• US states forced to delay executions because no one will sell them lethal injection drugs - Oklahoma
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A market just opened up. This won't stop lethal injections, it will just create a market for the chemicals.
One dose left? Better draw straws.
[QUOTE=Tomberry;36155253]Excellent news. But as the us wants to buy these medications, there's cash to be done and sooner or later a new supplier's gonna pop. Well, I hope not...[/QUOTE] Generally most of these drugs are only produced inside of the EU which is really clamming down on the export of them for executions. Which is one of the problems they have in the US.
the US should just abolish the death penalty altogether because it is a outdated practice that holds no light to any honest disciplinary action people in prison are supposed to be rehabilitated, not treated like cattle
Let's use firing squads.
The use of death penalties are good... Sorry but if you did something bad enough to get one it should be done, life in prison is just a waste of fucking everyone's time and money. Inb4 butthurt Liberals who think cats should have legal rights
Execution should be reserved for the worst kind of criminals, murderers, rapists, molesters, major drug dealers, traitors. Prove they are insane, and rehabilitate them. If they are not sane, execute them in the most painless way possible.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;36164335]Execution should be reserved for the worst kind of criminals, murderers, rapists, molesters, major drug dealers, traitors. Prove they are insane, and rehabilitate them. If they are not sane, execute them in the most painless way possible.[/QUOTE] no we shouldn't. since sanity is not something one willingly disposes out of choice.
The death penalty should've been abolished a long fucking time ago. save for a few exceptional cases though. there's a few people out there that shouldn't be breathing, and are sitting in prisons, getting 3 meals a day and an hour of outdoor time.
The reason we in the US use the death penalty is because it's so ridiculously expensive to keep a prisoner for long-term rehabilitation. For instance, a life term can cost upwards of 1.5 million dollars. And that cost is offset to taxpayers. If we didn't make prisoner's lives so cushy, we could afford to keep them longer. But that violates some ridiculous "human rights" thing, which makes people angry for the same reason the death penalty does. It does beg the question, however... Should some people be allowed human rights? Are some really better than animals? At what point does a man cease to be a man?
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;36155680]It costs more to execute than to jail a prisoner for life[/QUOTE] which makes absolutely no sense, the entire mountain of paperwork is useless and a .22LR to the head is cheap and effective and there won't even be a whole lot to clean up
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36164660]which makes absolutely no sense, the entire mountain of paperwork is useless and a .22LR to the head is cheap and effective and there won't even be a whole lot to clean up[/QUOTE] Human rights. It tends to prevent efficiency. Once you get rid of human rights, you can be very efficient. Just ask the Nazis.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36164660]which makes absolutely no sense, the entire mountain of paperwork is useless and a .22LR to the head is cheap and effective and there won't even be a whole lot to clean up[/QUOTE] uh the paperwork isn't useless, it's to make sure that the person being killed is 100% guilty of the crime.
[QUOTE=thisispain;36164682]uh the paperwork isn't useless, it's to make sure that the person being killed is 100% guilty of the crime.[/QUOTE] Which is a very important thing. However, what are the odds that a person that's falsely in that position would ever be able to live a normal life again? With all the coverage they get by the media, they're either stuck in prison or dead on a sidewalk. There's not much chance for rehabilitation after your life has already been destroyed.
[QUOTE=thisispain;36164682]uh the paperwork isn't useless, it's to make sure that the person being killed is 100% guilty of the crime.[/QUOTE] or you could just not hire incompetent people to handle the executions you really could narrow all the paperwork down to ARE YOU EXECUTING THE RIGHT PERSON? in big 72 point arial black with a nice little checkbox next to it
[QUOTE=Coffee;36155685]Oh yes, let the children see it and let it imprint inside their minds so every time they blink they see a man struggling for air as he slowly dies a horrible death.[/QUOTE] Maybe if the hangman doesn't know what he's don't. Hanging kills you by snapping your neck, the thrashing around is just remnant electrical signal in the nervous system, like pig hung up in an abattoir.
You got bullets right?, line'em up on the wall
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36164787]or you could just not hire incompetent people[/QUOTE] oh you didn't even read what i wrote!!
Just hang them.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36164787]or you could just not hire incompetent people to handle the executions you really could narrow all the paperwork down to ARE YOU EXECUTING THE RIGHT PERSON? in big 72 point arial black with a nice little checkbox next to it[/QUOTE] He's talking about making sure the guy's actually guilty. Remember that article about the Texan who got executed for a crime he didn't commit? The idea behind all the paperwork and court time is to [i]avoid[/i] situations like that.
we should execute these sons of bitches by playing "Friday" and playing a random dubstep song at full blast volume in a confined room at the same time
[QUOTE=Croix;36157584]Dude you're totally right !! We should kill people to save money[/QUOTE] Unfortunately, prisoners without a face tend to get that deal when the higher-ups in Washington or their state regard them. [QUOTE=Gundevil;36157972]They have killed a person, another human being. Why the hell should we accept them? There are a lot of things I can overlook in a person but knowing they killed another person for money, a woman, their own enjoyment, no. To me that's an animal and not a person. Well it's not the people who accidentally kill someone in a bar fight, it's the serial killers, the Dahmers, Gacys, Picktons and Bundys out there that should be hung, injected or shot. Those people you CAN NOT HELP. They have no remorse and enjoy what they do and will continue doing it if they EVER get released. People like that can't and do not deserve to be 'saved'.[/QUOTE] I don't think a person like that can be saved from their own guilty pleasure of killing. A sadistic person who's already in the mindset of getting joy from hurting another person or killing them most likely won't see their actions as being all that bad (or they may and get their kicks there too). Problem is that we have to decide what's best for society, and that usually tends to be weeding out those who cause mass trouble. [QUOTE=lolwutdude;36164953]we should execute these sons of bitches by playing "Friday"[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.tonym302.com/uploads/MISC/Smiles/dayum.gif[/IMG] Great movie.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36164660]which makes absolutely no sense, the entire mountain of paperwork is useless and a .22LR to the head is cheap and effective and there won't even be a whole lot to clean up[/QUOTE] Makes absolutely no sense eh? That "useless mountain of paperwork" is the reason we have a long list of prisoners who have been exonerated from death row every year. But I guess for you and everyone else who supports the death penalty killing every single innocent person on death row is worth killing the filthy sub-human criminal scum am I right?
[QUOTE=Fausty;36156193]Wow, anyone that thinks people that are that fucking sick should live is batshit insane themselves, but hey, to each their own.[/QUOTE] You heard it here first folks! Human rights are for crazy people and murderers! [editline]2nd June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=lolwutdude;36164953]we should execute these sons of bitches by playing "Friday" and playing a random dubstep song at full blast volume in a confined room at the same time[/QUOTE] Implying both Friday and Dubstep are objectively bad.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36164787]or you could just not hire incompetent people to handle the executions you really could narrow all the paperwork down to ARE YOU EXECUTING THE RIGHT PERSON? in big 72 point arial black with a nice little checkbox next to it[/QUOTE] Ok wow you are really this stupid. Yeah ok everyone lets just streamline the death penalty. It's not like we don't already have people being wrongfully executed already or anything. Clearly what we need is to make it even easier for the justice system (which is made up of human beings who by their very nature are prone to error) to be able to funnel people through death row. All those innocent people are just necessary sacrifices. [img]http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/13049/thumbsup.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;36164787]or you could just not hire incompetent people to handle the executions you really could narrow all the paperwork down to ARE YOU EXECUTING THE RIGHT PERSON? in big 72 point arial black with a nice little checkbox next to it[/QUOTE] oh god wow, if you were actually in a position of power you would be guilty of so much third-degree murder. at least I'm sure the American government you've designed for us would be very appreciative of your viewpoint in your trial, what with the complete lack of effective appeals.
I sometimes really like death penalty to be honest. I prefer retribution for those that slay thousands for just cause to be slayed, serial rapers hanged to prevent more rapes from being caused by this person. I don't think you can treat a person like the norway and oslo serial killers, or killers in the past like jeffery dunham or even cure our "loveable" cult leader Charles Manson. If it was possible, it will take alot of money and/or take alot of time. It's not like we are batman, trying to keep the joker in Arkham Asylum when he break out more then once to kill thousands of innocent lives over and over and not yet got killed unless he committed suicide. We can't really be able to have this option in the first place... If a serial killer did somehow got treated, i doubt he will have a wonderful future. People hate him for killing the thousands and people will attempt to kill him, Companies may not even dare hire a serial killers out of fear that he will kill their own employees and cause mayham, damage his reputation for taking him in, and causes lots of chaos in the mist. he won't be able to serve in the military because of his criminality, he be nothing more then a vagrant hobo on an abandon subway... There is hardly a future for criminals after release.
[QUOTE=darkedone02;36166812] We can't really be able to have this option in the first place... If a serial killer did somehow got treated, i doubt he will have a wonderful future. People hate him for killing the thousands and people will attempt to kill him, Companies may not even dare hire a serial killers out of fear that he will kill their own employees and cause mayham, damage his reputation for taking him in, and causes lots of chaos in the mist. he won't be able to serve in the military because of his criminality, he be nothing more then a vagrant hobo on an abandon subway... There is hardly a future for criminals after release.[/QUOTE] Better just kill them then.
bring out the guillotine
Oh god, so many people on this page who didn't even bother to read the thread and still think life sentence is more expensive for the government than death sentence.
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