US states forced to delay executions because no one will sell them lethal injection drugs - Oklahoma
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[QUOTE=_Axel;36183274]Oh god, so many people on this page who didn't even bother to read the thread and still think life sentence is more expensive for the government than death sentence.[/QUOTE]
This is literally putting a price on human life.
[QUOTE=ShazzyFreak0;36155950]This discussion is reminding me of that article about the rehab island thing somewhere in a Scandinavian country. The prisoners were pretty big offenders but they were treated well and rehabilitated successfully without imprisonment in a small room. Most of them didn't re-offend if I remember right.[/QUOTE]
Problem is that they aren't Americans. Id est, the people we deal with in America aren't decent human beings.
[QUOTE=LarparNar;36158220]Is this thread bad reading central or something?
He was talking about public hanging.[/QUOTE]
Reading is for communists.
you commie
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;36155680]It costs more to execute than to jail a prisoner for life[/QUOTE]
We could always make it cheaper. .22s can cost less then 5 cents a shot. :v:
[QUOTE=ShazzyFreak0;36155950]This discussion is reminding me of that article about the rehab island thing somewhere in a Scandinavian country. The prisoners were pretty big offenders but they were treated well and rehabilitated successfully without imprisonment in a small room. Most of them didn't re-offend if I remember right.[/QUOTE]
Yes polite and good treatment goes a long way, but shouldn't polite and good behavior be expected from the prisoners in return as well? Surely American prisons wouldn't be as harsh if it weren't for the hard criminals living in a supposedly harsher country than say, Norway? So many different things and aspects are linked to this subject, like just the size of the country.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36184249]We could always make it cheaper. .22s can cost less then 5 cents a shot. :v:[/QUOTE]
Again for the umpteenth time the method of execution is not what makes the death penalty so expensive.
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;36188048]Again for the umpteenth time the method of execution is not what makes the death penalty so expensive.[/QUOTE]
Yes but a gun would be much cheaper than expensive chemicals that sometimes screw up by putting the wrong chemical in first, or too little or too much, causing horrible agonizing pain. When a bullet causes virtually none.
So instead of killing them they're just stuck in jail for the rest of their life? oh well as long as they deserve it
I'm for capital punishment, personally, but really as long as the justice system permanently removes murderers etc from society I don't mind if it's by life sentence or executions.
You know what? I guarantee you the sheer amount of paperwork and legislation that would be required to actually get all of the states to start using the firing squad or hanging as a primary method of execution would cost way more than any of the money you would save using those methods. So stop bringing it up.
[editline]3rd June 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;36188167]Yes but a gun would be much cheaper than expensive chemicals that sometimes screw up by putting the wrong chemical in first, or too little or too much, causing horrible agonizing pain. When a bullet causes virtually none.[/QUOTE]
What? Are you seriously implying that guns are infallible and that nothing could possibly go wrong in a firing squad execution? [URL="http://museumofcuriosities.blogspot.com/2010/03/firing-squad-survivor.html"]That's why nobody has ever survived the first or subsequent shots during their execution am I right?[/URL]
You know what's cheap? And what the government won't have a hard time buying in quantity?
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[QUOTE=Ridge;36189112]You know what's cheap? And what the government won't have a hard time buying in quantity?
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We already went over this and why anybody who supports the death penalty using this argument is an idiot. Do try to keep up with the thread.
Seriously, I even said it at the bottom of last page, why don't you guys stop rehashing the same crap over and over again and bring in some valuable arguments instead ?
[QUOTE=lavacano;36188187]I'm for capital punishment, personally, but really as long as the justice system permanently removes murderers etc from society I don't mind if it's by life sentence or executions.[/QUOTE]
well then logically you'd want to go for the cheaper route, right?
so, save a load of money on the appeals and just hire a doctor to evaluate them, narrow down any disorders or instabilities that might cause crime, fix said disorders, then let 'em go. much cheaper than sifting through the bureaucratic mess that is America's justice and investigation system, [I]and[/I] it neutralizes the criminal element without doing something you can't take back later, i.e. lethal injection. not to mention the much, much lower recedivism rates among people who have spent time in more therepeutic prisons.
it's simply a much more efficient, clean, and easier system than killing. it saves money, it saves lives. why not go with that?
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