[quote]Using snake-like fangs, saber-toothed dinosaur relatives of velociraptors likely subdued their prey with venom, scientists now suggest.
Paleontologists analyzed the skulls of Sinornithosaurus, whose name means "Chinese bird lizard." This narrow-snouted raptor was the fifth and most bird-like dinosaur species ever to be discovered, and lived roughly 125 million years ago in the warm, moist forests of northeastern China during the late Cretaceous.
"This is an animal about the size of a turkey," said researcher Larry Martin, curator of vertebrate paleontology at the University of Kansas Natural History Museum in Lawrence. "It was almost certainly feathered. It's a very close relative of the four-winged glider called Microraptor."[/quote]
[img]http://www005.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JurassicGallery/Sinornithosaurus.jpg[/img]
Source : [url]http://www.aolnews.com/science/article/sinornithosaurus-dinosaur-packed-venom-in-fangs/19290917[/url]
Toxic Turkeysaurus? Sounds like a pretty nasty creature...
Damn, Lizard, you are the king of Dinosaur news now.
EDIT: Hehe, Chinese Bird Lizard.
his avatar is a Raptor in a business suit. not only does that signify awesomeness, but also that he his king of dinosaurs.
good finds, Lizard.
well we're fucked now we have dinosaurs that shoot venom
Mean little bugger wasn't he?.
Is possible for humans to bring back the dinosaurs for zoos like in Jurassic park?Since they cloned the sheep...
[QUOTE=Sub-Zero;20915479]Is possible for humans to bring back the dinosaurs for zoos like in Jurassic park?Since they cloned the sheep...[/QUOTE]
Hey everybody, look at this! A new park called "Jurassic Park" just opened up and it has REAL LIVE DINOSAURS! and it's located on a remote island! Let's go to it!
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPoYzyOn44M[/media]
AMAZING, HOW IS THIS REAL? REAL LIFE DINOSAURS AND THEY AREN'T EVEN HOSTI-
[img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/21/article-0-056CF713000005DC-41_468x333.jpg[/img]
[b]OH FUCK.[/b]
[QUOTE=Sub-Zero;20915479]Is possible for humans to bring back the dinosaurs for zoos like in Jurassic park?Since they cloned the sheep...[/QUOTE]
Well, we may someday recover bits of dinosaur DNA, but that is not the route to making a Dinosaur. That has already been tried, in the movies. But it won't happen in real life. I'm not putting down the movies. I loved jurassic park. And the idea of cloning dinosaurs from DNA were covered from a mosquito preserved in Amber that once fed on dinosaurs was a brilliant fiction. It was, however, a fiction that reflected the science of its time, a fascination with DNA and the idea that we could have a complete blueprint of the dinosaur to make one. Now we are actually much closer to being able to create a dinosaur with out needed to recover ancient DNA.The project is based on new research in evolutionary developmental biology (or evo-devo) into how a few cells grow to create arms, legs, eyes, and brains all functioning together, and how changes in that growth can drive evolution. Jack Horner takes the science a step further in a plan to "reverse evolution" and reveals the awesome, eve frightening power we are now acquiring to re-create the prehistoric past. The mystery ingredient in this creation is the genetic code for building dinosaurs that lives on in modern birds, even chickens. So how do you build a dinosaur? One way is to start with a simple chicken egg, and biochemically nudge the embryo this way and that until what hatches has a tail, teeth, and forearms instead of wings. Behold: Chickenosauraus.
tl:dr : We don't need dino DNA, once we've found the genetic code for a dinosaur, then we can create one.
[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;20915630]Well, we may someday recover bits of dinosaur DNA, but that is not the route to making a Dinosaur. That has already been tried, in the movies. But it won't happen in real life. I'm not putting down the movies. I loved jurassic park. And the idea of cloning dinosaurs from DNA were covered from a mosquito preserved in Amber that once fed on dinosaurs was a brilliant fiction. It was, however, a fiction that reflected the science of its time, a fascination with DNA and the idea that we could have a complete blueprint of the dinosaur to make one. Now we are actually much closer to being able to create a dinosaur with out needed to recover ancient DNA.The project is based on new research in evolutionary developmental biology (or evo-devo) into how a few cells grow to create arms, legs, eyes, and brains all functioning together, and how changes in that growth can drive evolution. Jack Horner takes the science a step further in a plan to "reverse evolution" and reveals the awesome, eve frightening power we are now acquiring to re-create the prehistoric past. The mystery ingredient in this creation is the genetic code for building dinosaurs that lives on in modern birds, even chickens. So how do you build a dinosaur? One way is to start with a simple chicken egg, and biochemically nudge the embryo this way and that until what hatches has a tail, teeth, and forearms instead of wings. Behold: Chickenosauraus.
tl:dr : We don't need dino DNA, once we've found the genetic code for a dinosaur, then we can create one.[/QUOTE]
Trying to bring back the dinosaurs ala Jurassic Park would be an insult to the Chaos Theory.
In the movie the math dude Ian Malcom used the Chaos Theory to describe that the actions that the scientists were doing with the cloned dinosaurs could rapidly turn into an unpredictable behavior pattern and that would make it so an accident was just around the corner.
In the novel, he said this
[quote]
Physics has had great success at describing certain kinds of behavior: planets in orbit, spacecraft going to the moon, pendulums and springs and rolling balls, that sort of thing. The regular movement of objects. These are described by what are called linear equations, and mathematicians can solve those equations easily. We've been doing it for hundreds of years.
But there is another kind of behavior, which physics handles badly. For example, anything to do with turbulence. Water coming out of a spout. Air moving over an airplane wing. Weather. Blood flowing through the heart. Turbulent events are described by nonlinear equations. They're hard to solve-in fact, they're usually impossible to solve. So physics has never understood this whole class of events. Until about ten years ago. The new theory that describes them is called chaos theory.
Chaos theory originally grew out of attempts to make computer models of weather in the 1960s. Weather is a big complicated system, namely the earth's atmosphere as it interacts with the land and the sun. The behavior of this big complicated system always defied understanding. So naturally we couldn't predict weather. But what the early researchers learned from computer models was that, even if you could understand it, you still couldn't predict it. Weather prediction is absolutely impossible. The reason is that the behavior of the system is sensitively dependent on initial conditions.
Use a cannon to fire a shell of a certain weight, at a certain speed, and a certain angle of inclination-and if I then fire a second shell with almost the same weight, speed, and angle-what well happen? The two shells will land at almost the same spot - That's linear dynamics. But if I have a weather system that I start up with a certain temperature and a certain wind speed and a certain humidity-and if I then repeat it with almost the same temperature, wind, and humidity-the second system will not behave almost the same. It'll wander off and rapidly will become very different from the first. Thunderstorms instead of sunshine. That's nonlinear dynamics. They are sensitive to initial conditions: tiny differences become amplified.
The shorthand is the ' butterfly effect.' A butterfly flaps its wings in Peking, and weather in New York is different.
Chaos is not just random and unpredictable. We actually find hidden regularities within the complex variety of a system's behavior. That's why chaos has now become a very broad theory that's used to study everything from the stock market, to rioting crowds, to brain waves during epilepsy. Any sort of complex system where there is confusion and unpredictability. We can find an underlying order. An underlying order is essentially characterized by the movement of the system within phase space.
Chaos theory says two things. First, that complex systems like weather have an underlying order. Second, the reverse of that-that simple systems can produce complex behavior. For example, pool balls. You hit a pool ball, and it starts to carom off the sides of the table. In theory, that's a fairly simple system, almost a Newtonian system. Since you can know the force imparted to the ball, and the mass of the ball, and you can calculate the angles at which it will strike the walls, you can predict the future behavior of the ball. In theory, you could predict the behavior of the ball far into the future, as it keeps bouncing from side to side. You could predict where it will end up three hours from now, in theory.
But in fact, it turns out you can't predict more than a few seconds into the future. Because almost immediately very small effects-imperfections in the surface of the ball, tiny indentations in the wood of the table-start to make a difference. And it doesn't take long before they overpower your careful calculations. So it turns out that this simple system of a pool ball on a table has unpredictable behavior. [/quote]
This can apply to real life. The Chaos Theory maybe a theory but it is a theory that shouldn't be ignored.
That's fucking awesome, I want one!
"Four winged glider"
:raise:
[QUOTE=w 1 z;20915700]Trying to bring back the dinosaurs ala Jurassic Park would be an insult to the Chaos Theory.
In the movie the math dude Ian Malcom used the Chaos Theory to describe that the actions that the scientists were doing with the cloned dinosaurs could rapidly turn into an unpredictable behavior pattern and that would make it so an accident was just around the corner.
In the novel, he said this
This can apply to real life. The Chaos Theory maybe a theory but it is a theory that shouldn't be ignored.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this although how can we not discover what has not been explored yet?
[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;20915630]Well, we may someday recover bits of dinosaur DNA, but that is not the route to making a Dinosaur. That has already been tried, in the movies. But it won't happen in real life. I'm not putting down the movies. I loved jurassic park. And the idea of cloning dinosaurs from DNA were covered from a mosquito preserved in Amber that once fed on dinosaurs was a brilliant fiction. It was, however, a fiction that reflected the science of its time, a fascination with DNA and the idea that we could have a complete blueprint of the dinosaur to make one. Now we are actually much closer to being able to create a dinosaur with out needed to recover ancient DNA.The project is based on new research in evolutionary developmental biology (or evo-devo) into how a few cells grow to create arms, legs, eyes, and brains all functioning together, and how changes in that growth can drive evolution. Jack Horner takes the science a step further in a plan to "reverse evolution" and reveals the awesome, eve frightening power we are now acquiring to re-create the prehistoric past. The mystery ingredient in this creation is the genetic code for building dinosaurs that lives on in modern birds, even chickens. So how do you build a dinosaur? One way is to start with a simple chicken egg, and biochemically nudge the embryo this way and that until what hatches has a tail, teeth, and forearms instead of wings. Behold: Chickenosauraus.
tl:dr : We don't need dino DNA, once we've found the genetic code for a dinosaur, then we can create one.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for taking to time to write this.
[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;20916187]I agree with this although how can we not discover what has not been explored yet?[/QUOTE]
That's one of the reasons why the Chaos Theory exists. We don't know what would happen but evidently dinosaurs went extinct for a REASON and humans should not try to muck around with things like this.
[QUOTE=w 1 z;20918456]That's one of the reasons why the Chaos Theory exists. We don't know what would happen but evidently dinosaurs went extinct for a REASON and humans should not try to muck around with things like this.[/QUOTE]
But given the choice, we will, it's in our nature to explore.
Creepy dino
That's not very scary. More like a 6 foot turkey.
There's a lot of dinosaur news lately.
I like it.
I liked it when dinosaurs looked less optimistic.
How velociraptors used to look:
[img]http://www.jplegacy.org/encyc/novel-dinosaurs/Velociraptor.jpg[/img]
How they look now:
[img]http://mrbarlow.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/velociraptor_bw.jpg[/img]
Lizard you deserve a title, Dinosaur king or something
These threads are so interesting
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