obesity to be an unattractive trait.[/QUOTE]
Theoretically, what if the majority thought that stoning people for trivial shit that wouldn't bother most people in this universe was justified? Would you say that they're entirely correct?
Just because most of of the people don't think obesity is attractive (and are programmed that way, assuming that you're right) doesn't automatically mean that they're objectively right. It just means that there's a species with a majority of it preferring thinner people. It's a standard preference, sure, but to argue that it's an objectively-correct preference in a universe where humans, other animals and Earth are hardly the main focus is pretty silly.
[QUOTE=Faunze;48494539][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMUmTokUkAA37J6.jpg[/IMG]
I think this guy mighta missed the point.[/QUOTE]
Personally, I'd say she looks fine. She isn't horribly obese and isn't covered with rolls, wrinkles, and flabs.
[QUOTE=Skerion;48510213]Theoretically, what if the majority thought that stoning people for trivial shit that wouldn't bother most people in this universe was justified? Would you say that they're entirely correct?
Just because most of of the people don't think obesity is attractive (and are programmed that way, assuming that you're right) doesn't automatically mean that they're objectively right. It just means that there's a species with a majority of it preferring thinner people. It's a standard preference, sure, but to argue that it's an objectively-correct preference in a universe where humans, other animals and Earth are hardly the main focus is pretty silly.[/QUOTE]
If you define attractiveness as what most people find attractive then most people finding something attractive does mean that it is objectively attractive.
If you don't, what's your definition of attractiveness?
[QUOTE=_Axel;48510280]If you define attractiveness as what most people find attractive then most people finding something attractive does mean that it is objectively attractive.
If you don't, what's your definition of attractiveness?[/QUOTE]
Are we going with a personal definition or the textbook definition?
[QUOTE=AbioFlesh;48510353]Are we going with a personal definition or the textbook definition?[/QUOTE]
Let's hear both I guess.
[QUOTE=_Axel;48510280]If you define attractiveness as what most people find attractive then most people finding something attractive does mean that it is objectively attractive.
If you don't, what's your definition of attractiveness?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how I would define attractiveness other than it being a state of someone looking in a way that may appeal to someone based on that someone's preference. For me, my preference consists of a little bit of what the majority thinks and some other stuff. Not that it matters, though, because it's just as subjective as every other preference. Maybe I was programmed that way along with others, but that's just about it. It doesn't make me a god who's always "right".
[QUOTE=_Axel;48510420]Let's hear both I guess.[/QUOTE]
The definition of "attractive" is to be pleasing or arouse one's interests.
[QUOTE=Ithon;48508536][img]http://i.imgur.com/UBmruLv.jpg?1[/img]
I don't mind this, would like to see icon myths slimmed down.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, but this is just stupid. That's just not what Santa Claus is about. He's supposed to be grandfatherly, he's supposed to be jolly and perfectly fine with himself being a bit big.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48510538]I'm sorry, but this is just stupid. That's just not what Santa Claus is about. He's supposed to be grandfatherly, he's supposed to be jolly and perfectly fine with himself being a bit big.[/QUOTE]How is being grandfatherly or jolly associated with being fat? Hell, over here Santa is actually not fat and we've been doing just fine with that.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;48510551]How is being grandfatherly or jolly associated with being fat? Hell, over here Santa is actually not fat and we've been doing just fine with that.[/QUOTE]
You just don't understand I guess...
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48512534]You just don't understand I guess...[/QUOTE]
Why don't you explain then? Because someone who delivers presents overnight and looks morbidly obese is just weird.
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