[QUOTE=Nannak;36826140]Your once again keep missing the point. I think I maybe wasting my time with fools like you.[/QUOTE]
Well until Marxism starts accepting something resembling a real version of history that is quite inaccurate, I won't fall for its promise of the easy explanation of human society and history using "science".
Of course, the problem is, once Marxism starts accepting reality, then it can't be called Marxism anymore can it?
[QUOTE=Dori;36826173]okay?[/QUOTE]
Well, I decided to research even more into it, and found out that inherently it was quite flawed.
A couple of books on European history (Some on Medieval history in particular) managed to help show that the Marxist view of things is quite inaccurate.
Feminism was quite interesting too, in that women in the late 13th and early 14th centuries seemed to enjoy more rights than those of the "Enlightenment", which brought us things like Homeopathy whilst casting ignorance over the years 500 - 1500ish by painting it as a time of backwards savagery.
[QUOTE=Nannak;36826140]Y
Robert Owen was a Luddite.
The Entire point of Marxism is the working classes taking control of the means of production instead of the capitalists in [i]industrial[/i] based societies (since we still live in one) which is why it still applies today.[/QUOTE]
Erm no, Robert Owen started the cooperative movement and helped socialism to actually start getting taken seriously. The best successes that Socialism has had was in the voting booths.
Also there's a reason workers don't control the means of production, and that's because they do a pretty poor job of it. That's why we have managers who do it.
[QUOTE=Nannak;36826140]Your once again keep missing the point. I think I maybe wasting my time with fools like you.[/QUOTE]
You're the one who came into here and started ranting about Marxism. I think you're the one that needs to provide proof of your claims.
also [url]http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Courtier's_Reply[/url]
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;36826091]Hey guess what, I'm an ex communist.[/QUOTE]
Hey guess what, I'm a communist.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36826225]You're the one who came into here and started ranting about Marxism. I think you're the one that needs to provide proof of your claims.
also [url]http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Courtier's_Reply[/url][/QUOTE]
No, It was because I was giving a analysis where the misogyny comes from and I was reminding of what benefits from capitalism (Wealthy White Males). That's how Marxism is a Political Scientific Analysis of Class Society.
Of course most people deny any kind of analysis and rather prefer living in their own fishbowl.
[QUOTE=Nannak;36826339]No, It was because I was giving a analysis where the misogyny comes from and I was reminding of what benefits from capitalism (Wealthy White Males). That's how Marxism is a Political Scientific Analysis of Class Society.
Of course most people deny any kind of analysis and rather prefer living in their own fishbowl.[/QUOTE]
It's not an analysis. You just went "misogyny is because of capitalism and class society and wealthy white males". It's not technical, it doens't have any moving parts, it's not falsifiable; it's just a blank force that causes all the bad things in the world. It's the equivalent of saying "Phlogiston!" when asked about the cause of fire.
Give me a detailed explanation that actually might constrain anticipations.
[QUOTE=Pie108;36826259]Hey guess what, I'm a communist.[/QUOTE]I think I started a trend.
I'm trendsetting. [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/emoot/smug.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Dori;36825892]4chan as a whole is abhorrent. whether or not they have enclaves of less terrible posts is really not important[/QUOTE]
you could say the same thing about FP.
[QUOTE=Nannak;36826339]That's how Marxism is a Political Scientific Analysis of Class Society.[/QUOTE]
Marxism is highly theoretical and highly dogmatic, and is a very useful tool for dictators to use.
When it accepts reality, we get something more along the lines of democratic socialism.
Oh god lorem ipsum over Gabes's face.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;36826391]you could say the same thing about FP.[/QUOTE]
no, you can't. 4chan and FP are worlds apart
[QUOTE=Dori;36826428]no, you can't. 4chan and FP are worlds apart[/QUOTE]
So wildly incorrect it's not funny.
Well this was a good way to start my morning
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;36826390]I think I started a trend.
I'm trendsetting. [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/emoot/smug.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
I miss that emote :v:
I also miss byodood.
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[QUOTE=HazeFyer23;36826447]Well this was a good way to start my morning[/QUOTE]
I started my morning with it as well, I must say, I was very disappointed.
[QUOTE=Dori;36826428]no, you can't. 4chan and FP are worlds apart[/QUOTE]
the only difference is FP isn't an image board originated to discuss japanese culture. that's it.
[QUOTE=Swilly;36826456]I miss that emote :v:
I also miss byodood.[/QUOTE]Here you go: [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/emoot/byodood.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;36826503]Here you go: [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/emoot/byodood.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
I LOVE YOU!
<3
This thread is a goldmine.
I think the whole misogynist vs misanthropic argument really hits the nail on the head with this one though. That and the whole easy bait for buttmad.
not sure why anyone would see any wrong in this
if they have admin as both their user name and password they deserve everything they already have coming
[QUOTE=Dori;36826428]no, you can't. 4chan and FP are worlds apart[/QUOTE]
No, they're really not.
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At all
Would it be wrong of me to ask for the account details? :v:
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36826595]No, they're really not.
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At all[/QUOTE]
FP doesn't have people regularly spamming pictures of gore and CP and calling people niggers ironically
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seriously if you can't see how the two communities are not comparable, you should really step back from the internet for a minute
[QUOTE=Dori;36826621]FP doesn't have people regularly spamming pictures of gore and CP and calling people niggers ironically[/QUOTE]
have you ever left Sensationalist Headlines?
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CP is incrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedibly rare on 4chan anyway.
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[QUOTE=Dori;36826621]
seriously if you can't see how the two communities are not comparable, you should really step back from the internet for a minute[/QUOTE]
and if you can't see the similarity, you may need eyeglasses.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;36826636]
CP is incrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedibly rare on 4chan anyway.[/QUOTE]
This is true, CP is no longer an issue on 4chan really.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;36826636]
and if you can't see the similarity, you may need eyeglasses.[/QUOTE]
Dammit, stop doing what I do.
Also, we're closer to SA then 4chan.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;36826636]have you ever left Sensationalist Headlines?
[/QUOTE]
yes, often
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;36826636]
CP is incrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedibly rare on 4chan anyway.[/QUOTE]
no it's not, it just gets deleted quickly
[QUOTE=Dori;36826664]yes, often
no it's not, it just gets deleted quickly[/QUOTE]
and? that's no reflection on the site or community itself? i'm sure CP has been posted on FP and deleted rapidly many a time before.
[QUOTE=Dori;36826621]FP doesn't have people regularly spamming pictures of gore and CP and calling people niggers ironically[/QUOTE]
those are surface differences
also plenty of gore gets posted on facepunch
[QUOTE=Dori;36826664]yes, often[/QUOTE]
What like fast threads at all?
Because you will find a lot of stuff there that proves you wrong.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36826688]those are surface differences[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about surface differences
[QUOTE=Dori;36826695]I'm talking about surface differences[/QUOTE]
well what you're doing is analogous to claiming that someone is a different person when they change their clothing
[QUOTE=Dori;36826695]I'm talking about surface differences[/QUOTE]
how close-minded do you honestly have to be to not notice the obvious differences do they have to hit you in the prefontal cortex first
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