Libya: Gaddafi's son (Saif al-Arab) killed in NATO airstrike - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Thy Reaper;29534407]Doesn't mean they deserve death.[/QUOTE] neither did thousands of others because you know, that totally stopped gaddaffi.

[QUOTE=RagamuffinIIII;29534454]neither did thousands of others because you know, that totally stopped gaddaffi.[/QUOTE] What's your point?

I can just imagine the outcome of this... and it ain't gonna be pretty.

The father is probably going to get back at NATO...

That's awful. He didn't deserve to die because of his fathers actions.

[QUOTE=RagamuffinIIII;29534454]neither did thousands of others because you know, that totally stopped gaddaffi.[/QUOTE] You think Gaddafi is the kind of man who will stop an genocide on his own country because his son's ask him to? They'd get killed as fast as everybody else who rebels.

[QUOTE=garychencool;29534514]The father is probably going to get back at NATO...[/QUOTE] More like the civilian population

Good job Nato. Don't feel sorry for any of them. All of his sons were assholes too. Look it up. All of his sons are controlling libyas military and big corporations. [editline]30th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;29534431]I feel bad for the mother. God knows what he will do now.[/QUOTE] Did you also feel bad when Gaddafi and Sons™ were fuckin their people in the ass?

How old were those 3 killed grandchildren of his? It'd suck hard if they were still kids. No child, no matter what family or position, deserves a fate like that.

[QUOTE=Clavus;29534936]How old were those 3 killed grandchildren of his? It'd suck hard if they were still kids. No child, no matter what family or position, deserves a fate like that.[/QUOTE] It hasn't been reported yet, but for what its worth Saif al-Arab was 29 years old.

I wouldn't be surprised if this asshole of a human being purposely had his own sons in a villa where he was supposedly living so they can be his personal meatshields or maytr. Unfortunately, NATO called their bluffs, Gadaffi somehow escaped the strikes while his sons didn't, coincidence?

[QUOTE=Clavus;29534936]How old were those 3 killed grandchildren of his? It'd suck hard if they were still kids. No child, no matter what family or position, deserves a fate like that.[/QUOTE] How about civilian children killed by Gaddafi's forces?

[QUOTE=aydin690;29535061]How about civilian children killed by Gaddafi's forces?[/QUOTE] That isn't the fucking point. Kids are far from accountable for that in the views of international right. But in the end they probably used their own families as human shields and hoped NATO wouldn't bomb them. Guess they were wrong.

[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;29534144]Never call NATO cowardly.[/QUOTE] By the same token, many Westerners call tactics used by insurgents and the Taliban plus terrorist attacks as "unorthodox", "cowardly", or a similar demeaning term while their high-tech jets and weapons systems drop smart munitions on anything with impunity.

From what I read, Saif al-Arab wasn't even a bad person. He seemed to be against what Gaddafi was doing.

Have they actually confirmed this with corpses, Gadaffi is the kind of man who might fake something like this to get some sympathy and support.

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;29535224]From what I read, Saif al-Arab wasn't even a bad person. He seemed to be against what Gaddafi was doing.[/QUOTE] It was new to me until just now, but there seem to be reports suggesting that: [url]http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110225/local/gaddafis-son-join-pro-democracy-protesters-reports.351948[/url] wikipedia: "During the Libyan uprising, Saif al-Arab was sent by his father to the eastern part of Libya to put down the protests. Combat troops and military equipment were placed at his disposal. It was reported that he later defected to the rebel side along with the troops under his command, though this is unconfirmed."

Wow, this is a serious fuck up. They were innocents; I understand casualties of war and all, but this isn't really a war, and they didn't need to die. Gaddafi does, not his family. This is a horrible loss of life bordering on murder. If the circumstances were any different, then it damn well should be treated as such.

ITT: People pretending to know Gaddafi and judge him by what we have heard on the news that he has done. He probably feels very bad at the moment and will most likely take it out on his enemies.

Was this that really assholish son? The one who sounded just like his father?

[QUOTE=Arachnidus;29535499]Wow, this is a serious fuck up. They were innocents; I understand casualties of war and all, but this isn't really a war, and they didn't need to die. Gaddafi does, not his family. This is a horrible loss of life bordering on murder. If the circumstances were any different, then it damn well should be treated as such.[/QUOTE] It was pretty clear they were aiming to kill Gadaffi, it's just that they didn't do it with as much care as they should of.

This is the result of an illegal act. It was agreed that Gadaffi would not be targeted himself but now that they have killed his son and three of his grandsons, I wouldn't blame him for unleashing all hell upon the opposition. Awesome work, NATO, make another country hate us.

[QUOTE=RagamuffinIIII;29535548]It was pretty clear they were aiming to kill Gadaffi, it's just that they didn't do it with as much care as they should of.[/QUOTE] They were at his villa, NATO probably knew Gadaffi was in his villa, but they probably never expected his sons to be there. The fact Gadaffi knows his villa is known to NATO, yet invited his sons to his villa despite the danger, and got out in time before being obliterated by the missile, seriously raises my eyebrows on that asshole.

[QUOTE=RagamuffinIIII;29535548]It was pretty clear they were aiming to kill Gadaffi, it's just that they didn't do it with as much care as they should of.[/QUOTE] If Gadaffi is the head of their armed forces, does that not make any building he's in a viable military target? Either he moved into a building full of civilians knowing full well that'd make the building a target, or he made civilians move in a building with him, exposed them to military fire. Why? Because he's a man who's lost everything, in a sense, and therefore has nothing to loose. He doesn't give a fuck about anyone but himself.

Until the Great Kim Jong-Il is alive, we are quiet! Glories to the Great Kim Jong-Il, our father.

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;29535631]Awesome work, NATO, make another country hate us.[/QUOTE] Yes, hate us by trying to kill the person THEY'RE trying to kill. I'm pretty sure the rebels don't give a shit about what happens to him or his family seeing as they also lost loved ones due to him.

[QUOTE=RagamuffinIIII;29535548]It was pretty clear they were aiming to kill Gadaffi, it's just that they didn't do it with as much care as they should of.[/QUOTE] In some ways, that's worse.

[QUOTE=Gordon Frohm;29535415]It was new to me until just now, but there seem to be reports suggesting that: [url]http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110225/local/gaddafis-son-join-pro-democracy-protesters-reports.351948[/url] wikipedia: "During the Libyan uprising, Saif al-Arab was sent by his father to the eastern part of Libya to put down the protests. Combat troops and military equipment were placed at his disposal. It was reported that he later defected to the rebel side along with the troops under his command, though this is unconfirmed."[/QUOTE] Doubt it. [quote]Gunfire rang out in celebration in the eastern rebel stronghold of Benghazi following the news that Saif al-Arab Gaddafi had been killed.[/quote] from the BBC link in the OP and I damn well doubt he would be in the same house as his father if he had joined the rebels. Did anybody read the article? [QUOTE=Arachnidus;29535499]Wow, this is a serious fuck up. They were innocents; I understand casualties of war and all, but this isn't really a war, and they didn't need to die. Gaddafi does, not his family. This is a horrible loss of life bordering on murder. If the circumstances were any different, then it damn well should be treated as such.[/QUOTE] Saif Al-Alrab was in control of military forces fighting the rebels. He was most likely just as bad as his father. He was in the same house as him, and it was pretty obvious to everybody that being near Gaddafi is kinda dangerous with bombs falling around him and whatnot, why the hell are you getting so emotional about this

They shouldn't be aiming at Gaddafi, NATO are out there to keep the skies clear and civilians safe not to assassinate Gaddafi.

[QUOTE=Chrille;29535839] Saif Al-Alrab was in control of military forces fighting the rebels. He was most likely just as bad as his father. He was in the same house as him, and it was pretty obvious to everybody that being near Gaddafi is kinda dangerous with bombs falling around him and whatnot, why the hell are you getting so emotional about this[/QUOTE] Because these are surgical strikes and intervention to stop death, not cause more of it. Accidents happen, but stuff like this just shouldn't happen. It doesn't matter who they were, they could just easily have been schoolchildren had the strike been attempted in a different part of the city. [editline]30th April 2011[/editline] Also, this. [QUOTE=carcarcargo;29535905]They shouldn't be aiming at Gaddafi, NATO are out there to keep the skies clear and civilians safe not to assassinate Gaddafi.[/QUOTE]