Dean Evans (Creator of FC3: Blood Dragon) had other game ideas, including a game about a jewish thei
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[QUOTE]...Ubisoft's Design Academy, which Evans describes as a retreat in which developers "get locked in a shack and go back to school," is one of the spaces in which the company has allowed him to explore these outrageous — sometimes too outrageous — ideas. Developers are put into teams and have to design paper games, brewing ideas that could possibly become fully fleshed video games somewhere down the line.
Evans' first pitch at Design Academy was a twin-stick side-scroller called Captain Uranus. The left stick controlled the captain's head while the left trigger made him puke, and the right stick controlled his bottom half while the right trigger made him pass gas.
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[QUOTE]"He has bad flatulence and is feeling a bit sick, and you can't control how he walks, he'll do it automatically," Evans explains. "He's a little drunk and a little fucked up on multiple space narcotics. The left trigger is to puke, the right trigger is your farts, and that's how you navigate around — you have to fart on your enemies to stun them, then they open their mouths and you have to fill them with puke. You can make him walk faster by puking in front of yourself and slip."
From the way Evans describes the game, you'd think it was the soberest of titles.
"As Captain Uranus, players would guide the wasted spaceman into combat against different types of aliens. The game would end with the captain approaching the final boss and sobering up only to discover he's been hallucinating the entire time — right before his wife finds him puking in a cat's litter box and kicks him out.
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[QUOTE][B]Evans' second big pitch, which he acknowledges was "incredibly offensive," was for an adventure game called So Jew Wanna Be a Thief? by a fake company named "Jewbisoft."[/B] [B]Players would be put into the role of a misunderstood Hasidic Jewish man who snuck around stealing things.[/B]
"People think he's a thief and they say, 'Oh he's just stealing shit, Jews, all about his money,' but that's not it at all," Evans explained. "He's got a serious problem, he's got kleptomania."
Despite the game's questionable name and content, its stealth mechanics were serious. The game's inventory system would have been similar to that of Resident Evil or Silent Hill, with all items laid out on a grid, but with a strategic element to their organization. Players would have to be careful what items them put next to each other so they made no noise when they ran. For example, placing two bottles next to each other would cause a clinking sound that would alert security guards when running.
"I tried really hard to get that game made and of course ... that's never going to happen," Evans says. It's not surprising that a major international company wouldn't want to publish a game that uses anti-Semitic stereotypes as a punchline — but Evans is all about challenging what people find acceptable.
"I don't have any real tangible trade skills, but you know, I can rattle off ideas nonstop," he adds. "I guess my special power is exciting other people."[/QUOTE]
Source: [url]http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/28/5319662/dean-evans-blood-dragon-ubisoft-next-game[/url]
Archive.today version: [url]https://archive.today/4w15e#selection-1691.0-1713.154[/url]
I'd play So Jew Wanna be a Thief.
But I'll have to settle with Kingdoms of Amalur and playing as a Jew wizard with skills in Mercantile, stealth, and persuasion
Oy vey.
[QUOTE]fake company named "Jewbisoft."[/QUOTE]
Based on a true story.
I'd love to see a MGS-like game where instead of calling a para-medic or a gun specialist for info, you call a rabbi
"Snake, you cannot eat that ration. It's not [i]kosher[/i]."
"-This animal carcass seems to be some kind of jackal"
"-Did you say 'shekel'?"
"-No, I said 'jackal'."
"-Oh."
[quote]The game's inventory system would have been similar to that of Resident Evil or Silent Hill, with all items laid out on a grid, but with a strategic element to their organization. Players would have to be careful what items them put next to each other so they made no noise when they ran. For example, placing two bottles next to each other would cause a clinking sound that would alert security guards when running.[/quote]
That sounds kinda interesting. Not enough to carry the game obviously, but it could make the actual thieving thrilling, while most stealth games are focused on knocking out patrolling guards.
[QUOTE=WhyNott;45979969]I'd love to see a MGS-like game where instead of calling a para-medic or a gun specialist for info, you call a rabbi
"Snake, you cannot eat that ration. It's not [I]kosher[/I]."
"-This animal carcass seems to be some kind of jackal"
"-Did you say 'shekel'?"
"-No, I said 'jackal'."
"-Oh."[/QUOTE]
"Rabbi, can I trust this woman?"
"She's a shiksa, of course not!"
*INCOMING CALL*
"Eli! It's your mother! Why haven't you been calling! Are you trying to kill your mother?"
"..."
"When are you going to get a REAL job?"
"How come you ONLY call when you want to save? You never want to talk with your mother!"
He could easily make a good thievery game without having to use the stereotypes that have been a detriment to my people for hundreds of years.
The character being kleptomaniac has no effect on the fact that this guy, wanting to make a game that exploits these stereotypes, is also not even Jewish from what I can find. He has no right to be speaking out for my people in this way, because it is still harmful.
This is a load of anti-semitic garbage, as are a lot of the posts in here. You goyem need to stay in your lane.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;45980732]you had me going there till the last sentence, try harder next time[/QUOTE]
Had you going on the fact that a Jew can be pissed about non-jews joking about my people in a hurtful way?
Try harder to be edgy in exploiting my stereotypes next time.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;45980765]Reminds me of this tbh
[video=youtube;mV7m6IIN_tI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV7m6IIN_tI[/video][/QUOTE]
...I had a slight chuckle at a Seinfeld joke...
Is it time for me to end it all?
[QUOTE=Riller;45980977]...I had a slight chuckle at a Seinfeld joke...
Is it time for me to end it all?[/QUOTE]
Seinfeld is GOAT
[QUOTE=WhyNott;45979969]I'd love to see a MGS-like game where instead of calling a para-medic or a gun specialist for info, you call a rabbi
"Snake, you cannot eat that ration. It's not [i]kosher[/i]."
"-This animal carcass seems to be some kind of jackal"
"-Did you say 'shekel'?"
"-No, I said 'jackal'."
"-Oh."[/QUOTE]
"Snake, if you want to go on to the afterlife, it is imperative that you circumcise yourself immediately."
"-How am I supposed to do that in the middle of the jungle?"
"-Search your survival pack for the machete"
[QUOTE=Riller;45980977]...I had a slight chuckle at a Seinfeld joke...
Is it time for me to end it all?[/QUOTE]
No, Seinfeld is great
It's strange to think people don't like Seinfeld.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;45980746]Had you going on the fact that a Jew can be pissed about non-jews joking about my people in a hurtful way?
Try harder to be edgy in exploiting my stereotypes next time.[/QUOTE]
I can get it, I get that stereotypes hurt, I get that discrimination hurts too, but this isn't really any that. This is a guy (and possibly others?) making a stupid innocent joke. Race, creed, ethnic, belief, religion, sexuality, and other differences; will only truly become trivial once we can joke about it and share in life as humans together.
So I can get it, but you're targeting the wrong people, you're targeting what is clearly a joke. Target racists, target anti-semitics, target homophobics. Don't target people making a stupid joke that is just a stupid joke.
This is coming from someone in a minority group, your heart is in the right place. But one thing I realized is, if we can't just joke about it and call eachother faggots and niggers, and kikes; and then laugh alike together? Then these differences between us will never be overcome. We're human and more than a singular facet of identity and perhaps society would push forward if we stopped making them such an important thing to tip-toe over.
Don't make stupid jokes that exploit other people then, maybe you won't get called out for it.
Also you; as a non-jew, telling me what I, as a Jew; should find offensive? No dude.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;45981105]Don't make stupid jokes that exploit other people then, maybe you won't get called out for it.
Also you; as a non-jew, telling me what I, as a Jew; should find offensive? No dude.[/QUOTE]
I'm telling you as a homosexual who's father never accepted me, and cannot marry my boyfriend and adopt and enjoy the thousands of other freedoms straight people enjoy, that yes; you are targeting the wrong people.
Someone making a joke to make a joke, is making a joke. Someone who is attacking and insulting to demean you or others, is malicious.
I do not care what you are, nor what you stand for. You're jewish, I'm homosexual, amazing. How about I introduce you to the transexual people I know, or the people with Autism, how about one friend who is missing a few limbs, or another who uses a laptop and is bed-ridden.
There is no reward there, there is no arguing there. We all struggle in life, some more than others. I am not telling you as a "non-jew", I'm telling you as a fellow human-being, to fight and advocate; but to pick what is truly a battle and what is truly a joke.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;45981158]I'm telling you as a homosexual who's father never accepted me, and cannot marry my boyfriend and adopt and enjoy the thousands of other freedoms straight people enjoy, that yes; you are targeting the wrong people.
Someone making a joke to make a joke, is making a joke. Someone who is attacking and insulting to demean you or others, is malicious.
I do not care what you are, nor what you stand for. You're jewish, I'm homosexual, amazing. How about I introduce you to the transexual people I know, or the people with Autism, how about one friend who is missing a few limbs, or another who uses a laptop and is bed-ridden.
There is no reward there, there is no arguing there. We all struggle in life, some more than others. I am not telling you as a "non-jew", I'm telling you as a fellow human-being, to fight and advocate; but to pick what is truly a battle and what is truly a joke.[/QUOTE]
"Don't target anti-semites for being anti-semites! It just makes trouble!! Don't be mean ever!!"
How about the people saying these hurtful things, actually stop saying these hurtful things; instead of the people who are oppressed just having to "put up with it"?
THIS is "just a joke" to you because you don't understand Jewish issues.
I don't think you'd appreciate a game about a gay dude who just HAD to fuck every dude who moved, who had a ton of stereotypes and slurs flung at him BUT WAIT; he's actually a nymphomaniac, not just your stereotypical gay dude, he's misunderstood!!
It's still playing off of hurtful and detrimental stereotypes, while using a gimmick as a cheap cop-out to allow one to say as much offensive, childish shit as possible.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;45980689]He could easily make a good thievery game without having to use the stereotypes that have been a detriment to my people for hundreds of years.
The character being kleptomaniac has no effect on the fact that this guy, wanting to make a game that exploits these stereotypes, is also not even Jewish from what I can find. He has no right to be speaking out for my people in this way, because it is still harmful.
This is a load of anti-semitic garbage, as are a lot of the posts in here. You goyem need to stay in your lane.[/QUOTE]
Mate I'm a pretty serious Jew and I thought it was funny as fuck. You need to chill out. Most Jews are great at self depreciation, so why do you have a stick up your butt?
[QUOTE=Lebowski;45981195]"Don't target anti-semites for being anti-semites! It just makes trouble!! Don't be mean ever!!"
How about the people saying these hurtful things, actually stop saying these hurtful things; instead of the people who are oppressed just having to "put up with it"?
THIS is "just a joke" to you because you don't understand Jewish issues.
I don't think you'd appreciate a game about a gay dude who just HAD to fuck every dude who moved, who had a ton of stereotypes and slurs flung at him BUT WAIT; he's actually a nymphomaniac, not just your stereotypical gay dude, he's misunderstood!!
It's still playing off of hurtful and detrimental stereotypes, while using a gimmick as a cheap cop-out to allow one to say as much offensive, childish shit as possible.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, I get it. I get that discrimination hurts, I get that being looked at differently or made fun of, also hurts.
In all transparency, I don't know this guy; but its obviously a topic beyond this one instance. A joke is a joke, and that is all it will ever be, sometimes jokes can carry messages and that is true, but that brings me to my point.
Something that is malicious is exactly that, while something something that is meant to be a joke, is exactly that.
Your Jewish issues, My Homosexual issues, other people's issues, they're all the same. We want to be loved, understood, treated and looked at as equals and have the same life and rights and not live in any kind of fear or oppression. Our issues are not unique, different groups that go against the grain of society have always faced these.
If that game was malicious meant to make fun of Homosexuality, I wouldn't be happy about it, but if its just a stupid joke or even perhaps, an intelligent satire? That's totally fine with me, because the point isn't to be hurtful, its meant to either point out how absurd a stereotype or belief is, or to just make a joke.
So I get it, and I get why you think the way you do, and I respect that. I'm simply asking for your sake, and your life; to make sure what things are jokes, no matter how crude, and what is intentionally hostile. I laugh and look at gay jokes and make them all the time, because I'm secure in who I am, I am a human-being and I know that if no ill-will is made, then that's that.
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;45981223]Mate I'm a pretty serious Jew and I thought it was funny as fuck. You need to chill out. Most Jews are great at self depreciation, so why do you have a stick up your butt?[/QUOTE]
Because being a Self-Hating Jew to appease the people who would rather see us as lesser is pandering to the oppressor.
Maybe it's because other "pretty serious Jews" are actually really tired of hearing how greedy the world sees them?
oy vey hand over the shekels
[QUOTE=Lebowski;45981244]Because being a Self-Hating Jew to appease the people who would rather see us as lesser is pandering to the oppressor.
Maybe it's because other "pretty serious Jews" are actually really tired of hearing how greedy the world sees them?[/QUOTE]
Do you frequent tumblr by any chance, you seem to put off that "I'm so oppressed and I can't take a fucking joke" type of vibe judging by your posts in this thread, you are just being childish.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;45981235]Like I said, I get it. I get that discrimination hurts, I get that being looked at differently or made fun of, also hurts.
In all transparency, I don't know this guy; but its obviously a topic beyond this one instance. A joke is a joke, and that is all it will ever be, sometimes jokes can carry messages and that is true, but that brings me to my point.
Something that is malicious is exactly that, while something something that is meant to be a joke, is exactly that.
Your Jewish issues, My Homosexual issues, other people's issues, they're all the same. We want to be loved, understood, treated and looked at as equals and have the same life and rights and not live in any kind of fear or oppression. Our issues are not unique, different groups that go against the grain of society have always faced these.
If that game was malicious meant to make fun of Homosexuality, I wouldn't be happy about it, but if its just a stupid joke or even perhaps, an intelligent satire? That's totally fine with me, because the point isn't to be hurtful, its meant to either point out how absurd a stereotype or belief is, or to just make a joke.
So I get it, and I get why you think the way you do, and I respect that. I'm simply asking for your sake, and your life; to make sure what things are jokes, no matter how crude, and what is intentionally hostile. I laugh and look at gay jokes and make them all the time, because I'm secure in who I am, I am a human-being and I know that if no ill-will is made, then that's that.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter what IS or ISN'T intentionally hostile; any joke, detrimental of another person, is still born from a place of prejudice; even if it's just meant as "a joke".
You aren't represented by what you intended to do, but what you did.
Dean Evans decided to put it out there that he thought it was funny to try to exploit other people's stereotypes (NOT being of those people, thus he's obviously not going to have the understanding that a Jew attempting a similar satire would) for his own personal gain.
[editline]14th September 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Pokeman493;45981267]Do you frequent tumblr by any chance, you seem to put off that "I'm so oppressed and I can't take a fucking joke" type of vibe judging by your posts in this thread.[/QUOTE]
OH man, I better stop crying about how us Jews are oppressed, even though everyone finds all this garbage about shekels and shit SO fucking hilarious, even though I dunno, there was a massive genocide NOT that long ago, and anti-semitism is once again at a historical high due to Israel-Palestine relations because people think Zionist = Jew or Israel = Jew and people treat it with such a blase attitude despite evidence of aforementioned anti-semitism ala the riots in France; because man oh man Pokeman493 just WON'T hear about anyone talking shit on how he [I]has[/I] to enjoy anti-semitic jokes.
Fuck off goyem.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;45981195]"Don't target anti-semites for being anti-semites! It just makes trouble!! Don't be mean ever!!"
How about the people saying these hurtful things, actually stop saying these hurtful things; instead of the people who are oppressed just having to "put up with it"?
THIS is "just a joke" to you because you don't understand Jewish issues.
I don't think you'd appreciate a game about a gay dude who just HAD to fuck every dude who moved, who had a ton of stereotypes and slurs flung at him BUT WAIT; he's actually a nymphomaniac, not just your stereotypical gay dude, he's misunderstood!!
It's still playing off of hurtful and detrimental stereotypes, while using a gimmick as a cheap cop-out to allow one to say as much offensive, childish shit as possible.[/QUOTE]
A gay version of Bone Town? I am down.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;45981272]It doesn't matter what IS or ISN'T intentionally hostile; any joke, detrimental of another person, is still born from a place of prejudice; even if it's just meant as "a joke".
You aren't represented by what you intended to do, but what you did.
Dean Evans decided to put it out there that he thought it was funny to try to exploit other people's stereotypes (NOT being of those people, thus he's obviously not going to have the understanding that a Jew attempting a similar satire would) for his own personal gain.[/QUOTE]
But the problem here is that you assume the joke from the start, is always detrimental and always born of prejudice. What of satire and what of innocent jokes. Not everything in life in meant to be taken literally, nor meant to be hostile.
Intentions do matter, especially with artistic works and subjective content like a Joke. Sure, you cannot justify shooting someone because "You thought you would save the world". But clarifying that the material you released is a satire or joke? Is very different. You'll see a lot of work out there that has its entire meaning or tone shift, if you were under the assumption of serious, or joke/satire.
I don't even know what kind of personal gain he would gain and I don't know why you assume its meant for his personal gain either. Nor do I see why being Jewish would really matter. Many people close to me have things I do not have, while I cannot live the life they do, I have had similar experiences and have bonded closely to those people, that I understand and in a bystander way, experience some of the things they do.
One of the best ways to ensure the stagnation of understanding, humanity and culture, and to ensure that we look at eachother's differences as a fortress, is to dis-include others due to differences or to say we have certain entitlements that others do not have.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;45981272]
Dean Evans decided to put it out there that he thought it was funny to try to exploit other people's stereotypes (NOT being of those people, thus he's obviously not going to have the understanding that a Jew attempting a similar satire would) for his own personal gain.
[/QUOTE]
Even though, you know, there was no personal gain to it, it's not like he intended to actually make the game.
Intentions don't matter when what you put out there still comes off as prejudiced.
He has no right to be speaking of my people in such a way; no amount of pedantic white posts from [I]another[/I] gay white dude trying to equate what he's experienced to what I've experienced will convince me otherwise.
You are [B]not[/B] entitled to use my stereotypes in an attempt to be an edgy game designer. I dis-include you.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;45981272]
Fuck off goyem.[/QUOTE]
And this isn't helping.
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;45981316]Even though, you know, there was no personal gain to it, it's not like he intended to actually make the game.[/QUOTE]
Ahem.
[quote]Despite the game's questionable name and content, its stealth mechanics were serious. The game's inventory system would have been similar to that of Resident Evil or Silent Hill, with all items laid out on a grid, but with a strategic element to their organization. Players would have to be careful what items them put next to each other so they made no noise when they ran. For example, placing two bottles next to each other would cause a clinking sound that would alert security guards when running.
[B]"I tried really hard to get that game made and of course ... that's never going to happen,"[/B] Evans says. It's not surprising that a major international company wouldn't want to publish a game that uses anti-Semitic stereotypes as a punchline — but Evans is all about challenging what people find acceptable.[/quote]
he sure admitted to trying if you had read the article.
[editline]14th September 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;45981330]And this isn't helping.[/QUOTE]
"OH no! I got called a non-jew! I'm so offended!" Lmao, you silly goyem.
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