UK: Three-party coalition may be necessary after the election
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[QUOTE=Deng;46564896]Labour and SNP won't be working together now I think given recent events.
Greens are a fringe party that won't be big enough to get into coalition.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much, the SNP have absolutely no reason whatsoever to work with Labour, and the Greens are as irrelevant as the Lib Dems.
God forbid a Labour/Green/SNP/PC/LD coalition, our country would be back in the dark ages within a year.
[QUOTE=ijyt;46564919]People said LibDems would never go with Conservatives.[/QUOTE]
SNP and Labour have a mutual hatred of each other now. Largely because Labour is their main competitor for seats and helped cockblock independence, while SNP stole most of Labours seats.
Salmond said the SNP would be dtf with anyone who sucked them off a little
[url]http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-30067390[/url]
[QUOTE=smurfy;46565014]Salmond said the SNP would be dtf with anyone who sucked them off a little
[URL]http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-30067390[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]During a BBC interview he made it clear it was "out of the question" that a deal could be done with the Conservative Party.[/QUOTE]
Funny how willing the SNP are to forget that there were the ones who voted Labour out of office in 1979 and allowed Thatcher to come to power.
[QUOTE=CMB Unit 01;46563752]It's a very real possibility, but I'd question the effectiveness of a three party coalition. We've already seen over this government's term the friction between parties, notably with the disagreement over University tuition fees and the redrawing of constituency boundaries. The Lib Dems have been little more than an irritant to the Tories in the current government. The ideological disparities between the parties, and the competitiveness of the Cabinet makes me wonder if a three party coalition would get anything done in a cohesive manner - you'll have different government departments dominated by different parties, which should make some interesting viewing to see the conflict between the big spending departments. Who knows, maybe we'll get a coalition with similar political leanings and they'll be able to compromise on some issues. It'll make for an interesting election, that's one guarantee.[/QUOTE]
You'll more likely end up with what we have, where the three parties endlessly bicker amongst themselves and refuse to budge because it means losing to the opposition. IT won't be [i]as[/i] bad because inevitably bills will float through that two of the three parties agree on enough to fast-track on through, but I forsee a lot of deadlock and childish back-and-forth in Westminster if this happens.
I kinda want to see an experiment where political parties in general are banned, where politicians instead run on their own platform. I think it would massively reduce the amount of bitching and not-getting-things-done if nobody had banners to unite under, that it'd make politicians more likely to compromise and work together in the name of the people.
[QUOTE=TestECull;46565245]You'll more likely end up with what we have, where the three parties endlessly bicker amongst themselves and refuse to budge because it means losing to the opposition. IT won't be [i]as[/i] bad because inevitably bills will float through that two of the three parties agree on enough to fast-track on through, but I forsee a lot of deadlock and childish back-and-forth in Westminster if this happens.
I kinda want to see an experiment where political parties in general are banned, where politicians instead run on their own platform. I think it would massively reduce the amount of bitching and not-getting-things-done if nobody had banners to unite under, that it'd make politicians more likely to compromise and work together in the name of the people.[/QUOTE]
Isn't there a US State with an explicitly nonpartisan legislature, but the elected members still vote pretty much along party lines? And who said that political parties can only exist formally?
If there's one good thing that could come out of the ukip rise in popularity it will hopefully be electoral reform. We should have PR not crappy FPTP and hopefully ukip will steal enough power from the other two parties to force this issue without getting enough power to push their crazy ass policies.
[QUOTE=The mouse;46565049]Funny how willing the SNP are to forget that there were the ones who voted Labour out of office in 1979 and allowed Thatcher to come to power.[/QUOTE]
The SNP of today is vastly different to the SNP of <1999. There's a reason they've gone from a protest vote to a serious political party - that is, that they're completely different to what they used to be.
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I wonder if better together will be supportive of the SNP having a large say in UK matters. Are we really better together, or are we only better together when Westminster are the ones making the decisions?
[QUOTE=The mouse;46564940]God forbid a Labour/Green/SNP/PC/LD coalition, our country would be back in the dark ages within a year.[/QUOTE]
The Tories have been giving us valiant masterful progression all this time? Fuck me, must've missed that headline in the corrections column.
[QUOTE=Flapadar;46569951]The SNP of today is vastly different to the SNP of <1999. There's a reason they've gone from a protest vote to a serious political party - that is, that they're completely different to what they used to be.[/QUOTE]
That reason is pretty much Alex Salmond. After him it'll begin a slow slide back down again once the real parties get their shit in gear.
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