[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;40866620]i'm talking about the fact that someone posted obvious flame bait and not getting banned for it in the first place.
it's like the mods would rather not ban the catalyst of a problematic situation but just to ban the fallout.
you guys know if you banned people who made those stupid baiting posts in the first place, people wouldn't do it.[/QUOTE]
Honestly you all should know better than to flame someone over a dumb post, and not expect repercussion for it. Prove him wrong instead of shitting the thread up.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;40866709]Jesus christ are you guys so fucking scared of this that you immediately personally insult someone? How pathetic that you abandon human decency for your fucking agenda.[/QUOTE]
scared?
i really want you to explain this one to me
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;40866706]dangers?
dont make us laugh
it has a chemical in it that inhibits cancer cell growth[/QUOTE]
Yep weed is a wonder drug, it does nothing wrong, good opinions.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;40866686]Good for him, he is an outlier, unless you can show me something that proves that people who smoke weed everyday aren't different in educational attainment or income.[/QUOTE]
So if you started to smoke weed would you turn into a lazy fuck or would you be a special outlier too?
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;40866714]Yep, it's all a conspiracy. Okay.
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[url]http://www.ukcia.org/research/young/AdolescentCannabisUseEducationalAttainment.pdf[/url]
"Conclusion: Cross-sectional and longitudinal research indi- cates that young people who use cannabis are at
increased risk of poor school performance and
reduced educational attainment. The evidence
from longitudinal studies suggests that some
component of these associations arises because
the risk factors that predispose young people to
cannabis use overlap with those factors that inde- pendently predict poor educational attainment. However, not all of the association between early
cannabis use and reduced educational attain- ment can be explained by the effects of common
or correlated risk factors. In particular, there is evidence that early cannabis use independently
increases the risks of early school leaving."[/QUOTE]
No shit. You're not supposed to let kids smoke it. It needs to be taxed and regulated to anyone 21 and older just like alcohol.
[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;40866734]So if you started to smoke weed would you turn into a lazy fuck or would you be a special outlier too?[/QUOTE]
Could be, that's up to whether I'm motivated enough.
Please tell me where I said "it will certainly turn you into a lazy fuck", otherwise stop misrepresenting me.
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[QUOTE=MarstunoM;40866747]No shit. You're not supposed to let kids smoke it. It needs to be taxed and regulated to anyone 21 and older just like alcohol.[/QUOTE]
Okay but wtf do you think most of pot users are? And for that matter, what most people in this thread are? Children with educational requirements (college/uni included), is the majority of them.
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;40866728]scared?
i really want you to explain this one to me[/QUOTE]
obviously anyone who doesn't browse the internet for drug 'facts' in preparation for condescending argument smokes 100 joints a day and couldn't ever go a day without it
[QUOTE=innerfire34;40866757]obviously anyone who doesn't browse the internet for drug 'facts' in preparation for condescending argument smokes 100 joints a day and couldn't ever go a day without it[/QUOTE]
Yes arguing a point that I believe in and giving you sources and citations when I'm asked makes me condescending.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;40866764]Yes arguing a point that I believe in and giving you sources and citations when I'm asked makes me condescending.[/QUOTE]
no, being condescending makes you condescending
you are not a pinpoint of objectivity in a sea of worthless opinions
you know less than you think
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;40866748]Could be, that's up to whether I'm motivated enough.
Please tell me where I said "it will certainly turn you into a lazy fuck", otherwise stop misrepresenting me.
[/QUOTE]
You're implying that it probably will, which perhaps is because you're unmotivated? I don't see how weed is a demotivator. Lazy people will still be lazy and weed shouldn't be used as a scapegoat.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;40866727]Honestly you all should know better than to flame someone over a dumb post, and not expect repercussion for it. Prove him wrong instead of shitting the thread up.[/QUOTE]
you're blowing smoke up my ass dude.
i asked about the baiters, not the flamers.
it does make sense though. don't ban the baiters who are the actual problem, just ban the flamers. that way the argument can still continue with other people because the last batch got banned. yet the troll is still baiting away and you mods are hovering over him banning everyone who calls him an idiot FOR BEING AN IDIOT.
god it sounds like you favor the trolls or something.
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So they smoked weed at some point in their life and then went on to become successful. Sorry, but I'm not seeing the connection. For all you know, they could have smoked it once and never touched it again in their life. Which doesn't exactly help your point since weed would have had no impact on their life.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;40866748]Okay but wtf do you think most of pot users are? And for that matter, what most people in this thread are? Children with educational requirements (college/uni included), is the majority of them.[/QUOTE]
College/university are old enough that it won't affect their learning capacity. It's only in the developing mind that it can cause slight problems. That being said, every age group smokes weed.
[QUOTE=innerfire34;40866775]no, being condescending makes you condescending
you are not a pinpoint of objectivity in a sea of worthless opinions
you know less than you think[/QUOTE]
Jesus christ, this is sad to watch, fuck human deceny and politeness, I have to defend weed! Doesn't that seem a little worrying that, of all the positions to have on an argument, you have one of the most irrational and aggressive of them?
And you're not being condescending yourself by saying this to me? You think you can judge the facts that I posted that are based on statistics n shit just because it doesn't fit with YOUR belief? Why is YOUR belief so absolutely right that it can transcend opposition for some reason?
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;40866798]you're blowing smoke up my ass dude.
i asked about the baiters, not the flamers.
it does make sense though. don't ban the baiters who are the actual problem, just ban the flamers. that way the argument can still continue with other people because the last batch got banned. yet the troll is still baiting away and you mods are hovering over him banning everyone who calls him an idiot FOR BEING AN IDIOT.[/QUOTE]
i don't think mods get to make personal decisions like that too often anymore
i mean, deciding that someone who believes in something is dumb enough to be banworthy
[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;40866788]You're implying that it probably will, which perhaps is because you're unmotivated? I don't see how weed is a demotivator. Lazy people will still be lazy and weed shouldn't be used as a scapegoat.[/QUOTE]
No, I'm saying it probably will because most people in this world aren't very successful, ambition, or motivated. But okay, another attempt at a personal attack is cute.
[QUOTE=MarstunoM;40866809]That being said, every age group smokes weed.[/QUOTE]
my newborn baby came out with a blunt in his mouth
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blowin weed smoke out the vag
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;40866764]Yes arguing a point that I believe in and giving you sources and citations when I'm asked makes me condescending.[/QUOTE]
you offered one source. one source does not prove your point. one source could be biased.
the issue with the quote you made of the source is that these are correlations, and correlation does not mean causation. there are other possible outside factors to be accounted for.
[QUOTE=MarstunoM;40866809]College/university are old enough that it won't affect their learning capacity. It's only in the developing mind that it can cause slight problems. That being said, every age group smokes weed.[/QUOTE]
Oh and it doesn't make people lazy in any form? You mean the drug that is well known to cause laziness in people? Okay, I'm done arguing, this is pointless in every single way I know things can be pointless.
And no, I'm not an idiot for disagreeing with you, I'm not an ignorant child, I'm not unmotivated or lazy, I just disagree with your opinion and the way you interpret facts.
[editline]1st June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=joes33431;40866836]you offered one source. one source does not prove your point. one source could be biased.
the issue with the quote you made of the source is that these are correlations, and correlation does not mean causation. there are other possible outside factors to be accounted for.[/QUOTE]
You must know that no matter what I post you guys will always make excuses for why it doesn't work.
[QUOTE=innerfire34;40866822]i don't think mods get to make personal decisions like that too often anymore
i mean, deciding that someone who believes in something is dumb enough to be banworthy[/QUOTE]
it's the obvious baiting aspect of the post itself. go back and read it
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;40866840]You must know that no matter what I post you guys will always make excuses for why it doesn't work.[/QUOTE]
would you quit it with your persecution complex and make a cogent argument? stop derailing the discussion from the topic at hand.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;40866840]Oh and it doesn't make people lazy in any form? You mean the drug that is well known to cause laziness in people? Okay, I'm done arguing, this is pointless in every single way I know things can be pointless.
And no, I'm not an idiot for disagreeing with you, I'm not an ignorant child, I'm not unmotivated or lazy, I just disagree with your opinion and the way you interpret facts.
[editline]1st June 2013[/editline]
You must know that no matter what I post you guys will always make excuses for why it doesn't work.[/QUOTE]
with such strong facts as "well known to cause" how could we even argue?
[QUOTE=joes33431;40866865]would you quit it with your persecution complex and make a cogent argument? stop distracting from the topic at hand.[/QUOTE]
Uh, I already have? I've posted sources, I've shown my argument to be very coherent and adhering with factual evidence. My last line that I would need to beat is your guys's drawn conclusion, and I can't really do anything against something heavily ingrained within yourself.
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;40866854]it's the obvious baiting aspect of the post itself. go back and read it[/QUOTE]
Like it's your job to decide that. Back on topic, thanks.
posting sources isn't linking to shit from websites named some shit like "THE ROAD TO QUITTING"
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;40866840]Oh and it doesn't make people lazy in any form? You mean the drug that is well known to cause laziness in people? Okay, I'm done arguing, this is pointless in every single way I know things can be pointless.
And no, I'm not an idiot for disagreeing with you, I'm not an ignorant child, I'm not unmotivated or lazy, I just disagree with your opinion and the way you interpret facts.[/QUOTE]
No, it doesn't make people lazy. Perhaps people who were already lazy have a tendency to partake, but that's neither here nor there.
You're not an idiot for disagreeing, but I must say you are ignorant of this topic.
[QUOTE=MarstunoM;40866897]No, it doesn't make people lazy. Perhaps people who were already lazy have a tendency to partake, but that's neither here nor there.
You're not an idiot for disagreeing, but I must say you are ignorant of this topic.[/QUOTE]
that's a personal attack, because he is totally objective and more educated than us on something he has no interest in
[QUOTE=innerfire34;40866871]with such strong facts as "well known to cause" how could we even argue?[/QUOTE]
Okay here we go:
[url]http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/blnida050110.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14672250[/url]
[url]http://www.csam-asam.org/adverse-effects-marijuana-healthcare-professionals[/url] (even mentions my concept of "pushing people that little bit over to being failures" [ctrl + f 'school failure'])
[url]http://www.nber.org/reporter/winter05/pacula.html[/url]
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Now tell me how they're all wrong please, I can't wait for you to shit on my efforts just because I don't conform to your thought process.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;40866881]Uh, I already have? I've posted sources, I've shown my argument to be very coherent and adhering with factual evidence. My last line that I would need to beat is your guys's drawn conclusion, and I can't really do anything against something heavily ingrained within yourself.[/QUOTE]
you haven't been making an argument; you said that 'there were negative effects I swear guys' and then you posted [I]one single source[/I] that supported your claim in ways that are not [I]directly shown to be caused by cannabis[/I].
you are the one who is pretending that everyone else is unreasonable. if you want to engage in a rational debate, then you have to defend your points and address peoples' criticisms, instead of moaning on with this 'oh no everyone here is so irrational and is ignoring facts because they have a different opinion than i do and are willing to criticize the things that i pose as argument' bullshit.
[QUOTE=MarstunoM;40866897]No, it doesn't make people lazy. Perhaps people who were already lazy have a tendency to partake, but that's neither here nor there.
You're not an idiot for disagreeing, but I must say you are ignorant of this topic.[/QUOTE]
Ignorant how? I've shown more knowledge into this topic than any of you guys, I've posted many sources that all show what I'm saying.
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