• Valve ‘Probably’ Done With Single-Player Games
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29438592]I'm surprised it doesn't frankly[/QUOTE] I think it's too complex an idea for a computer.
i'm going to have to agree with theputty about the artstyle i mean come on [img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/c/c0/Painted_Max%27s_Severed_Head_32CD32.png[/img] [img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/7/79/Painted_Demoman%27s_Fro_FF69B4.png[/img]
i mean if you want the computer to help the player, not just lead them straight to the solution. That would be difficult to acheive with the ai that valve has.
[QUOTE=Swilly;29438600]If they were to suddenly put something like a realistic gritty shotgun, then it would be wrecked. They make damn sure each new thing added keeps its cartoonish silly style. Hell all the equipment is meant to make the characters(They have those remember) even more crazy and silly because that's what the game is about. Insanity :v: The style was never wrecked because while its completely absurd, it fits the characters, their personas and their back stories.[/QUOTE] obivously doesn't matter anymore because you don't give a shit what they put into their game [editline]26th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Hamsterjuice;29438611]i'm going to have to agree with theputty about the artstyle i mean come on [img_thumb]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/c/c0/Painted_Max%27s_Severed_Head_32CD32.png[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/7/79/Painted_Demoman%27s_Fro_FF69B4.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] fuckin this
[QUOTE=Hamsterjuice;29438611]i'm going to have to agree with theputty about the artstyle i mean come on [img_thumb]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/c/c0/Painted_Max%27s_Severed_Head_32CD32.png[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/7/79/Painted_Demoman%27s_Fro_FF69B4.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I have a yellow spy camera beard.
[QUOTE=ThePutty;29438623]obivously doesn't matter anymore because you don't give a shit what they put into their game [editline]26th April 2011[/editline] fuckin this[/QUOTE] I do care, for fuck's sake. And the paint bucket bullshit is up to the user, not them.\ You miss the entirety of my post for some pretty colored hats(Which I never see something like that online anyway)
eat it bitch
1) tf2 is no longer the same game it was if you attempt to even argue against this, you're wrong; each class originally had one or two playstyles at maximum and utilized different techniques, but on the whole the game played like a fighting game more than anything else. every server now has devolved into a chaotic mix of dozens of different combinations of playstyles. it's fine if that's what you're into but it's [I]not [/I]what tf2 started as. the hats removed the minimalistic art style completely (again if you argue against this you are wrong so don't even try) - if that matters to you then it's fine if you stopped playing the game because of that, and if it doesn't bother you all the power to you. but to argue it didn't change anything is fucking incomprehensibly stupid, so don't try. 2.) i sorely hope that valve doesn't turn all single player campaigns into things like L4D - based around co-op with a singleplayer option. i have confidence that they won't, but that is a certain doomsday scenario that is possible. i haven't played the portal 2 coop yet, but the presence of anyone human in a video game is an immediate immersion killer; and again, if you argue against this, you're wrong.
[QUOTE=Lizard Of Guilt;29438492]They knee jerked so hard that their brain flew right out of the back of their head and is now flopping on the keyboard like a fish.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;29438641]1) tf2 is no longer the same game it was if you attempt to even argue against this, you're wrong; each class originally had one or two playstyles at maximum and utilized different techniques, but on the whole the game played like a fighting game more than anything else. every server now has devolved into a chaotic mix of dozens of different combinations of playstyles. it's fine if that's what you're into but it's [I]not [/I]what tf2 started as. the hats removed the minimalistic art style completely (again if you argue against this you are wrong so don't even try) - if that matters to you then it's fine if you stopped playing the game because of that, and if it doesn't bother you all the power to you. but to argue it didn't change anything is fucking incomprehensibly stupid, so don't try. 2.) i sorely hope that valve doesn't turn all single player campaigns into things like L4D - based around co-op with a singleplayer option. i have confidence that they won't, but that is a certain doomsday scenario that is possible. i haven't played the portal 2 coop yet, but the presence of anyone human in a video game is an immediate immersion killer; and again, if you argue against this, you're wrong.[/QUOTE] nope it's not the same game you have a choice go play on your own server faggot!! knee jerk arguement! you cannot disagree with brickinhead's post
How does TF2 have a minimalistic art style?
[b]The choice of how your character looks in games has been something people have bitched about for years, and now that they gave it to you in the form of weapons, hats, and etc, you have the gall to bitch about the fact you have fucking choices now? People get to decide how gaudy and how fucked up they want to look, I bet you just get a raging desire to hit people on the street that you don't like due to how they dress don't you? I don't get how you people can bitch about how gamers have choice now when that's what we've always fucking wanted. [/b] oh yeah dumb me trogdon and not even have a real argument to throw at me.
are you mistaking it with portal
i would like to say for the record, i'm still a huge fan of tf2 and still play it regularly but the artstyle that drew me into the game has been pretty messed up if valve weren't still supporting the game with new maps and weapons, with the occasional addition of hats, i wouldn't be playing it any more
Hat Fotress 2: Hat Simulation Portal 2: Hat Edition Left 4 Hat Hat-Life 2: Hatpisodes Hat Swarm Valv- Hat Seems good to me
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;29438641]1) tf2 is no longer the same game it was if you attempt to even argue against this, you're wrong; each class originally had one or two playstyles at maximum and utilized different techniques, but on the whole the game played like a fighting game more than anything else. every server now has devolved into a chaotic mix of dozens of different combinations of playstyles. it's fine if that's what you're into but it's [I]not [/I]what tf2 started as. the hats removed the minimalistic art style completely (again if you argue against this you are wrong so don't even try) - if that matters to you then it's fine if you stopped playing the game because of that, and if it doesn't bother you all the power to you. but to argue it didn't change anything is fucking incomprehensibly stupid, so don't try. 2.) i sorely hope that valve doesn't turn all single player campaigns into things like L4D - based around co-op with a singleplayer option. i have confidence that they won't, but that is a certain doomsday scenario that is possible. i haven't played the portal 2 coop yet, but the presence of anyone human in a video game is an immediate immersion killer; and again, if you argue against this, you're wrong.[/QUOTE] Who here has said it was? I don't care it's not the same game it was. It's a good game as it is now, and it wouldn't be as big as it is if it hadn't had those changes made.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;29438641] the presence of anyone human in a video game is an immediate immersion killer; and again, if you argue against this, you're wrong.[/QUOTE] That's probably why the only fun I had in L4D was dicking around. I guess that's most co-op games, except ones where there was never immersion in the first place (guitar hero, gauntlet dark legacy)
[QUOTE=ThePutty;29438655]nope it's not the same game you have a choice go play on your own server faggot!! knee jerk arguement![/QUOTE] No, he wrote out a real argument besides the fact he declared himself objectively right a bunch You've been screaming like a idiot about things you don't even seem to understand.
[QUOTE=Swilly;29438600]If they were to suddenly put something like a realistic gritty shotgun, then it would be wrecked. They make damn sure each new thing added keeps its cartoonish silly style. Hell all the equipment is meant to make the characters(They have those remember) even more crazy and silly because that's what the game is about. [B]Insanity [/B]:v:[/quote] bolded is how I know you don't know anything about tf2
[QUOTE=Lizard Of Guilt;29438660]How does TF2 have a minimalistic art style?[/QUOTE] It still has it, they just don't realize it. The minimalism was meant so that each class had its own specific silhouette. Players could easily identify a scout from an engineer or soldier.
i'd also like to add what hats did to the community that is all
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;29438680]bolded is how I know you don't know anything about tf2[/QUOTE] Right because you have an objective view of what things are
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;29438680]bolded is how I know you don't know anything about tf2[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbZOeGyd61E[/media] Orly?
[QUOTE=ThePutty;29438686]i'd also like to add what hats did to the community that is all[/QUOTE] hey if i can get a game off somebody for a virtual hat, i'm not going to complain
[QUOTE=Swilly;29438690][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbZOeGyd61E[/media] Orly?[/QUOTE] Okay, imagine that video. Suddenly, the demoman comes out of nowhere wearing a bright pink bunny hat and a sword and a shield and tries to kill the soldier this is TF2 of the now
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29438672]Who here has said it was? I don't care it's not the same game it was. It's a good game as it is now, and it wouldn't be as big as it is if it hadn't had those changes made.[/QUOTE] That's pretty much what kept the community alive was all the new gear and everything added.
[QUOTE=ThePutty;29438695]Okay, imagine that video. Suddenly, the demoman comes out of nowhere wearing a bright pink bunny hat and a sword and a shield and tries to kill the soldier this is TF2 of the now[/QUOTE] except not at all you fuck Those things are all choices for players to make and valve has nothing to do with the use of them besides making them and giving them to you people. fuck, I hope they remove all choices from all video games so your pussy can stop being a fucking knot. WAIT, NO I DON'T [editline]25th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Swilly;29438707]That's pretty much what kept the community alive was all the new gear and everything added.[/QUOTE] But who wants to acknowledge this? The community would be alive and well, but smaller and the game would be less successful clearly the best thing for everyone.
[QUOTE=ThePutty;29438695]Okay, imagine that video. Suddenly, the demoman comes out of nowhere wearing a bright pink bunny hat and a sword and a shield and tries to kill the soldier this is TF2 of the now[/QUOTE] Oh for fuck's sake. ITS NOT. I was just playing fucking earlier today! I did not see bright colors, hell, most people were using a combination of the default and unlockables LIKE THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. All I've seen different was a scout with the pitstop. You're generalizing gameplay ON FUCKING INSIDE JOKES!
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29438711]except not at all you fuck Those things are all choices for players to make and valve has nothing to do with the use of them besides making them and giving them to you people. fuck, I hope they remove all choices from all video games so your pussy can stop being a fucking knot. WAIT, NO I DON'T [editline]25th April 2011[/editline] But who wants to acknowledge this? The community would be alive and well, but smaller and the game would be less successful clearly the best thing for everyone.[/QUOTE] It's only a choice if you decide to use it or not. It's not a choice when other players use it, what are you gonna do? Ban them? Ask nicely to stop? Start your own server with stupid restrictions and don't ever join another one?
[QUOTE=ThePutty;29438721]It's only a choice if you decide to use it or not. It's not a choice when other players use it, what are you gonna do? Ban them? Ask nicely to stop?[/QUOTE] [b]the world does not revolve around you[/b] You do not have the right to not be offended you do not have the right to not see what you don't want to see, you do have the right to look the fuck away though.
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