Out of curiosity, I'd appreciate if someone informed me of the legality and illegality of such occurrence (replace rifle with household object) in the UK. I remember shitstorm in the media when it was [I]illegal [/I]to attack an intruder, iirc.
[QUOTE=IStanI;23015649]Implying all those who try to steal from you want to kill you in cold blood.[/QUOTE]
Want to risk that they won't?
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015657]I live in an apartment full of crackheads and more than once I've left the door unlocked after getting stoned and lost some cash/stuff because of it.
I don't give a fuck, because I'm not a fucking pussy and I'm above my possessions.[/QUOTE]
So tell me, if you were breaking into a house what would you do to the people inside it? Would you just tell them to sit right there while you steal their possessions, not to mention the family could have money issues and not be able to replace them?
I honestly doubt it, and by then the kid already had a gun. If the robbers saw the kid with a gun but they thought they could take advantage of him I bet you they would have. Stop trying to justify breaking into a persons house, if you are going to try and break into a house then take the risk of being shot.
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015673]you're fucking retarded if you think that actually happens
seriously
stop watching TV[/QUOTE]
You're fucking retarded if you think it can't happen.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;23015713]Want to risk that they won't?[/QUOTE]
I'll [B]fucking leave[/B], no risk involved.
[QUOTE=IStanI;23015103]My PS3 is worth more then anyone's life.[/QUOTE]
Yes, this exactly.
What I don't understand is why he keeps on presuming that wielding a gun will invariably lead to the robber's death. It won't. You don't have to shoot the guy, just scare him away.
Running away or hiding is also out of the question, because if their intention is to rob the house, they're certainly not going to let a person hinder their efforts by calling the police and whatnot. The best thing for them to do would be to pursue and subdue the homeowner and resume robbing the house unimpededly. Should the homeowner try to defend himself against being subdued, he could sustain even more injuries in the process, and that's if the robber doen't decide to outright kill him.
[QUOTE=BagMinge101;23015369]Oh God, here comes the 14 year old Gandhi again.[/QUOTE]
[quote=Ghandi]Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;23015722]You're fucking retarded if you think it can't happen.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say it can't. I said it doesn't.
innerfire answer me please
I know with how fast threads move sometimes it's easy to miss a post so I'll assume it's that and not that you don't want to reply to me
[quote]so basically innerfire if someone broke into your home and you had a means of defending yourself and/or your property and/or your family you'd be like "fuck that" and run without even making a bluffing defense?
how big a coward are you?? [/quote]
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015724]I'll [B]fucking leave[/B], no risk involved.[/QUOTE]
what if the burglar in question catches you trying to leave? you think he would just shrug that off?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;23015713]Want to risk that they won't?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5376212150896990926#[/url]
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015724]I'll [B]fucking leave[/B], no risk involved.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, like they'll happily let you go :rolleyes:
Are you high or something?
On a side note, where did Warhol go? I'm surprised he hasn't been posting.
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015724]I'll [B]fucking leave[/B], no risk involved.[/QUOTE]
you can't really run very well when both sides of your house are being invaded. Home invasions are generally done in pairs or groups because of the inherent risky nature involved.
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015711]burglars = [B]MURDERERS[/B][/QUOTE]
Criminal = Criminal
Who knows if the guy kicking down your door is going to give you a bunch of flowers or brutally murder and rape you. Either way he shouldn't be breaking into your home.
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015685]How is "don't kill people" impossible to defend? Are you brain damaged? Pro killing people?
Awesome.[/QUOTE]
How is the notion of "I intimidate or hurt (Not kill) Another being to defend my own life, my family's life, and my possessions" so hard for you to understand?
You put the robber wanting your stuff, ABOVE you owning your OWN stuff.
You'd rather have him hurt or kill you, than intimidate him.
You'd rather run, put your family/loved ones at risk, and lose everything.
You. Are. A. Fucking. Coward.
Hey innerfire, do you still need that TV?
Kay, thanks. I also took your laptop while I was breaking into your house so you would stop posting.
Just your friendly, reasonable neighborhood burglar stopping by.
There's nothing you can say that will stop innerfire from thinking that "herp derp i would just leave" is the best plan available, I would just stop trying
[QUOTE=Kalibos;23015747]innerfire answer me please
I know with how fast threads move sometimes it's easy to miss a post so I'll assume it's that and not that you don't want to reply to me[/QUOTE]
oh no "coward" what will I do, [I]not[/I] a cold machine capable of killing over such things as "corded dollar store phone" and "15 inch CRT monitor"
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015631]dvc: "Someone wants my pieces of plastic and paper? Drop the [B]fucking[/B] bomb."[/QUOTE]
innerfire: "Oh shit my identity has been stolen! I'm getting so many bills! Oh, and my parents are dead! But I'm not worried Ill just get my house taken from me and be homeless but at least I didn't HARM those nice men who took everything from me. Harming them would be awful!"
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;23015440]Holy fucking shit, YOU of all people have guns?[/QUOTE]
:smug:
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015553]he didn't "get caught", you tard[/QUOTE]
He got shot. I'm pretty fucking sure, someone caught him.
Really do you try to be retarded?
This isn't about the fact that the guy tried to steal a tv or some shit, it's about the fact that he intended to hurt someone or take something that wasn't his, something that people worked fucking hard to pay for.
It's not about the finances or legality of it, it's the fucking morality of it, [B]YOU DO NOT TAKE THAT WHICH IS NOT YOURS TO TAKE[/B]
[QUOTE=Miskav;23015764]How is the notion of "I intimidate or hurt (Not kill) Another being to defend my own life, my family's life, and my possessions" so hard for you to understand?
You put the robber wanting your stuff, ABOVE you owning your OWN stuff.
You'd rather have him hurt or kill you, than intimidate him.
You'd rather run, put your family/loved ones at risk, and lose everything.
You. Are. A. Fucking. Coward.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015787]oh no "coward" what will I do, [I]not[/I] a cold machine capable of killing over such things as "corded dollar store phone" and "15 inch CRT monitor"[/QUOTE]
you're seriously fucking delusional if you think that burglars aren't inherently violent people
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015787]oh no "coward" what will I do, [I]not[/I] a cold machine capable of killing over such things as "corded dollar store phone" and "15 inch CRT monitor"[/QUOTE]
alright...
you didn't answer my question though
Innerfire why are you trying to justify this. Nobody died, the guy got shot for breaking into a house. If anything this only helps catch the burglars.
Also, I bet your response to this would be "Well they don't HAVE to be caught if that means one of them gets shot!!! :crying:"
so basically what everyone in this thread is saying is that they are SO PARANOID that anyone with big enough balls to come into their house is also going to VIOLENTLY MURDER them and the [B]only[/B] way to escape VIOLENT MURDER is to BUY A GUN
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015787]oh no "coward" what will I do, [I]not[/I] a cold machine capable of killing over such things as "corded dollar store phone" and "15 inch CRT monitor"[/QUOTE]
STOP
ASSUMING
YOU
NEED
TO
KILL
SOMEONE
jesus fucking christ get that through your goddamn head. you don't NEED to kill someone to save your stuff.
[QUOTE=innerfire34;23015787]oh no "coward" what will I do, [I]not[/I] a cold machine capable of killing over such things as "corded dollar store phone" and "15 inch CRT monitor"[/QUOTE]
This is a yes to your question, Kalibos, considering he's using strawmen and evading the real core of the question by answering a question with ANOTHER question. that's a shitty arguing tactic and you're a fag if you think it's a legitimate tactic.
[QUOTE=bravehat;23015806]He got shot. I'm pretty fucking sure, someone caught him.
Really do you try to be retarded?
This isn't about the fact that the guy tried to steal a tv or some shit, it's about the fact that he intended to hurt someone or take something that wasn't his, something that people worked fucking hard to pay for.
It's not about the finances or legality of it, it's the fucking morality of it, [B]YOU DO NOT TAKE THAT WHICH IS NOT YOURS TO TAKE[/B][/QUOTE]
you don't fucking [B]SHOOT PEOPLE[/B] either
I'm sorry that your fucking feelings are hurt, but someone got [B]SHOT[/B]
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