• 4chan's "project harpoon" brings out the beauty in overweight women
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[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;48501873]Also can't claim it's ugly either.[/QUOTE] While being unhealthy is not attractive, I wouldn't call it ugly.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48501922]Are you serious? I'm 100% certain you're the only one who thinks this way when looking at someone thin and attractive I've never, ever had that thought run through my head[/QUOTE] You continue to illustrate you are ignorant to a multitude of different perspectives. You're correct about biological, reptile-brain attraction but your understanding beyond that doesn't seem to exceed why a flash drive may find a USB port attractive. Though, I'm sure you'd be quite a decisive caveman! You'd pick the very best girls it seems. [editline]20th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Ragekipz;48501943]While being unhealthy is not attractive. I wouldn't call it ugly.[/QUOTE] Lots of people do though :/
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48501889]If they were beautiful, they would also be universally admired, no? y'know, like models of almost every kind fat shaming would either not exist or be a problem of jealousy/envy which it quite clearly isn't[/QUOTE] You show an embarrassing lack of knowledge about history, for hundreds of years fat and obese women were considered the height of attractiveness (seen any renaissance paintings recently?). In this modern paradigm thinner women are considered to be more beautiful. And later that will change and so on and so forth. Standards of beauty change with time, how does anybody not know this. I don't think fat people are attractive at all but it's just ignorant to try and say that thinner people have always been considered more attractive
When are people going to understand that "personal/popular opinion =/=fact"? It doesn't matter how badly you think a certain type of person is unattractive, doesn't make it objective. There are people who are going to find anorexic people attractive, likewise with obese, extremely dark-skinned, pale, short, flat-chested, thin-hipped people.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;48501956]You continue to illustrate you are ignorant to a multitude of different perspectives. You're correct about biological, reptile-brain attraction but your understanding beyond that doesn't seem to exceed why a flash drive may find a USB port attractive. Though, I'm sure you'd be quite a decisive caveman! You'd pick the very best girls it seems.[/QUOTE] And you continue to illustrate that you're a pseudo-intellectual who likes to pretend that you're some sort of transcended being who doesn't operate at all on instincts Keep pretending though, I'm sure you'll live a "happy" life
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48501889]If they were beautiful, they would also be universally admired, no? y'know, like models of almost every kind[/QUOTE] You know there are plus sized models, right? They exist, and have millions of admirers around the world. Would they exist if nobody found them beautiful?
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48501982]And you continue to illustrate that you're a pseudo-intellectual who likes to pretend that you're some sort of transcended being who doesn't operate at all on instincts Keep pretending though, I'm sure you'll live a "happy" life[/QUOTE] I dunno if I'd be considered an intellectual, but I'd feel safe gambling the idea against you.
[QUOTE=Squidman;48501968]You show an embarrassing lack of knowledge about history, for hundreds of years fat and obese women were considered the height of attractiveness (seen any renaissance paintings recently?). In this modern paradigm thinner women are considered to be more beautiful. And later that will change and so on and so forth. Standards of beauty change with time, how does anybody not know this. I don't think fat people are attractive at all but it's just ignorant to try and say that thinner people have always been considered more attractive[/QUOTE] Society doesn't have nearly as much of an impact on beauty standards like you people try to pretend Obese women were never the height of attractiveness, those paintings don't say anything more than the painter's own preferences
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48501982]And you continue to illustrate that you're a pseudo-intellectual who likes to pretend that you're some sort of transcended being who doesn't operate at all on instincts Keep pretending though, I'm sure you'll live a "happy" life[/QUOTE] How about no? You are historically wrong. Flat out. Nothing else to it. You are wrong.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48501996]Society doesn't have nearly as much of an impact on beauty standards like you people try to pretend Obese women were never the [B]height of attractiveness[/B], those paintings don't say anything more than the [B]painter's own preferences[/B][/QUOTE] Isn't that how all attraction works? Preference?
[QUOTE=AbioFlesh;48502013]Isn't that how all attraction works? Preference?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=NotMeh;48501805]We are programmed to find certain traits (both bodily and facial) beautiful, for the purpose of finding an ideal mate On top of that, being obese is inherently not beautiful (the term [B]"chubby chaser"[/B] would simply not exist if it was)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48501996]Society doesn't have nearly as much of an impact on beauty standards like you people try to pretend[/QUOTE] And yet here you are trying to argue that because the larger part of society agrees with your standards of beauty then that is what is [i]objectively[/i] attractive. You make absolutely zero sense.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48502020][/QUOTE] What are you trying to convey? First you were saying beauty is objective, then things exploded, and now you're reaffirming that beautify is subjective?
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48502020]*stuff*[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=AbioFlesh;48501975]When are people going to understand that "personal/popular opinion =/=fact"?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48501996]Society doesn't have nearly as much of an impact on beauty standards like you people try to pretend Obese women were never the height of attractiveness, those paintings don't say anything more than the painter's own preferences[/QUOTE] Okay so lets go down this rabbit hole! Society doesn't have an impact on what's beautiful? REALLY? Society is the only thing that determines what beauty is. How do I know this you might be asking? Well, it's simple you see! You look at cultures around the world. Globally. Not in your backyard, but globally. When you do this, you realize that there is no unified standard of beauty. What the West considers to be attractive is not globally attractive. So therefore, there is no unified standard of beauty. So what does that tell us? Well it tells us that society DOES have an impact on the people in the society and what they find to be attractive. In certain cultures, lip stretching and extreme piercings are a sign of intense and unending beauty. But you, you here, would say those people literally do not have the right to their own thoughts on that subject. That's an extreme that breaks your rule. Your rule doesn't hold up, so obviously, society plays a huge role in what we find attractive. Now, as for "Obese women were never the height of attractiveness", you REALLY need to shut up because you are historically incorrect in a very painful way. Women of high class in the renaissance were generally speaking, chubby or fat. They had the money and wealth to eat well, and they did. And that made them fat. That also made them extremely attractive to the people at the time because their weight was a sign of vitality and virtue. It has LITERALLY Nothing to do with what the painters found attractive, and has everything to do with what the commissioners of those paintings found attractive. Please, if you're going to talk about fucking art, can you at least know something about it for fucks sakes?
Beauty has objective standards, people who don't think so and find unconventional traits attractive are a minority and are labelled as such
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48502020][/QUOTE] Now, you see, you can't say "ATTRACTION IS OBJECTIVELY DEFINED" and then follow it up with "IT'S ALL JUST PREFERENCES THAT WERE FORMED IN A VACUUM AWAY FROM SOCIETY IN A WAY THAT SOCIETY COULDN'T AFFECT THEM!" You're so confused. [editline]20th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=NotMeh;48502045]Beauty has objective standards, people who don't think so and find unconventional traits attractive are a minority and are labelled as such[/QUOTE] Okay then NotMeh, can you point to globally unified standards of beauty?
You can't argue with double-think m8.
Can you show me how culture, and society has NOTHING to do with attraction and the subjective definition of beauty? Can you show me how YOUR culture, is IDENTICAL IN IT'S OBJECTIVE MERITS AND NATURE OF DESCRIBING BEAUTY, as the cultures of the Congo and other african regions? What about northern china? What about in Sri Lanka? Are you REALLY so self centered you don't think the other cultures of the world have made their own decisions as to what is beautiful?
List of objective standards: • All I know is I like anime boobs.
In women: -round face -large eyes -wide hips -bodyfat percentage within the norm In men: -"blockier" face (defined jaw, etc..) -low bodyfat percentage -wide shoulders -some form of muscle definition Those are just some basic examples
[video=youtube;SNgNBsCI4EA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNgNBsCI4EA[/video] What is beauty?
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48502072]In women: -round face -large eyes -wide hips -bodyfat percentage within the norm In men: -"blockier" face (defined jaw, etc..) -low bodyfat percentage -wide shoulders -some form of muscle definition Those are just some basic examples[/QUOTE] You aren't very good at this debating thing are you
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48502060]Can you show me how culture, and society has NOTHING to do with attraction and the subjective definition of beauty? Can you show me how YOUR culture, is IDENTICAL IN IT'S OBJECTIVE MERITS AND NATURE OF DESCRIBING BEAUTY, as the cultures of the Congo and other african regions? What about northern china? What about in Sri Lanka? Are you REALLY so self centered you don't think the other cultures of the world have made their own decisions as to what is beautiful?[/QUOTE] He won't because he's trolling for attention. Stop giving him it.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48502072]In women: -round face -large eyes -wide hips -bodyfat percentage within the norm In men: -"blockier" face (defined jaw, etc..) -low bodyfat percentage -wide shoulders -some form of muscle definition Those are just some basic examples[/QUOTE] If what you said about men were could be applied universally, why the heck do ton of people find effeminate Japanese bishies attractive?
[QUOTE=redBadger;48501658][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hLB9Pas.png[/IMG] This picture of rebel wilson caught me off guard. If there is anything to be said about this movement, it's that a lot of these "overweight" and "fat acceptance" women actually look more attractive when they are thinner. Although they made her a bit TOO thin there, but that's not the point.[/QUOTE] dear god she looks better with meat on those proportions are SPOOKY
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;48502119]dear god she looks better with meat on those proportions are SPOOKY[/QUOTE] 2spooky4me
[QUOTE=AbioFlesh;48502114]If what you said about men were could be applied universally, why the heck do ton of people find effeminate Japanese bishies attractive?[/QUOTE] You have a point, but how many people is "a ton" ?
What weighs more a ton of fat people or a ton of skinny people?
[QUOTE=NotMeh;48502138]You have a point, but how many people is "a ton" ?[/QUOTE] Let's see, there's Japan's population in general where effeminate men are deemed more favorable than masculine ones. And then there's people all across the globe with a variety of preferences that lean more towards these kinds of men.
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