Erdogan warns Europeans 'will not walk safely' if current attitude persists - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51996716]I dont see how this is a threat personally. Threat has 2 parts, one of which is substance: What is he threatening to do? Go kill people? What is lost in translation is that he claims European governments are causing a situation that endangers their citizens. It is bullshit, but it is not a threat.[/QUOTE] He's riling people up to the point where they're going to do the shit he says they're going to do. No one is endangering Turkish citizens except Erdogan and his fascist party.

How has Europe responded to these recent threats from Erdogan?

Ok Turkey, a country with 10% the population and much less the economic, military, diplomatic and technological clout of the entire continent of Europe. Sounds like we have our Kim Jong, minus the nuclear threats

[QUOTE=shadow_oap;51997182]How has Europe responded to these recent threats from Erdogan?[/QUOTE] Seems like it's going to become a China/North Korea sort of thing, as Anteep suggested.

Fuck off Erdogan, no amount of stomping your feet or throwing the toys out of the pram will fix the shit you've gotten yourself into. It's like threatening a police officer, you might feel big and bad for a few moments, but all that counts for shit once the fed tazes your ass and throws you in the drunk tank.

[QUOTE=SlightReturn;51996296] I don't think anyone in Turkey would be willing to give (their own land) to a Kurdish state[/QUOTE] Since when is that land even yours? Your DNA doesn't even match to that location, you guys came to that part of the world around 1400s, around the time the Mongolian empire fell, so all the land that you claim is "yours" is just stolen. But of course your going to deny it, even though all historians agree you guys aren't from that area and migrated there around 1400s.

Does Turkey actually have anything behind it's bark other than threatening to flood Europe with immigrants? [QUOTE=vrej;52000151]Since when is that land even yours? Your DNA doesn't even match to that location, you guys came to that part of the world around 1400s, around the time the Mongolian empire fell, so all the land that you claim is "yours" is just stolen. But of course your going to deny it, even though all historians agree you guys aren't from that area and migrated there around 1400s.[/QUOTE] "Something something "Native" Americans argument #5,000,000"

[QUOTE=vrej;52000151]Since when is that land even yours? Your DNA doesn't even match to that location, you guys came to that part of the world around 1400s, around the time the Mongolian empire fell, so all the land that you claim is "yours" is just stolen. But of course your going to deny it, even though all historians agree you guys aren't from that area and migrated there around 1400s.[/QUOTE] Since when does DNA define land ownership? They came, they conquered, it's theirs now.

[QUOTE=rndgenerator;52000214]Since when does DNA define land ownership? They came, they conquered, it's theirs now.[/QUOTE] I guess I should be allowed to go to my neighbors house and murder him and anyone else that lives in that house, then claim that the land is mine, and my family has been living there for 100s of years. Also they didn't conquer the land, they murdered every human being that lived there.

[QUOTE=vrej;52000432]I guess I should be allowed to go to my neighbors house and murder him and anyone else that lives in that house, then claim that the land is mine, and my family has been living there for 100s of years. Also they didn't conquer the land, they murdered every human being that lived there.[/QUOTE]Well, if you go back to 1400 then you might actually be able to do that, I'm sure they had some sort of clause to permit this in specific situations. I don't see how murdering everyone and settling on that land is not conquering it. They literally conquered it by killing all the natives.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;52000397]I am sorry but it is ingrained in my DNA actually. I had my genome analyzed and it wrote "KARS" in ATGC codons there. Was quite surprising, I expected "TOKAT" but I guess I didnt know my origins well enough[/QUOTE] Not surprised many "Turks" nowadays are decent of the Mongolians that mixed with the locals, some are also hidden Armenians, Greeks, and Assyrians. Many of them converted to Islam and named themselves as Turks during the genocide, so they can escape from the killings. Not saying you are one of those hidden people, but there is a possibility. Kars is an ancient Armenian city, that got destroyed during the genocide. Some have estimated there are millions of these hidden people, there are many documentaries about it too. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Armenians[/url] [editline]23rd March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=rndgenerator;52000442]Well, if you go back to 1400 then you might actually be able to do that, I'm sure they had some sort of clause to permit this in specific situations. I don't see how murdering everyone and settling on that land is not conquering it. They literally conquered it by killing all the natives.[/QUOTE] Well in the definition it says, "overcome and take control of people" But they didn't control anyone, they killed. It wasn't even a war, it was just simply a genocide.

Yeah, because Turkey is the shining example of how Europe should be. Erdogan is an idiot thinking that he can throw these statements around.

[QUOTE=vrej;52000454]Not surprised many "Turks" nowadays are decent of the Mongolians that mixed with the locals, some are also hidden Armenians, Greeks, and Assyrians. Many of them converted to Islam and named themselves as Turks during the genocide, so they can escape from the killings. Not saying you are one of those hidden people, but there is a possibility. Kars is an ancient Armenian city, that got destroyed during the genocide. Some have estimated there are millions of these hidden people, there are many documentaries about it too. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Armenians[/url] Well in the definition it says, "overcome and take control of people" But they didn't control anyone, they killed. It wasn't even a war, it was just simply a genocide.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Not surprised many "Turks" nowadays are decent of the Mongolians that mixed with the locals, some are also hidden Armenians, Greeks, and Assyrians. Many of them converted to Islam and named themselves as Turks during the genocide, so they can escape from the killings. Not saying you are one of those hidden people, but there is a possibility. Kars is an ancient Armenian city, that got destroyed during the genocide. Some have estimated there are millions of these hidden people, there are many documentaries about it too.[/QUOTE] Most Turks are descended from the original natives from the land and their DNA tends to match the people that have always lived there instead of the Turkic tribes. Most Turks are Greeks, Armenians and Arabs who have lived in those areas for thousands of years. That doesn't mean Greece, Armenia and Syria can annex pieces of Turkey because of cultural descent. The situation in Kurdistan is messy and complicated, just saying Turkey should just leave because they're foreign invaders is a great oversimplification.

[QUOTE=vrej;52000454] Well in the definition it says, "overcome and take control of people" But they didn't control anyone, they killed. It wasn't even a war, it was just simply a genocide.[/QUOTE] Nice job cutting the definition to fit your agenda It actually says [quote]overcome and take control of (a place or people) by military force.[/quote] [quote]the subjugation and assumption of control of a place or people by military force.[/quote] a place OR people Doesn't have to be both or just people. They took control of a place by removing the people. It's as conquesty as it gets.

[QUOTE=RedBaronFlyer;52000210]Does Turkey actually have anything behind it's bark other than threatening to flood Europe with immigrants?[/QUOTE] They have the second largest army in NATO and they've been expanding it unlike most of Europe who have been slimming down their armies until Russia started acting up.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;52000487]I too am a crypto-Armenian, sure. Send the signal and Ill join the rebellion. When do we reverse-genocide comrade?[/QUOTE] When did I say that I am starting a rebellion, let alone a reverse-genocide? I said there is a possibility that you are one, because you said your DNA pointed towards the city of Kars. I get it that you deny things like the Armenian Genocide, but you can't deny that the city Kars used to be a major Armenian city.

[QUOTE=vrej;52001102]When did I say that I am starting a rebellion, let alone a reverse-genocide? I said there is a possibility that you are one, because you said your DNA pointed towards the city of Kars. I get it that you deny things like the Armenian Genocide, but you can't deny that the city Kars used to be a major Armenian city.[/QUOTE] That's a pretty big fucking accusation to make.

this is just like the trump situation. majority of turkish people don't support erdogan. some of you guys arent helping when you are saying dumb stuff like "vanish turkey". i have a life and i have dreams i want to accomplish. this guy is annoying me more than he is annoying you. stuff like this affects me and majority of citizens like me.

[QUOTE=JeSuisIkea;52001148]That's a pretty big fucking accusation to make.[/QUOTE] What accusation are you talking about? [editline]23rd March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Trebgarta;52001945]Hey, why are you so hostile? I just wanted to ask when we were getting West Armenia back. I mean, are we going to keep the Turks on the land after we get Historical Armenia back? [sp]My DNA doesnt point to Kars. No DNA point to any land silly. Also, are we getting Kars back for Armenia before or after we restore the Neo-Assyrian Empire?[/sp] It isnt really. A majority of Turkish people would argue about it. Safe assumption.[/QUOTE] Aren't you Turkish? Also DNA testing does point to the region that you are from, never see photos like this? [url]https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/files/2013/10/AncestryDNA-map1.png[/url]

[QUOTE=vrej;52001948]What accusation are you talking about?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]I get it that you deny things like the Armenian Genocide[/QUOTE] Where did Treb deny the Armenian Genocide

[QUOTE=JeSuisIkea;52002010]Where did Treb deny the Armenian Genocide[/QUOTE] 99% of the Turks deny it, so I don't see how my accusation was completely wrong. It's like as if someone gives you 100 coins, 99 of them will give you million dollars, but there is one coin in there that will make you one million dollars in debt instead. So considering the numbers, saying that you will most likely win million dollars is a safe assumption. Which is why I made the assumption that he denies it, because I have yet to meet a Turk in my whole entire life that accepts what happened. Not one.

[QUOTE=testinglol;52001357]this is just like the trump situation. majority of turkish people don't support erdogan. some of you guys arent helping when you are saying dumb stuff like "vanish turkey". i have a life and i have dreams i want to accomplish. this guy is annoying me more than he is annoying you. stuff like this affects me and majority of citizens like me.[/QUOTE] Is it true that the majority of Turks don't support him? I don't know one way or the other, do you have some reliable datasets to confirm?

I'm starting to see a lot of similarities between Erdogan and the Chavists...