• Texas Makes It Legal to Say 'Merry Christmas'
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[QUOTE=Computrix;43196258]The idea someone would get punished for saying 'Merry Christmas' is nearly as ridiculous as a law making it legal to do so without punishment.[/QUOTE] It's not at all more ridiculous for a law to make it legal. I don't understand your logic at all.
[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;43198806]Mythologies I would assume. Religions that are pretty much unanimously considered to be no longer valid and only hipsters claim to believe.[/QUOTE] Well "Asatro" some people consider mythology, some see it as a religion. Here in Sweden, there's even political parties for that religion. Yet people refer to it in the US as "norse mythology". So then the religions counted as mythology depend on the countrys personal preferences instead of being an international idea? [editline]16th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=katbug;43198941]It's not at all more ridiculous for a law to make it legal. I don't understand your logic at all.[/QUOTE] He meant a law that makes it illegal to NOT say merry christmas. Not making it legal to say it.
Can students wish each other "Happy Hanukkah," too or is it only Christmas?
Wait it wasn't legal before?
[QUOTE=acds;43199600]Wait it wasn't legal before?[/QUOTE] Discussing theology in American public learning institutions is mostly illegal. Which is why I'm not sure knee jerks such as... [QUOTE=Starpluck;43195550]Some Christians believe their right to 'be a Christian' is under threat in conservative Texas.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=yawmwen;43195584]christians have been oppressed for too long![/QUOTE] ...are entirely warranted. I think that children should be allowed to discuss their heritage in a learning environment, be it any religion; I see no evidence here to support that people who celebrate Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Festivus, Etc. are banned from saying happy Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Festivus, Etc. also. [editline]16th December 2013[/editline] [quote]The bipartisan law also protects symbols like Christmas trees, menorahs, and Nativity scenes, as long as more than one religion is represented and a secular symbol -- like a snowman -- is on display.[/quote] I guess Star and Yawm needed something to be sarcastic about today so they knee jerked some silly holier-than-thou bullshit to make it seem like it was the oppressive white male strawman agenda at work or some shit when it's actually about allowing more freedom to students of all races, nations, and religions. The article is from the Christian Broadcasting Network, though, so of course it's gonna emphasize the Christian holiday.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;43198871]It's not. Tea party crackpots who think everybody's out to get them have this idea in their minds that it is though. If you ever want a real taste of American culture, don't get it from our conservatives because, [B]unlike the rest of the civilized world, our conservatives are reactionary, overly-nationalistic fundamentalist whackjobs.[/B][/QUOTE] Most of the conservatives I have chatted with on FP are the exact opposite. And to be honest, the Liberals are not any better. :v:
[QUOTE=BCell;43197248]Merry Christmas everybody. Why is is such a taboo to say that nowadays?[/QUOTE] Because atheists will get offended. Which is weird because I'm not offended that they don't celebrate Christmas so...? [editline]16th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Smug Bastard;43198871]unlike the rest of the civilized world, our conservatives are reactionary, overly-nationalistic fundamentalist whackjobs.[/QUOTE] That's strange because I'm none of those things.
[QUOTE=gk99;43200110]Because atheists will get offended.[/QUOTE]Not really. [editline]16th December 2013[/editline] Christmas was never about religion in my family. It was about lets listen to some Bing Crosby and Dean Martin, eat a bit more food after Thanksgiving because we're actually bears preparing to hibernate, and give each other shit that for the most part we don't want.
[QUOTE=BCell;43197248]Merry Christmas everybody. Why is is such a taboo to say that nowadays?[/QUOTE] Because atheists and co.
[QUOTE=Snowdrop;43200156]Because atheists and co.[/QUOTE]Not really, no. Its a fabricated issues. Basically, retail stores like Walmart realized that they had people who didn't celebrate Christmas and such and went "Happy Holidays, that'll work." Then the media picked up on it and went "HOLY SHIT WE CAN SPIN THIS FASTER THAN A NUCLEAR CENTRIFUGE!" [editline]16th December 2013[/editline] Like, seriously, I'm an Atheist and I consider Christmas secular since many people don't think about religion at all in the season. You say Merry Christmas to me, I'll say it right back because I don't draw a connection between Christmas and religion any more. I think most people who don't celebrate would at worst be like "Merry Christmas." "Thanks, but I'm actually Jewish." "Ohh, Happy Hanukkah then." "Merry Christmas." What you see Secularists complain about is Manger scenes at court houses and city halls and such since that is a specifically Christian image on property it doesn't belong.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;43198871]It's not. Tea party crackpots who think everybody's out to get them have this idea in their minds that it is though. If you ever want a real taste of American culture, don't get it from our conservatives because, unlike the rest of the civilized world, our [B]conservatives are reactionary, overly-nationalistic fundamentalist whackjobs.[/B][/QUOTE] Uh what are you sure you aren't just talking about the VERY vocal ones. Most liberals aren't very good either.
Was it like this before the removal of the ban. "Merry christmas officer!" "STOP, YOU'RE UNDER ARREST!"
[QUOTE=The Baconator;43197434]It's almost 2014 and people are still using the term "politically correct".[/QUOTE] Political correctness has always existed, it was just called "basic human decency" before "politically correct" came to be used for it, and before callousness and disregard for your fellow human beings became the cool thing to do
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;43195742]I do think it's stupid that you can't say "Merry Christmas" nowadays without someone getting pissed off about it. It's a friendly greeting, just like if I said, "Happy Ramadan" or whatever. All the Political Correct bullshit needs to stop.[/QUOTE] Thoses people don't realize christmas isnt for fighting over stupid shit, its so we can get along, peace and harmony.
It's interesting that in the interest of freedom and equality for all, they suppress a certain peer group from expressing something that harms no-one. In a truly equal society, people would take themselves, others, and everything that everyone says, far less seriously.
[QUOTE=J!NX;43195743][video=youtube;Vk7Y4jjF5k4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk7Y4jjF5k4[/video] Vote Rick perry, vote, openly gay[/QUOTE] i thought that was Ronald Reagan from that thumbnail also Merry Christmas texas
Happy Chrimbus keep your chrimbus bush trimmed and wet or winterman won't come with your gifts
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[QUOTE=gk99;43200110]Because atheists will get offended. Which is weird because I'm not offended that they don't celebrate Christmas so...? [editline]16th December 2013[/editline] That's strange because I'm none of those things.[/QUOTE] You could call me a nonbeliever or an atheist or whatever you call them but I still celebrate Christmas and still say merry Christmas. It's tradition to me. [editline]16th December 2013[/editline] I'm also from Texas and think this war on Christmas thing is stupid.
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;43195742]I do think it's stupid that you can't say "Merry Christmas" nowadays without someone getting pissed off about it. It's a friendly greeting, just like if I said, "Happy Ramadan" or whatever. All the Political Correct bullshit needs to stop.[/QUOTE] This isn't about political correctness ([URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQCNS4eGmuY"]a big myth[/URL]), but about laicism / secularity
What's worse about all this really is that people who designed the legislation treated like it was a major issue in schools. In Texas, many districts are already suffering from funding problems, issues with getting new teachers, run down buildings, pretty bad inequities between poor and rich districts (more so than expected, at least), and some pretty bad politicization of curriculum (I made a thread here years ago about social studies revisions). So instead of trying to deal with that, they tackle with a non-issue which was already settled in courts awhile ago, and proclaim it as a victory against PC mad ACLU and other people who hate America.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;43200128]Not really.[/QUOTE] Oh you'd think so, but there's still like, those 5 guys we don't want to offend.
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