Growing talks of an impeachment trial of President Obama. Senior advisor says it's a 'possibility'.
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I sometimes wonder if the kneecapping of the education system through funding cuts was a deliberate long play to create a more stupid and manipulatable populace. I mean, Fox News' business model depends on it.[/QUOTE]
Yes? I mean, screw the conspiracies here - the stupider the people, the easier it is for the government.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;45513103]And the people you hear saying shit like that often can't define socialism. Not that they're even using it incorrectly, they don't understand it as a concept, only a right-wing talking point codeword that they know can be slipped into a range of contexts.
I sometimes wonder if the kneecapping of the education system through funding cuts was a deliberate long play to create a more stupid and manipulatable populace. I mean, Fox News' business model depends on it.[/QUOTE]
Well you're partly right. But the hate of the word comes from the half century Cold War against them damned commies and anything relating to it at all.
I think most people are angry at the government as a whole. Just taking a wildass guess, but maybe nobody really knows who to blame so everyone just points to the guy at the top?
It certainly seems like a bunch of government run entities have been running amok lately and whenever congress tries to investigate what happens, said entity stalls until something else diverts attention away from their mistakes. I'm not 100% sure what the total responsibilities of the president involve, but one would assume that managing or overseeing federal agencies would be one of them.
If that is the case, I'm guessing most people would be accusing him of really poor management for not bringing the agencies under control. In fact, the management of federal agencies seems so poor that some people think his administration is actively involved in the agencies' bad decision making.
However I'm not certain if the president is entirely to blame for this.
Considering that many agencies are exceptionally better at obstructing federal investigations than doing their jobs, it's hard to really know who to blame. It's also hard to see how any president could make progress of any kind with these conditions (possibly a good or bad thing depending on kind of policies you support; your mileage may vary). Maybe this is part of the reason why nothing good comes out of Washington these days?
Having said that, my best guess would be they're going after him for either gross negligence or incompetence. However to me it seems more like a problem of systematic corruption rather than just one politician making bad decisions. He's probably receiving the shaft end of the blame due to being in charge while a political clusterfuck of biblical proportions is taking place.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;45512810]I understand that it would be poor political play to start name calling other politicians and using hate words. But I'm sure there's some rowdy republican that's about to burst at the seams and just call Obama a Nigger just because.
I mean no matter what poor excuse the right wingers say, it's obvious to me what their problem is. It's the same problem they've had with Obama since Day fucking 1 of his being President of the United States. He's colored (I say colored because some say he's mixed, so whatever). You can say he's "trying to boss us around" or "he's a hardcore liberal" or "MAH GUNZ", but the major problem I just know the Repubs are just dying to admit, is that they don't WANT a dark skinned Leader. They probably don't give a crap about a colored senator, or congress man, or representative, or even a Supreme Court Judge. But for them the very idea of a President that's not white, and/or not Straight, [B]and/or not Christian, would rustles their jimmies really bad.[/B][/QUOTE]
The day we get an Agnostic/Atheist president is the day I will finally have faith in my country.
Yes, please. Give it your best shot, Republicans. Completely and totally humiliate and discredit your party right before the 2016 election so we can gleefully send you all into political exile.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45520553]Yes, please. Give it your best shot, Republicans. Completely and totally humiliate and discredit your party right before the 2016 election so we can gleefully send you all into political exile.[/QUOTE]
Seeing the way both the Republican and Democratic parties act, I really wish people would just set aside their political bias and vote for independent party candidates.
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;45520536]The day we get an Agnostic/Atheist president is the day I will finally have faith in my country.[/QUOTE]
I rather think it would be best come the day we can have a man of different race and not have people get mad about his race.
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[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;45520575]Seeing the way both the Republican and Democratic parties act, I really wish people would just set aside their political bias and vote for independent party candidates.[/QUOTE]
Keep dreaming mate.
[QUOTE=Oizen;45511938]While I haven't like Obama's presidency all that much, I honestly can't think of a reason to impeach him.[/QUOTE]
2012 Benghazi attack which killed a US diplomat and many other people? No other fucking
president in the history of our country would ever let that slide, but Obama just sat back and fucking did jackshit.
Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, a former POW held captive by the Taliban for [b]6 years[/b]. The only fucking reason Obama got the arrangement for him to be released is because he had fucked up and wanted the media to stop talking about, and to start talking about this guy. Yeah, it's apparent he was a deserter/traitor, but this wasn't known until AFTER he was released.
I could go on and on, but you would still be oblivious to it, because apparently if I criticize Obama, I get hated on due to being "racist." I have actually sat down and talked to people like you, and they always come back with petty arguments or pull the race card. It's bullshit.
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;45512065]I want to see the crashing and burning SO MUCH. these dicks have done nothing but act like children for 6 years, all the while trying to pretend it's not because he's black and has a foreign name.[/QUOTE]
Except it's not because he's black at all. He's an idiot. He is the worst president we have ever had (well, he's tied with Jimmy Carter). There's a few bad apples in the Republican party, just as there are in the Democrats. Quit pulling the race card.
[QUOTE=abcpea;45512535]i like obama id have a beer with him[/QUOTE]
PR. And it's sure working by the looks of it. You've never even met the guy, how could you possibly know what he's like?
[QUOTE=Shinycow;45521202]2012 Benghazi attack[/QUOTE]
And you have now lost all credibility with me.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;45521254]And you have now lost all credibility with me.[/QUOTE]
What's wrong with that?
Even if you disagree with one part, claiming that I lose all credibility is ignorant.
[QUOTE=Shinycow;45521261]What's wrong with that?[/QUOTE]
Because anyone who doesn't like Obama, pulls that out of their asses.
What I was talking about, what everyone else talks about, is something that has been a concern between certain civillians of the United States, and Obama, and that has always been, Obama being a colored President.
Did we forget this or something? Obama is THE first non-white President of the United States.
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I.e. Of course people are going to have bitch fits about a Black President, whether Politician or non.
Hell it could have been any non-white guy, Michael Jordon, Will Smith, Kanye West, Snoop Lion, etc. and people would STILL have a fit, just because a black guy became the leader of America.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;45521272]Because anyone who doesn't like Obama, pulls that out of their asses.
What I was talking about, what everyone else talks about, is something that has been a concern between certain civillians of the United States, and Obama, and that has always been, Obama being a colored President.
Did we forget this or something? Obama is THE first non-white President of the United States.[/QUOTE]
I don't really think what I said about benghazi is incorrect though? I can give you more examples if you really want it. But what I said before, it won't matter because you'll just choose to ignore it.
And as for being the first non-white president: So what?
It's looking like you're trying to say that because he's not white he gets a free pass?
Or am I interpreting you wrong somehow?
I don't fucking care if it's the first asian-american woman president; If they're a terrible president then they're a terrible president.
[QUOTE=Shinycow;45521202]2012 Benghazi attack which killed a US diplomat and many other people? No other fucking
president in the history of our country would ever let that slide, but Obama just sat back and fucking did jackshit.[/QUOTE]
You do know that 12 diplomatic compounds were attacked while Bush was president, right? And we didn't hear about any of them. To date, only five were attacked while Obama has been president.
[QUOTE=Banned?;45521317]You do know that 12 diplomatic compounds were attacked while Bush was president, right? And we didn't hear about any of them. To date, only five were attacked while Obama has been president.[/QUOTE]
Yet only one of them included a death of a diplomat (David Foy), which occured in Pakistan.
And that was the only American injured.
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/03/AR2008090300523.html"]As seen here,l[/URL] [URL="http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/75409.pdf"]and here,f[/URL] the United States - Pakistan relations are very important. "A stable, democratic, economically thriving Pakistan is considered vital to U.S.
interests. "
The United States military has been on raids into Pakistan, and the Pakistani government is very opposed to the military being in there. Hence why nothing happened.
[QUOTE=Shinycow;45521202]2012 Benghazi attack which killed a US diplomat and many other people? No other fucking
president in the history of our country would ever let that slide, but Obama just sat back and fucking did jackshit.
Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, a former POW held captive by the Taliban for [b]6 years[/b]. The only fucking reason Obama got the arrangement for him to be released is because he had fucked up and wanted the media to stop talking about, and to start talking about this guy. Yeah, it's apparent he was a deserter/traitor, but this wasn't known until AFTER he was released.
I could go on and on, but you would still be oblivious to it, because apparently if I criticize Obama, I get hated on due to being "racist." I have actually sat down and talked to people like you, and they always come back with petty arguments or pull the race card. It's bullshit.
Except it's not because he's black at all. He's an idiot. He is the worst president we have ever had (well, he's tied with Jimmy Carter). There's a few bad apples in the Republican party, just as there are in the Democrats. Quit pulling the race card.
PR. And it's sure working by the looks of it. You've never even met the guy, how could you possibly know what he's like?[/QUOTE]
You have to be the most ignorant person I've ever seen.
In fact let's take a look back to the Reagan administration. In the late 1970s a US Marine compound in Indonesia was attacked by militants. 289 injured, 9 dead. Reagan just sat the fuck back and did jack shit about it. However, the Democrats who controlled the House at the time started a completely bipartisan investigation of the incident. TLDR, people really shouldn't be crying about Benghazi unless someone makes sure everyone is involved.
Hell even without that Benghazi doesn't matter. Day after day, US compounds are attacked all around the world, hundreds dieing every year stretching all the way back to around probably the Reagan administration. So I ask you this question, What makes these 5 people count more than them.
Give me all your other little "incidents" that caused Obama to be the worst President ever. Hell according to you, Nixon, the most lying and traitorous president of all time, scores higher than Obama... That's just wrong.
[QUOTE=Shinycow;45521295]I don't really think what I said about benghazi is incorrect though? I can give you more examples if you really want it. But what I said before, it won't matter because you'll just choose to ignore it.
And as for being the first non-white president: So what?
It's looking like you're trying to say that because he's not white he gets a free pass?
Or am I interpreting you wrong somehow?
I don't fucking care if it's the first asian-american woman president; If they're a terrible president then they're a terrible president.[/QUOTE]
And then him catching the guy who committed benghazi, what a worthless sack of shit president would do that?
Honestly, you're being selective about who you're throwing shit at to make Obama look worse. he is by no means a good president. but terrible? Nope.
Jesus fucking Christ the US right wing are the most petulant children I've ever seen call themselves politicians. For his entire presidency Obama has had these dorks calling him all kinds of shit. Slandering and spreading libel before he even won the election. Trying their damn hardest to make the democrats look bad by (extremely obviously) blocking any and all attempts they make to change anything. Refusing to work together even remotely because "ahhh commies!!!"
Get your shit together and impeach those assholes. Not the guy who was given an incredibly shit deal to fix for the last six years.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;45522680]Jesus fucking Christ the US right wing are the most petulant children I've ever seen call themselves politicians. For his entire presidency Obama has had these dorks calling him all kinds of shit. Slandering and spreading libel before he even won the election. Trying their damn hardest to make the democrats look bad by (extremely obviously) blocking any and all attempts they make to change anything. Refusing to work together even remotely because "ahhh [b]commie black people!!!"[/b]
Get your shit together and impeach those assholes. Not the guy who was given an incredibly shit deal to fix for the last six years.[/QUOTE]
FTFY
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;45522700]FTFY[/QUOTE]
I really doubt most people who dislike Obama do so because he's a black person.
Not saying those people don't exist but people love to seem to grossly inflate the amount of people that do.
[QUOTE=Wolf532;45523058]I really doubt most people who dislike Obama do so because he's a black person.
Not saying those people don't exist but people love to seem to grossly inflate the amount of people that do.[/QUOTE]His race kind of is an issue for me, but for entirely different reasons. He's our first non-white president, and I wish we had somebody better to put in the history books. Then again I'm almost certain that people will debate how well Obama could have done without the Republicans being shitheads, but I really don't think he was that good of a president so far and I don't think my opinion would change even if the Republicans weren't constantly being petulant children.
[QUOTE=Wolf532;45523058]I really doubt most people who dislike Obama do so because he's a black person.
Not saying those people don't exist but people love to seem to grossly inflate the amount of people that do.[/QUOTE]
Well most of the reasons right wingers hate him fall flat or backfire, and with the whole "First Colored American President in history" thing, you'd imagine right?
Speaking of which, he is deep into his second term, and yet NOT A SINGLE SOUL HAS ATTEMPTED TO KILL HIM YET.
Isn't that fucking odd? You'd think that despite all security measures, at least one white trash redneck or someone would at least try to.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;45511854]What would be the point? The fact Obama's public relations are down the drain, his mere existence as president will continue to strengthen the Republicans/Independent parties in the House and Senate.[/QUOTE]
See, the issue is that while people may not particularly like Obama, the Republicans have proven themselves to be grossly incompetent, selfish, petty assholes who were willing to burn the country to the ground just because they lost a presidential election to a negro. And every time they do anything, they shoot themselves in the foot and show how ignorant and idiotic they actually are. They aren't a conservative party. They're a "social conservative" party. Big government so long as their version of cut-taxes-for-the-rich-and-shit-on-the-poor Jesus is at the helm.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;45523339]Well most of the reasons right wingers hate him fall flat or backfire, and with the whole "First Colored American President in history" thing, you'd imagine right?
Speaking of which, he is deep into his second term, and yet NOT A SINGLE SOUL HAS ATTEMPTED TO KILL HIM YET.
Isn't that fucking odd? You'd think that despite all security measures, at least one white trash redneck or someone would at least try to.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1410161[/url]
An attempt, not really a redneck with a gun trying to get past secret service but still an attempt.
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Also they don't care if their reasons fall flat or backfire, they're still going to hate him for reasons other than his race (which I still assume most of them do. Not every right winger is some Georgian Ku Klux Klan member.)
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;45521586]You have to be the most ignorant person I've ever seen.
In fact let's take a look back to the Reagan administration. In the late 1970s a US Marine compound in Indonesia was attacked by militants. 289 injured, 9 dead. Reagan just sat the fuck back and did jack shit about it. However, the Democrats who controlled the House at the time started a completely bipartisan investigation of the incident. TLDR, people really shouldn't be crying about Benghazi unless someone makes sure everyone is involved.
Hell even without that Benghazi doesn't matter. Day after day, US compounds are attacked all around the world, hundreds dieing every year stretching all the way back to around probably the Reagan administration. So I ask you this question, What makes these 5 people count more than them.
Give me all your other little "incidents" that caused Obama to be the worst President ever. Hell according to you, Nixon, the most lying and traitorous president of all time, scores higher than Obama... That's just wrong.[/QUOTE]
Not really; The people who assume people dislike Obama because of his race are the most ignorant people ever.
Nixon was a fuck up.
How about releasing guantanamo prisoners without notifying congress?
Not to mention they're high ranking terrorists, including one that served as chief army of staff when the Taliban was in power.
"THEY HATE HIM BECAUSE HES BLACK!"
Yeah, just like conservatives hate Dr. Ben Carson, Allen West, and Herman Cain right? Or do they not count as "black" because they aren't liberals????
I mean it couldn't be that people hate Obama because of his policies could it?
Some of you are ignorant.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;45524692]"THEY HATE HIM BECAUSE HES BLACK!"
Yeah, just like conservatives hate Dr. Ben Carson, Allen West, and Herman Cain right? Or do they not count as "black" because they aren't liberals????
I mean it couldn't be that people hate Obama because of his policies could it?
Some of you are ignorant.[/QUOTE]
i think youre ignorant to think otherwise, plenty of people here in the south say hes a dumb nigger and hate him for the most retarded shit that's out of his control (fucking gas prices really?).
crucify him
[QUOTE=codemaster85;45525325]i think youre ignorant to think otherwise, plenty of people here in the south say hes a dumb nigger and hate him for the most retarded shit that's out of his control (fucking gas prices really?).[/QUOTE]
Way to ignore his actual point. (Republicans generally love other black people because of their policies.)
I've actually heard quite a few liberals say that Republicans only pretended to like Herman Cain to fool people into thinking they weren't racist. Oh the loops a bigot has to jump through.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;45525325]i think youre ignorant to think otherwise, plenty of people here in the south say hes a dumb nigger and hate him for the most retarded shit that's out of his control (fucking gas prices really?).[/QUOTE]
I'm never said those people didn't exist. But saying that the majority of conservatives think like that is like saying the majority of feminists are tumblr SJW feminists who think men are evil. It's ignorant and a gross mischaracterization of a group based on an irrational minority.
I wanna meet some of these people who think he should be impeached. I see this as just another political stunt to try and drive the country more right instead of left.
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