4chan's "project harpoon" brings out the beauty in overweight women
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[QUOTE=Aldawolf;48482423]Hell, even in a world where shitty food is cheaper, it's not like you can't lose weight, you just have to portion your food right. Read the damn labels, measure your food and count the calories. Labels are important! They tell you how many chips is 100 calories and how much of this chicken is 200, so then all you have to do is get a calorie intake appropriate for your weight to lose it. Anyone on any budget with any amount of time can do this if they take 2 minutes out of their day to look at their foods and portion them right.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying weight loss is impossible or anything like that, but it's also important to recognize that different factors weigh into it and visible change isn't something that happens overnight. At the end of the day, what other people do with their body shouldn't really be my concern either
Like, I started losing weight in 2012 and knocked off two stone but gained a lot of it back when I started birth control, which just absolutely killed my motivation until a few months ago where I got my shit together again
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48482575]do people on tumblr even matter
i mean, people on 4chan unironically think hitler did nothing wrong
theres an entire section on there devoted to being essentially a hive of neo-nazis (ofc someones going to say no /pol/ is actually just ironic joke haha lel! kek!)[/QUOTE]
tbh i've probably only known 3 SJWs outside of Tumblr in my whole life and I complain about them a lot
Hahaha this is fucking great :v:
[QUOTE=Velocet;48481776]It's satire
[t]http://media.townhall.com/townhall/reu/ha/uploads/2015/7/24/15.png[/t][/QUOTE]
Oh, I'm sorry. You couldn't catch up to the bad guys you were still catching your breath is pretty much what would happen in any video game or movie if it was like this.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48482575]do people on tumblr even matter
i mean, people on 4chan unironically think hitler did nothing wrong
theres an entire section on there devoted to being essentially a hive of neo-nazis (ofc someones going to say no /pol/ is actually just ironic joke haha lel! kek!)
radical communities are going to continue to exist and continue to not make an impact worth mentioning on the world at large
i've yet to see any dumb tumblr things actually exist in real life (outside of a few college people saying dumb things which isn't anything new) or dumb /pol/ things that exist outside of already established hate groups[/QUOTE]
I agree with you but, no offense, can you stop shitposting for a second? Not this post specifically but just in general, people would take you seriously and it'd help all of us if you didn't act like you were trolling them.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48482575]do people on tumblr even matter
i mean, people on 4chan unironically think hitler did nothing wrong
theres an entire section on there devoted to being essentially a hive of neo-nazis (ofc someones going to say no /pol/ is actually just ironic joke haha lel! kek!)
radical communities are going to continue to exist and continue to not make an impact worth mentioning on the world at large
i've yet to see any dumb tumblr things actually exist in real life (outside of a few college people saying dumb things which isn't anything new) or dumb /pol/ things that exist outside of already established hate groups[/QUOTE]
because people posting on 4chan are often just shitposting and it's trolls trolling trolls while Tumblr is often people's entire identity found in a web browser.
This is going to be super amusing to watch [B]unfold[/B].
But seriously, I'm really interested in seeing the reactions. The whole idea of calling "fat shaming" become someone thinks that 300+ lbs is obese is ridiculous. Weighing 300+ lbs is never a healthy normal.
I can't understand it
How come people want to make overweight issues and fat issues seem HEALTHY?
By its own definition, being fat or overweight is not SANE.[B] It's a fucking disease.[/B]
How hard is it to follow a diet? To breakfast healthy stuff, to lunch healthy stuff and to dinner healthy stuff at least 6 days a week?
"Healthy stuff" well yes, of course. If you eat 6 days at Pizza hut, BK, MC, Wendys, KFC and then Sunday you eat a chicken breast with some boiled potatoes, it's not help you in anything.
If people are stupid and naive enough to follow Coca Cola's advice and eat all that shit and then think that with some "Oh, let's jog for 1 one hour every day" you are going to live past 50, they deserve all comments about being unhealthy and irresponsible.
Plus, people who eat well and exercise, have a better skin tone and look better than those who are always on junk food. Is anybody willing to discuss this?
So if we follow "Beauty equals healthiness" then yes, being overweight or fat is being less beautiful.
And nobody can come and tell me "Bu-bu-but my genetics!". Genes can't develop mutations so much in the span of 30 years to generate the amount of obese people there is today.
The only people who should be accepted as they are is those who REALLY can't reduce their fat issues with a healthy diet and regular exercise. The guy who does Sambo with me is my same height yet weighs 120kg, and goes 6 days a week to SAMBO. (6 days a week, 2 hours) He's not some dude who said "Fuck it, I'll eat cheetos 24/7" and is laying on some couch watching TV.
People who just slap fat people in magazines and give them voice and push the notion of "Hey look she's fat! But, guess what? She's healthy as all of us" are extremely awful.
The only way overweight people can be attractive or seen as healthy is if we go backwards 600 years......
[QUOTE=NiandraLades;48482277]Instead of people's insults and disgusts about fat people, I'm way more interested in hearing their suggestions for those who want to lose weight but don't have the funds/are forced to shop on a tight budget, or have other issues such as lack of free/preparation time[/QUOTE]
The vast majority of people who are overweight aren't forced into it by no fault of their own; while economic factors play a role in a lot of people's issues, it's still very possible to eat healthy (OR LESS) and exercise with budget and time constraints. I spend about an hour total commuting each day, 12 hours working and still find time to cook a quick meal and go to the gym before bed. Economics can't be a catch-all excuse, especially considering 90% of the people being "harpooned" in this ad are well-to-do, middle class white teens who have plenty of time to post on Tumblr about fat-shaming instead of spending that time cooking a meal or going to the gym.
[editline]18th August 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=NiandraLades;48482580]what other people do with their body shouldn't really be my concern either[/QUOTE]
This isn't necessarily true either (sorry not meaning to go off on your posts at all, just kinda throwing my hat in the ring here because it's an interesting topic); in countries like the UK or now the USA (to an extent) that have some form of socialized healthcare, other people's health now DOES affect you, because they're going to be using more healthcare resources and putting more strain on the system. I work in healthcare and it's.. annoying? Maybe that's not the right word but either way, it's not right having people coming in and sucking up our time and resources, screaming at us to give them sugary snacks and soda while they're diabetic and about to lose a leg. Being overweight isn't healthy and it DOES affect people other than the overweight person. That's not to say being rude or discriminating against fat people is okay, it's definitely not. But the idea of fat-acceptance is unhealthy and semi-delusional imo.
[QUOTE=Zyler;48482301]It's a difficult situation, often a person's weight problems are caused specifically by lifestyle situations that are out of their control. Although there's usually something else that is very wrong if someone is, for example, morbidly obese, that goes outside of lifestyle factors. These include things like depression or illness [B]that should be treated by the appropriate professionals.[/B] As for budgets/lack of funds, I support the installment of outdoor gyms in public parks for specifically this reason. You don't need an electric treadmill or a bench press to exercise, setting up metal bars and specially designed workout tables similar to those in a children's playground would be enough for most people. Paths or walking tracks can also be set up to practice power-walking, jogging and running.[/QUOTE]
Except in America such care is not widespread, cheap, or readily available.
I know one psychologist in the 4 nearest counties that my insurance will accept.
I think this is one reason why Americans tend to be fatter; the alternatives (healthy food, proper medical care, active lifestyle) are all too expensive for us to maintain.
Okay I'm going to start off by saying that I like fat girls. I generally find them more attractive than thin girls, that's just the way I am. I can't help it any more than one can help being attracted to the same sex. So naturally I'm all for fat acceptance. A lot of fat shaming comes from the fact that someone doesn't like the way fat people look, and fat shaming for that reason is simply bullshit and needs to stop. Beauty is entirely in the eyes of the beholder despite what a lot of people believe, that fat people are objectively ugly and need to be shamed for it.
[b]However[/b] when it comes to the health issues, even I can see that the "healthy at any size" thing is irresponsible and dangerous. We shouldn't be encouraging anyone to be fat, nor convincing them that there is nothing wrong with it. We should definitely be educating people on the health problems with being overweight, [i]but making someone feel like shit for being fat by calling them "whales" and other such bullshit is not the way to do it[/i]. As far as I'm concerned if someone lives a lifestyle that makes them genuinely happy, and that lifestyle happens to lead to them being overweight or obese, and as long as they [i]understand[/i] the health risks that come along with that lifestyle, there's nothing more we should be telling them. It's their choice, just as it is anyone's choice to smoke or do anything else that could potentially lead to an early grave. If they're happy, let them be happy.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;48483164]Except in America such care is not widespread, cheap, or readily available.
I know one psychologist in the 4 nearest counties that my insurance will accept.
I think this is one reason why Americans tend to be fatter; the alternatives (healthy food, proper medical care, active lifestyle) are all too expensive for us to maintain.[/QUOTE]
You know
Argentina is by definition a third world country.
Yet healthy food here is way more cheaper and accessible than in the US. Even taking into account the average salary.
Checking prices, a meagre meat cut (without fat) for one person (350gr) costs you here, in a good parrilla, no more than 90 pesos. 90/14: 6 Dollars.
Hell, you can lunch at [URL="https://buenos-aires.restorando.com.ar/restaurante/la-caballeriza-las-canitas"]La Caballeriza[/URL] -a high level restaurant- with only 140 pesos. 10 dollars for:
-Entree
-Main course
-A drink or glass of wine
-A dessert
-A coffee
The places I've been to in Washington, NYC and Miami, didn't have anything like that.
Funny enough, junk food....is more cheaper in the US.
Yet the same obesity trend can be observed in the most poorest neighbourhoods of Buenos Aires. Why? Because people there don't exercise and eat all the time the most readily available food: Pasta.
[QUOTE]"Excess weight, especially obesity, diminishes almost every aspect of health," according to the Harvard School of Public Health, "from reproductive and respiratory function to memory and mood." Being obese raises one’s risk of death from a range of diseases including diabetes, high blood pressure, stroke, heart disease, asthma, sleep apnea, kidney stones, and several types of cancer. One study estimated that in 2012, 3.6 percent of all new cancers worldwide were attributable to high body mass index.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.vox.com/2015/3/25/8290261/obesity-paradox[/url]
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;48483164]Except in America such care is not widespread, cheap, or readily available.
I know one psychologist in the 4 nearest counties that my insurance will accept.
I think this is one reason why Americans tend to be fatter; the alternatives (healthy food, proper medical care, active lifestyle) are all too expensive for us to maintain.[/QUOTE]
It's no way more expensive to maintain, its just a fucktonne more convenient to go to one of the eight fast food joints on the countless strip malls you guys have than the 1-2 Targets/Meijer/Wal-Marts that are fairly spread out. Whereas in the UK I can walk 10 minutes in most areas and be at a grocery store or something with vegetables and healthy food options...
[QUOTE=Eva-1337;48482778]This is going to be super amusing to watch [B]unfold[/B].
But seriously, I'm really interested in seeing the reactions. The whole idea of calling "fat shaming" become someone thinks that 300+ lbs is obese is ridiculous. Weighing 300+ lbs is never a healthy normal.[/QUOTE]
That's not fat shaming. Fat Shaming is when you literally go out of your way to make someone feel like a piece of shit with the intent that it will get that fat person to lose weight because they don't want to feel like that anymore. It's like a lite version of Facism for weight loss. In reality this doesn't work at all as it's supposed to, and honestly anyone still doing it is actually just trying to bloat their self-esteem and ego by doing this.
Besides, no one in their right mind actually thinks that being obese is healthy. Fat-acceptance is just a bunch of idiots who thinks that by promoting fat as being healthy it will somehow get fat people to lose weight...
Honestly, you could eat fast food every single day and still lose weight if you made sure to not eat very much.
In the end, weightloss is really hard. You have to trade the short term enjoyment every meal, every day, every week, etc. for a long period of time in order to gain a distant goal that you often can't see progress to. It's hard, especially when you've built bad eating habits over an entire lifetime.
In my opinion, the best way to lose weight is to do it with other people. It's a whole lot easier to make hard choices when you have to answer to people you don't want to disappoint.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;48482493]Assuming you have a normally functioning body, just following that formula WILL make you lose weight. On a conservative diet, you could lose about a pound a week. Mine is a little more strict, and I averaged two pounds per week.[/QUOTE]
Some people act as if the laws of thermodynamics don't apply to them when it comes to weight loss-- which just means they're doing something wrong.
I lost about 40 pounds in ~four and a half months at 6'2" & 1200cal/day. It wasn't hard. I wasn't even exercising. Hell, I even ate shit food like burgers, pizza, and burritos two or three times a week.
Losing weight is incredibly simple-- find how many calories [I]x[/I] has, and then eat only [I]y[/I] amount of calories every day. The issue I have with a majority of obese people is that they're either convinced that their obesity isn't an issue, or-- the more common reason-- they're too lazy to actually spend the ~thirty minutes of research and MyFitnessPal signups it takes to start losing weight. And if they're lazy, why give them any sympathy? Nobody's asking them to run miles, just stop with the four meals a day and plan out your meals a little better.
Also, to any people looking to get in shape here (assuming you're at a 1500cal/day diet), try a half Panera Bread sandwich + coffee for breakfast (~400), a protein/granola bar for lunch (~100, + an apple if the bar isn't enough for you) and then enjoy a ~1000 calorie meal for dinner, which is pretty much room for two McDonalds big macs-- or whatever else meal you might have planned. Preferably not McDonalds, but it literally doesn't even matter, as long as you're maintaining a consistent and effective calorie deficit. (500cal to 1000cal deficits, aka 1lb to 2lb a week losses.)
4chan wouldn't give a fuck about these women if they were skinny. The issue with 'fat shaming' is that people who do it don't actually care about the individual, they just want an excuse to insult someone and still somehow feel as if they did a [I]good[/I] thing. Personally, I don't see much point in insulting a random stranger on the street unless they've committed some public act of dickery... such as shouting at overweight people to 'EAT A SALAD LANDWHALE' for no good reason.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;48484192]4chan wouldn't give a fuck about these women if they were skinny. The issue with 'fat shaming' is that people who do it don't actually care about the individual, they just want an excuse to insult someone and still somehow feel as if they did a [I]good[/I] thing. Personally, I don't see much point in insulting a random stranger on the street unless they've committed some public act of dickery... such as shouting at overweight people to 'EAT A SALAD LANDWHALE' for no good reason.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure people like tess munster would be ridiculed even if they weren't fat.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;48484192]4chan wouldn't give a fuck about these women if they were skinny. The issue with 'fat shaming' is that people who do it don't actually care about the individual, they just want an excuse to insult someone and still somehow feel as if they did a [I]good[/I] thing.[/QUOTE]
Well I'm sure thats the case with some people but alot of people just want to laugh at the Health At Every Size Fat liberation crowd that wants fat to be healthy.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;48481968]This sounds like good, clean fun, where's the issue?[/QUOTE]
"Quick photoshop tutorial on how to make landwhales look human"
Links
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEIDtjouwiI[/url]
Landwhale?
For fucks sake.
Demonising people for their weight is going to make them feel worse and more likely encounter psychological issues, only worsening an addiction to food. Part of the point in fat acceptance is to end the stigma and to help people get over the personal issues at the root of their overeating disorders. plus you have so many people out there who can't help it, for some it's an addiction, from childhood for others they simply can't afford to eat well, and in some cases it literally is a metabolic issue.
This is just people trying to be funny and clever, and just being assholes and they need to shut the fuck up. Don't pretend you're doing a good thing, trying to help people lose weight by shaming them, you're not, you're just after a cheap laugh and some self congratulation for not being fat.
[QUOTE=NiandraLades;48482580]I'm not saying weight loss is impossible or anything like that, but it's also important to recognize that different factors weigh into it and visible change isn't something that happens overnight. At the end of the day, what other people do with their body shouldn't really be my concern either
Like, I started losing weight in 2012 and knocked off two stone but gained a lot of it back when I started birth control, which just absolutely killed my motivation until a few months ago where I got my shit together again[/QUOTE]
birth control pills are known to make the body store water, that's awhole different issue
[QUOTE=Kommodore;48482021]the irony of acting like you give a shit about fat people's health when you're running a massive online effort to humiliate them[/QUOTE]
yeah, this just seems like an excuse for a bunch of hateful internet nerds to be hateful internet nerds
if they REALLY wanted to make a difference they wouldn't shame people in order to combat obesity. obesity isn't desirable and shouldn't be encouraged, looking larger however isn't really a bad thing. this is just going to make large people feel like shit and chances are most of the people with real issues are going to be too depressed or crestfallen to make a change about their bodies, so this "epic stick it to the feminists" plan (or whatever it is that gets so many people's dicks hard) doesn't achieve anything of any real significance or importance at all
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;48484728]For fucks sake.
Demonising people for their weight is going to make them feel worse and more likely encounter psychological issues, only worsening an addiction to food. Part of the point in fat acceptance is to end the stigma and to help people get over the personal issues at the root of their overeating disorders. plus you have so many people out there who can't help it, for some it's an addiction, from childhood for others they simply can't afford to eat well, and in some cases it literally is a metabolic issue.
This is just people trying to be funny and clever, and just being assholes and they need to shut the fuck up. Don't pretend you're doing a good thing, trying to help people lose weight by shaming them, you're not, you're just after a cheap laugh and some self congratulation for not being fat.[/QUOTE]
How is this fat shaming? I personally find it easier to do things if I can see what I am working for. If I had someone do this to me, I would be really happy to see what is possible and can/will happen if I keep exercising.
Also I won't be accepting Fat, I won't bully them but I won't accept the lifestyle at all, it's killing people.
[editline]18th August 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=geogzm;48484850]yeah, this just seems like an excuse for a bunch of hateful internet nerds to be hateful internet nerds
if they REALLY wanted to make a difference they wouldn't shame people in order to combat obesity. obesity isn't desirable and shouldn't be encouraged, looking larger however isn't really a bad thing. this is just going to make large people feel like shit and chances are most of the people with real issues are going to be too depressed or crestfallen to make a change about their bodies, so this "epic stick it to the feminists" plan (or whatever it is that gets so many people's dicks hard) doesn't achieve anything of any real significance or importance at all[/QUOTE]
How is this shaming people? Showing a picture of them being skinny? Showing the person what is possible if you keep exercising?
[editline]18th August 2015[/editline]
Last time I checked, Shaming was when you made fun of them and bullied them. Not editing a picture to show them what they would look like if they were thinner.
Interesting that they shrink everything except the breasts.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;48484917]Interesting that they shrink everything except the breasts.[/QUOTE]
Interesting that it's 90% women pics
(because the people doing this are male internet nerds)
[editline]18th August 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Xonax;48484856]How is this fat shaming? I personally find it easier to do things if I can see what I am working for. If I had someone do this to me, I would be really happy to see what is possible and can/will happen if I keep exercising.
Also I won't be accepting Fat, I won't bully them but I won't accept the lifestyle at all, it's killing people.
[editline]18th August 2015[/editline]
How is this shaming people? Showing a picture of them being skinny? Showing the person what is possible if you keep exercising?
[editline]18th August 2015[/editline]
Last time I checked, Shaming was when you made fun of them and bullied them. Not editing a picture to show them what they would look like if they were thinner.[/QUOTE]
Except they aren't showing anyone because it's random pics from the net and even then it's pretty damn rude to begin with.
Example?
Man your Avatar could really be something different than a little dancing anime girl I mean that makes your opinion look really not valid to me, our Facepunch community largely agrees that anime girls avatars are really weird and I really frear for your future development if you follow that creepy shit look you could change it to something cool or artistic.
[QUOTE=Killuah;48484932]Interesting that it's 90% women pics
(because the people doing this are male internet nerds)
[/QUOTE]
You do realize that the fat acceptance movement is mostly made of women, right? If they wanted to piss them off then chances are that photoshopping fat men wouldn't do shit.
[QUOTE=Killuah;48484932]
(because the people doing this are male internet nerds)
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[QUOTE=geogzm;48484850]yeah, this just seems like an excuse for a bunch of hateful internet nerds to be hateful internet nerds
[/QUOTE]
lmao and i thought the people blaming everything on those [I]pesky sjws[/I] were bad
Someone is doing some mean trolling? Those pesky internet nerds! Gotta love the nerd shaming on a forum with mostly people who could pass off as nerds.
Anybody and everybody trying to promote obesity (and by proxy, death, via the many fatal ailments that obesity causes) deserves to be called the fuck out for it
[QUOTE=Xonax;48484856]How is this fat shaming?[/QUOTE]
[i]"Operation Harpoon"[/i] doesn't exactly indicate good will does it
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